India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[scatterStorm]

Meanwhile the Tibetan Blunder ... Nailed it.

 

[ezsasa]

we have heard this argument before, but what if PLA don’t send ground force and instead use missiles as their first wave?

 

[Mikesingh]

Nope this is their usual statement which they keep repeating again and again. It has no substance. China doesn't have enough amphibious capability to land on Taiwan. And if Taiwan is armed to teeth.

Bullshite of the highest order! Chinese Generals who have paid their way through the ranks to become generals and are blessed with just a couple brain cells will spew hot air like this mut has just done. I didn't know Afghan weed was available in Beijing too.

 

[ladder]

we have heard this argument before, but what if PLA don’t send ground force and instead use missiles as their first wave?

Topography of Galwan Valley.

Estimate the lateral distance missed with even 5-10m CEP

 

[IndianHawk]

Meanwhile the Tibetan Blunder ... Nailed it.

What would west do about tibet? Once British empire gone it was only India which was able to interfere in tibet with large army. There was no way for anybody else to get large army there. West would have gladly joined India if we tried to stop china at Lhasa in 1959 but nehru was pacifist idiot who were blinded by Chinese and west chose to deal with pragmatic china rather than naive idealistic India later.

 

[IndianHawk]

we have heard this argument before, but what if PLA don’t send ground force and instead use missiles as their first wave?

In hilly terrain missile won't work accurately. And in the end to hold territory they will have to place men and establish long supply lines . Unless we don't fight back like nehru there is no way in hell that entire chinese Armada won't be slaughtered like chicken.

Our supplies and men will pour in from Himachal , uttarakhand and UP. Bihar and Bengal to Sikkim and Assam to arunachal.

Chinese nearest base is 800km away in hotan and there supply and men will come from 2000km away!

 

[Kumata]

BC This thread badly needs a cleanup... had a headache understanding what is being discussed...

 

[scatterStorm]

In hilly terrain missile won't work accurately. And in the end to hold territory they will have to place men and establish long supply lines . Unless we don't fight back like nehru there is no way in hell that entire chinese Armada won't be slaughtered like chicken.

Our supplies and men will pour in from Himachal , uttarakhand and UP. Bihar and Bengal to Sikkim and Assam to arunachal.

Chinese nearest base is 800km away in hotan and there supply and men will come from 2000km away!

That's true, however they may park boots. We might be into the impression they will not be able to amass boots in winter, but Tibet is still there. No to mention Nepal these days.

 

[ezsasa]

A comparison of Indian and Chinese deployment in the Himalayas shows not much difference between the two countries, in terms of manpower or equipment @SuryaGangadhar6

 

[Kumata]

You really think BSF will be enough....
Are you competing for the post of DG BSF ? Get ready. The present DG BSF is also DG ITBP and posts likely to get vacated .

you seem to be another BN Mallik in making?? ......

DG won't fight on ground ... I am hoping you know this and how does it matter.... Ignorning the next one ... but beware...

If you don't know the capabilities of BSF on west side than perhaps you can seal your mouth and learn to ignore....

 

[ezsasa]

In hilly terrain missile won't work accurately. And in the end to hold territory they will have to place men and establish long supply lines . Unless we don't fight back like nehru there is no way in hell that entire chinese Armada won't be slaughtered like chicken.

Our supplies and men will pour in from Himachal , uttarakhand and UP. Bihar and Bengal to Sikkim and Assam to arunachal.

Chinese nearest base is 800km away in hotan and there supply and men will come from 2000km away!

what if they use missiles for causing attrition? For causing attrition, missiles need not be accurate, they just need to be near the vicinity of the bases & supply lines.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

The sheer force of Indian Youtube view numbers.
We don't need to create a propaganda. Propagandas will be created for us.

 

[Spindrift]

what if they use missiles for causing attrition? For causing attrition, missiles need not be accurate, they just need to be near the vicinity of the bases & supply lines.

I do believe that we do have missiles. And secondly, one point to consider is that due to the one child policy most of the Chinese soldier are the only child and in a lot of cases that one soldier has at least 4 to 6 dependents so a war would have a very heavy social cost on the CCP and traditionally in Chinese culture (since ancient times), if a family had only one son he was exempt from going to war or joining the army and besides that like us or the Americans the Chinese people are not used to body bags coming back home from the front. In my opinion the CCP can't fight a respectable for at least another 20 to 30 years.

 

[AMCA]

Su-30 mki of indian airforce in Laddakh.
Wangchuk ji confirming that IAF fighters were flying one hour ago. In latest video.

 

[ezsasa]

I do believe that we do have missiles. And secondly, one point to consider is that due to the one child policy most of the Chinese soldier are the only child and in a lot of cases that one soldier has at least 4 to 6 dependents so a war would have a very heavy social cost on the CCP and traditionally in Chinese culture (since ancient times), if a family had only one son he was exempt from going to war or joining the army and besides that like us or the Americans the Chinese people are not used to body bags coming back home from the front. In my opinion the CCP can't fight a respectable for at least another 20 to 30 years.

Maybe so, but I don’t think CCP cares about social cost of their actions.

 

[Mikesingh]

In hilly terrain missile won't work accurately. And in the end to hold territory they will have to place men and establish long supply lines . Unless we don't fight back like nehru there is no way in hell that entire chinese Armada won't be slaughtered like chicken.

Our supplies and men will pour in from Himachal , uttarakhand and UP. Bihar and Bengal to Sikkim and Assam to arunachal.

Chinese nearest base is 800km away in hotan and there supply and men will come from 2000km away!

Not only that, the accuracy of SR missiles and artillery is suspect in high altitude areas in the rarefied atmosphere.

Secondly, the Chinese have vulnerable bridges and choke points along their lines of communication. Once destroyed/disrupted, they have absolutely no way to reinforce their troops and failure of logistics support will spell disaster. Imagine a couple of Chinese divisions deployed on the mountains without supplies. One div needs approx 40 tons of supplies per day including rations, water, ammo, spares and so on. Without this they will be sitting ducks after the third day - like up shit creek without a paddle. Air transport support would need a favourable air situation over the are which is impossible.

So it's no point just firing off missiles and arty without follow up. You need boots on the ground to capture and hold territory.

The Chinese keep mentioning that in 1962 they withdrew as they just 'wanted to teach India a lesson' is a load of bull! Who withdraws after losing so many troops and spending millions? To cut a long story short, they withdrew because their logistics collapsed. Chinese troops were dying due to starvation, dehydration and disease. But that story for another thread. Or read, 'The snow Of The Himalayas' a true account of the 62 war authored by two Chinese military historians or extracts of the Henderson Brooks report leaked by Neville Maxwell in March 2014.

 

[Spindrift]

Maybe so, but I don’t think CCP cares about social cost of their actions.

Well, as per some of the observers of the CCP, one of the reasons for the CCP Virus cover up was the social stability\cost (saw that on China Uncensored). So, I think they do give social stability\cost some importance.

 

[IndianHawk]

"Getting Rid Of My Made-In-China Phone": Man Who Inspired "3 Idiots"

Innovator Sonam Wangchuk has urged people of India to boycott "Made in China" in response to Chinese aggression at the border in Ladakh over the past few weeks. "Give up all Chinese software in a week, all Chinese hardware in a year," said the man who inspired the character "Phunsuk Wangdu" in...

www.ndtv.com

This great man is giving up on Chinese mobile . Hopefully he will inspire indians to do the same.

Buy fucking Samsung or something.

 

[another_armchair]

"Getting Rid Of My Made-In-China Phone": Man Who Inspired "3 Idiots"

Innovator Sonam Wangchuk has urged people of India to boycott "Made in China" in response to Chinese aggression at the border in Ladakh over the past few weeks. "Give up all Chinese software in a week, all Chinese hardware in a year," said the man who inspired the character "Phunsuk Wangdu" in...

www.ndtv.com

This great man is giving up on Chinese mobile . Hopefully he will inspire indians to do the same.

Buy fucking Samsung or something.

Most of Nokia phones are Made in India, are reasonably durable, pack essential features and don't cost a bomb.

 

[ladder]

This great man is giving up on Chinese mobile . Hopefully he will inspire indians to do the same.

Buy fucking Samsung or something.

I am sorry to say this, but in my social circle I always say, Indian boycott lasts till the next flash sale of Chinese flagship phone.
Hope this changes.