India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Lancer]

Sir, unambiguity is foremost. Especially in a fluid situation with conflict. Clear concise words should be used everytime.

This Siachen ambguity is still used till this day to conitune with rona dhona and marking territory as disputed.

Sure, but don't discount all of "our own" people who have a direct stake and interest in muddying the waters.

The harsh (for some) truth is this: it's one thing to claim land, and another to have an active physical presence or constant patrolling there. The land currently encroached upon is essentially No Man's Land and we haven't had control of it in a very long time, to the point where the Chinese even built a road on it. When PM said territory, it should have been clear to most that he meant none of the territory which we currently hold - because when it comes to claims, our claims stretch all the way across PoJK and Aksai Chin. He meant, no new land has been lost. But still, extra clarity never hurts, especially in a situation like this, and I've always been a strong proponent that BJP should pick someone intelligent and articulate in English to carry out daily press briefings - both in peacetime, and even more so during conflict situations.

However while I can understand some common folks who don't do their own research being confused - there's truly no excuse for politicians, "experts", newspeople etc to be "confused" (though most are very likely doing it to intentionally obfuscate and put Modi and BJP in a spot). With their platforms, comes a certain amount of responsibility and obligation to the nation as well.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Weapons that could have saved our ass from embarrassment

Lch
MTA
IMRH
Tejas
Dhanush
Rudra
LUH
AK 203
Sig 716

 

[IndianHawk]

Now since modi said there is no incursion.. Indian LAC claim came down from 0-75 to 0-50. China hasn't done so.. so Chinese claim is still 100-25 for LAC. Mutually acceptable solution is somewhere around 37 on the graph instead of 50

Nope our claim is still 100. Lac has nothing do with claim of any side. Lac is just the present situation.

 

[porky_kicker]

Weapons that could have saved our ass from embarrassment

Lch
MTA
IMRH
Tejas
Dhanush
Rudra
LUH
AK 203
Sig 716

Bhai sabse important ammunition list karna bhul gaye ape

In the current situation am really worried on the ammo front

 

[another_armchair]

Here's a 'clarification'.

Much needed. Knew a clarification would come given its interpretation.

This explains it all - "What is Indian territory is clear from the map of India."

 

[vineet23]

Indo China war in 1962 was fought in Sept Oct window. I think future clashes will occur in this time frame as well.

force them till January. no cease-fire. they will lose to general winter+ indian army

 

[IndianHawk]

force them till January. no cease-fire. they will lose to general winter+ indian army

They might hold up for winter. Afterall we haven't left siachin since 1984 . Chinese are technically capable of putting up in winter.

We will have to throw them out with force.

 

[maomao]

Nope our claim is still 100. Lac has nothing do with claim of any side. Lac is just the present situation.

Our claim is whole of Tibet. Gosthana is just a stepping stone. Time to think like winners and not like whiny kids off the block.

 

[IndianHawk]

Our claim is whole of Tibet. Gosthana is just a stepping stone. Time to think like winners and not like whiny kids off the block.

True unless tibet is solved India china will keep fighting.
At the very least we must turn tibet into protectorate like Bhutan .

 

[vineet23]

their attack coincided exactly with the Cuban missile crisis .

I think they will hit us when the monsoon reaches Himachal Pradesh , uttarakhand , arunachal pradesh areas .

this will be next week to before september

Like another poster from Himachal said , there will be land slides , roads will be washed out , long line of army conveys stopped . The monsoon rain will hit there next week .

it is prudent to use air force and navy in malacca straits in this scenerio

 

[BangaliBabu]

Indian Army is recruited based on average recruitable male population of a state. It is not that Bengalis are not there in the Army. Yes There is no Bangal Regiment and there never was. Bengal army meant Army of Bengal Presidency.

Bengalies are there as drivers, cooks, mechanics, in Corps of Ordinnces and mostly in Medical corps and babus. Lots of Bengali officers..

Bengalis do not make good soldiers, they make good generals.

so the Armed Forces is a fish market?? What do you mean by good generals and not good soldiers...... Bengalees get double promotion for service to this nation or what?

 

[asingha94]

 

[ezsasa]

force them till January. no cease-fire. they will lose to general winter+ indian army

From which area?
if it is galwan that's being discussed, there is a reason they don't build temporary structures like us, they build permanent structures. and galwan valley is 40 km long with two PLA bases 5 km apart near the opening on their side of the valley.

They may no occupy the ridges during the winter, but they will occupy the valley.

 

[ARVION]

Bhai sabse important ammunition list karna bhul gaye ape

Missiles astra derby python mica derby r 77 r 27
Manpads sa 16 as 17 sa 14 as 18 fim 92
Sam akash mk1 mk1 mk 3 sa 3 goa sa 8 sa 9 sa 13 sa 2 Barak 1 as 11 sa 13 sa 17 barak 8
ABM PAD AAD

 

[A chauhan]

When you get instruction from your boss via same Whatsapp Group https://t.co/s4t37XTwDm

 

[Rakthabeeja]

Here is the clarification from pmo

Now to the people who lost their shit last night context matters, subject which was being discussed matters this was on subject of galwan valley, sure pm speaks on layers but don't look for layers and implications when there aren't

My grandpa always used to say Indians use their intelligence when there is no need to, but don't use it when it is needed the most

 

[maomao]

True unless tibet is solved India china will keep fighting.
At the very least we must turn tibet into protectorate like Bhutan .

That's ours since time immemorial and a buffer zone between us and the Carona Virus spreaders / bat munching ccp communists!

 

[aerokan]

Nope our claim is still 100. Lac has nothing do with claim of any side. Lac is just the present situation.

That was referring to the LAC claim since LAC is not even fully clear yet. Lost in the words

 

[Tanmay]

Look at the thought process of a former foreign secretary


No wonder we were always on a backfoot with such people in leading positions of power


All tweets

Analyzing PM’s statement of yesterday:
Government has taken realistic view of constraints emanating from asymmetry of power with China . It is also reading the Chinese reaction to J&K reorganization more seriously than before and trying to calm situation along LAC/staunch Galwan

Question:will same approach apply to Pangong Tso or Depsang?Possibly.We may be witnessing shift to a less rigid approach on LAC differences with China in the interest of peace &tranquility so that our internal balancing at a time of the many challenges we face is not disturbed.

If this means that there is also growing political will within Government to push for an early border settlement with China I think that is an interesting development &need not be opposed.The question is how we resolve issue of the Chinese attitude on McMahon Line and Tawang.

I hope bottom line is that we act with sense of responsibility & total awareness of wages extracted by war and conflict and with realization that our differences with China have dragged on for far too long. Rhetoric needs to be set aside/we must calibrate our steps carefully.

 

[IndianHawk]