India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[IndianHawk]

 

[IndianHawk]

 

[Gandaberunda]

This hits hard!

 

[ARVION]

Chinese bullshit.

Chinese Quality No 1

 

[IndianHawk]

This hits hard!

Yup that we why have 45 k soldiers against 35k chinkies in laddakh so that we can all surrender. Lmao.

 

[garg_bharat]

Subsonic cruise missiles are useless against us if they are not stealthy. Our air defense can shoot them all day long.

We will know once we get there. At the moment lets take the threat seriously.

 

[kaboom!]

This hits hard!

Sounds more like deluded ramblings of a frail mind to me...

 

[garg_bharat]

Lol 45k soldiers what they're up to? To capture f4-f8 or push chene out from F4? These are deployed to hold chene aggression from entering F3. That typically means F4 is lost which means surrendered!

Join army and fight. That is a better option.

 

[here2where]

What is this current strategic autonomy we have that enables China to nibble and get away with it, kill our soldiers and isn't heavily punished, Pakis bomb us but we don't blow their country to smithereens, and GoI forces soldiers to not fire bullets even when they are being killed?

Is that the strategic autonomy we are nurturing and afraid of losing?

Our traditional NAM kool-aid prevents taking sides in any conflict. This no-taking-sides approach is also because of our ambition of becoming a 'great power' on our own. It will be long hard upward climb no doubt.

Choice is between maintaining independent foreign policy and security decision making versus becoming a satellite/colony to a super power with all the attached privileges and benefits. Considering our geographical and geo-political realities, it appears to be a tough choice on the surface. But our long term aspirations dictates that we don't get into a bear-hug and become a pawn/subservient slave to the master .

There are short-term struggles in maintaing true independence versus long term respect and benefits.

Its a trade off best left to experts and strategists.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

Some of the Close in weapon systems (or CIWS) under development or active

SEA ORYX

The Sea Oryx (Chinese: 海劍羚飛彈系統) is an indigenous lightweight, infrared homing short-range air defense system developed for the Republic of China (Taiwan) Navy. Based on the TC-1L surface-to-air missile, it is designed for defending against anti-ship missiles, helicopters, and low flying fixed-wing jet airplanes.

9M337 SOSNA-R

The 9M337 Sosna-R (Pine) (SA-24) is a Russian radar and laser-guided supersonic (Mach 4) two-stage missile. It is used in Sosna-R short range air defense missile system designed to protect military units from air attacks in all types of combat situations, including during march.

AN/SEQ-3 Laser Weapon System

The Laser Weapon System (LaWS) aboard USS Ponce.

The AN/SEQ-3 Laser Weapon System or XN-1 LaWS is a laser weapon developed by the United States Navy. The weapon was installed on USS Ponce for field testing in 2014. In December 2014, the United States Navy reported that the LaWS system worked perfectly against low-end asymmetric threats, and that the commander of the Ponce is authorized to use the system as a defensive weapon.

 

[vineet23]

Lol 45k soldiers what they're up to? To capture f4-f8 or push chene out from F4? These are deployed to hold chene aggression from entering F3. That typically means F4 is lost which means surrendered!

if you understand one basic point that we are in a state of war and govt is working on it behind the scenes.it is just that govt is not pushing the narrative in media so that panic does not set in. war is always long-drawn affairs and the side which shows tactical adaptability is likely to come out as a winner.it is like a game of chess where ones take some pieces to moves backward to create new attack positions. you can ask questions to govt in the 2024 election till that time, wait for govt to handle the situation. do not expect instant results as this may create tactical mistakes.

 

[garg_bharat]

Our traditional NAM kool-aid prevents taking sides in any conflict. This no-taking-sides approach is also because of our ambition of becoming a 'great power' on our own. It will be long hard upward climb no doubt.

Choice is between maintaining independent foreign policy and security decision making versus becoming a satellite/colony to a super power with all the attached privileges and benefits. Considering our geographical and geo-political realities, it appears to be a tough choice on the surface. But our long term aspirations dictates that we don't get into a bear-hug and become a pawn/subservient slave to the master .

There are short-term struggles in maintaing true independence versus long term respect and benefits.

Its a trade off best left to experts and strategists.

I think one big dent and non-aligned policy will get flying out the door.

Non-aligned movement is dead. India will need allies even in a multi-polar world. World has changed.

 

[AmitG]

The Defence ministry usedd Zoom to communicate between the DM and CDS and armed forces??? Seriously???

 

[garg_bharat]

See I was a big supporter of maintaining relations with Russia. Russia has been far more friendly to India than many Western countries. However Indian political and business class are too pro-West. So India has chosen a side by default. Obviously Russia cannot help beyond a point.

Now India will have to go begging to the West. I would say be ready to eat your ego as nation always comes first.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

The Defence ministry usedd Zoom to communicate between the DM and CDS and armed forces??? Seriously???

Any proof?

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

The Defence ministry usedd Zoom to communicate between the DM and CDS and armed forces??? Seriously???

Zoom is USA made app but yes made by amrican chini

While google meet has certain disadvantages

 

[JBH22]

See I was a big supporter of maintaining relations with Russia. Russia has been far more friendly to India than many Western countries. However Indian political and business class are too pro-West. So India has chosen a side by default. Obviously Russia cannot help beyond a point.

Now India will have to go begging to the West. I would say be ready to eat your ego as nation always comes first.

One thing is for sure India cannot produce all its requirements and therefore it will have to import. Now despite all the hype it cannot buy western kit due to high price to equip a huge force. Suppose we take IAF requirement of 42squadrons, even France has only 200 odd Rafale. Now we lower budget we cannot match the numbers we want.

Therefore, Russian imports will continue and it also helps to prevent tilt to our adversaries.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

China recruits MMA fighters after deadly ‘hand-to-hand’ fighting with India

China recruits MMA fighters after deadly ‘hand-to-hand’ fighting with India

CHINA has recruited a squad of MMA (mixed martial arts) fighters into its border militia ranks, according to its state media.

www.express.co.uk

Pound-For-Pound Top 10 Indian MMA Fighters

Pound-For-Pound Top 10 Indian MMA Fighters – Asian Persuasion MMA

We here at Asian Persuasion MMA look at the top ten pound-for-pound Indian MMA fighters, and rank them based on their recent performances

apmma.net

 

[amit204]

Lol 45k soldiers what they're up to? To capture f4-f8 or push chene out from F4? These are deployed to hold chene aggression from entering F3. That typically means F4 is lost which means surrendered!

Game is not event started and you declare the winner. How short sighted are you ?

 

[amit204]

See I was a big supporter of maintaining relations with Russia. Russia has been far more friendly to India than many Western countries. However Indian political and business class are too pro-West. So India has chosen a side by default. Obviously Russia cannot help beyond a point.

Now India will have to go begging to the West. I would say be ready to eat your ego as nation always comes first.

1. Ditching Russia was a good move. lately they started misusing India reliance on russia and were over charging the quote 10x, e.g Cost of 5th gen.
2. All the submarine lease form Russia were too expensive.
3.Russia is on verge of backruptcy.

With time you need to move on and ditch your old friends since they started to misuse the friendship. No point of doing blame game.

1. US/EU is giving latest tech to India. In most of tech US is much advance than Russia except in few cases.