India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Niks_12]

And that is 1 reason why India isn’t exposing them either. If we do and it seriously causes loss of face for the Chicoms, there is no backing down (because it’s an existential threat for people heading CCP and they will do whatever they can to regain their pride). The calculation from GOI in all of these is that there is still a chance for de-escalation (hence statements such as we don’t want war par we are ready etc.) Even today’s statement by IAF Chief was in similar lines. It’s just to keep the option of de-escalation open.

 

[ataru09]

Okay looks like I am only one using non Chinese brand phone or I am wrong ?

Me too bro. Never bought a Chinese phone.

 

[Hellfire]

Unlike you or I, General Singh is an Union Minister so he would be privy to more information than us.

True.

I shall keep quiet beyond this point. A point always comes beyond which it is best to be mum, mine has come.

Anyways, I have posted a reply to Coldhearted Aviator on how the estimates have been made. Do go through it. If you find some sense in it, then you may perhaps understand what he is saying and what I am saying, are slightly different in the way it is said yet same.

 

[ezsasa]

Accepting losses and seeming weak is not something commie ideology will permit. It’s all about looking perfect and strong. That’s why they spend so much effort in coloring their skies extra blue, their land extra green in official photos.

XI is already fighting off rivals baying for his blood and wants to look immortal - the perfect strong leader. Setbacks aren’t acceptable. What do you think will happen if an actual defeat comes out.

Again that’s why loss of face is so important for them. Losses gaye bhand mein, they will repeat this again and again just to look strong and save their loss of face/pride.

was just about to post on the same thing...

One thing india can do and CCP can't, is accepting India took a beating if it happens and CCP cannot afford to it.
It's upto security establishment to use this to our benefit.

 

[another_armchair]

Import lobby MoD lives to days like these to import more weapons...

Can you please list out our options?

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

Someday we will get exactly what had happened on 15,16,17 June from Survivor's account in form of film or web series or book

The BRAVEHEARTS who went first and the AVENGERS who went second SALUTE YOU

 

[IndiaRising]

Import lobby MoD lives to days like these to import more weapons...

They still can’t put an order for 83 Mk1A but this import chutyapa will keep going on

 

[IndiaRising]

Someday we will get exactly what had happened on 15,16,17 June from Survivor's account in form of film or web series or book

The BRAVEHEARTS who went first and the AVENGERS who went second SALUTE YOU

wait for next investiture ceremony. I’m sure many medals will be given to the
Boys of 16 bihar

 

[Hellfire]

Isnt that related to the neck snapping and spine breaking count by Ghatak in which they say 19 or 18 were killed in the initial assault of 60 indian ghataks and the rest were killed in the second assault?

Sir.

Phase 1 had CO walk up. The team was attacked and we know what happened. As you are aware, the terrain there as also the relatively uphill location of the Chinese allowed them an upper hand. We came off worse in it.

In Phase 2, reinforced Indian contingent reached to take on reinforcing PLA at the point. This is where the Biharis and the associated troops exacted a tremendous toll.

There was a gap between the two. It was not as if two waves came at the same time. That resulted in decimation of the Chinese position, which is now coming into the public domain openly.


EDIT: This was night, and the terrain altitude mixture. Times are longer.

 

[Gandaberunda]

They still can’t put an order for 83 Mk1A but this import chutyapa will keep going on

In Rafale thread there is news that IAF as asked for additional Rafales 36+8 + 36 total 80 by 2026

 

[ezsasa]

One question that is bothering me since the Babu point incident.

How come PLA decided to stick to old agreements of not using firearms, but at the same time decided to use fatal weapons? why the compulsion on their part? they are world renowned for breaking the rules, but why did they decide to stick to this old agreement?

 

[Hellfire]

Cry baby... Zu 23 over Pengang tso..

Strange you are.

Evasive and deflective, just like that higher than mountain pay grade knowing-everything-govt-of-india-is-planning.

Grow up. Certain OLQs must still remain.

 

[Niks_12]

my sources
I told you about the chinese pow's way before
But its your choice to believe me or not

Bhai tere Mun mein ghee, shakkar, pede, laddoos and whatever sweets you like.

 

[Flint]

One question that is bothering me since the Babu point incident.

How come PLA decided to stick to old agreements of not using firearms, but at the same time decided to use fatal weapons? why the compulsion on their part? they are world renowned for breaking the rules, but why did they decide to stick to this old agreement?

probably didn't want to escalate the situation into a shooting war.

 

[Hellfire]

One question that is bothering me since the Babu point incident.

How come PLA decided to stick to old agreements of not using firearms, but at the same time decided to use fatal weapons? why the compulsion on their part? they are world renowned for breaking the rules, but why did they decide to stick to this old agreement?

That is why have been repeating DHOLA REDUX. Instigation.

They are trying to make us fire the first shot at them this time.

 

[IndiaRising]

In Rafale thread there is news that IAF as asked for additional Rafales 36+8 + 36 total 80 by 2026

that was always going to happen and is required to keep edge over both pakis and cheenis, but we also need to look at developing quantitative edge over enemies

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Sir.

Phase 1 had CO walk up. The team was attacked and we know what happened. As you are aware, the terrain there as also the relatively uphill location of the Chinese allowed them an upper hand. We came off worse in it.

In Phase 2, reinforced Indian contingent reached to take on reinforcing PLA at the point. This is where the Biharis and the associated troops exacted a tremendous toll.

There was a gap between the two. It was not as if two waves came at the same time. That resulted in decimation of the Chinese position, which is now coming into the public domain openly.

Sir,

Phase 1-3 indians killed?

Phase 2- Indians killed 19 PLA?I dont know how many Indians killed?

Phase 3-How many killed both sides?

 

[Sehwag213]

One question that is bothering me since the Babu point incident.

How come PLA decided to stick to old agreements of not using firearms, but at the same time decided to use fatal weapons? why the compulsion on their part? they are world renowned for breaking the rules, but why did they decide to stick to this old agreement?

They miscalculated us. They thought we would take a beating and fold up. But this didn't happen. It was a way of intimidating us.

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

Sir.

Phase 1 had CO walk up. The team was attacked and we know what happened. As you are aware, the terrain there as also the relatively uphill location of the Chinese allowed them an upper hand. We came off worse in it.

In Phase 2, reinforced Indian contingent reached to take on reinforcing PLA at the point. This is where the Biharis and the associated troops exacted a tremendous toll.

There was a gap between the two. It was not as if two waves came at the same time. That resulted in decimation of the Chinese position, which is now coming into the public domain openly.

So the hopeless question arises will this scenario of second wave is what making India go for the words like de escalation as it feels China will try to get even at her time and choice of place

Your view on it
I know you have said AP is hot and no media is covering

 

[Gandaberunda]

One question that is bothering me since the Babu point incident.

How come PLA decided to stick to old agreements of not using firearms, but at the same time decided to use fatal weapons? why the compulsion on their part? they are world renowned for breaking the rules, but why did they decide to stick to this old agreement?

Because they under estimated our fight back! They ambushed our troops with primitive weapons and were reinforcing to hold on salami slicing but Ghathaks and Avengers came out of syllabus and reigned terror on them.
Salami slicing gone wrong! They messed up badly