India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Niks_12]

Depsang is fast developing, source is Manu Pubby though.

India-China border face-off: Significant Chinese buildup emerges at Depsang plains

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...es-at-depsang-plains/articleshow/76475166.cms

NEW DELHI: A significant Chinese buildup at the Depsang plains, which lie close to the Daulat Beg Oldie airfield, has emerged as another area of concern amid the current standoff in eastern Ladakh.

The Chinese have violated the Indian perception of LAC in Depsang by moving in troops and building a considerable strength close to the area with tanks and artillery, sources said. The buildup is of particular concern as China claims an area of about 20 km inside the Indian territory.

Sources said Chinese deployments are now well within the Indian side of LAC and at least two roads are rapidly being constructed for fast movement of troops.

The location is also strategic as Chinese side can use its units there to interdict and cut off road access to the DBO airfield as well as the Karakoram pass. Indian territory under threat includes the camp at Burtse and the Raki Nalla area while the buildup has been observed at a feature known as bottleneck, sources said.

In 2013, a three-week standoff took place at the Depsang plain after a Chinese platoon set up a camp near Raki Nalla. This was a surprise for India as this disputed area — where the LAC difference ranges from 15-20 km — had been patrolled by both sides in the past. The Chinese side agreed to withdraw after weeks of flag meetings. Since then, India has completed its road to DBO and beyond, increasing the strategic value of the location.

 

[AmitG]

We have a whole Naval base there.. Brush up a bit sir....

Yes , a naval base with a tri services command but with hardly any principal assets stationed there. And no it’s not fortified enough. Not enough deployment for the vast number of islands and it’s strategic potential is not being exploited . At least nowhere near it’s potential. It needs to be turned into a theatre command on its own. You can squeeze the Chinese right there and there.

 

[ARVION]

If we go by some OSINTs tweet, we'll regularly have a war

That's what I was talking about winnie the pooh wants to eat honey instead of that we need to give him a pot of bees

 

[mokoman]

I disagree, think of like this. Say they send in subs first, it will eventually be picked up the destroyers and the other flotilla of seventh fleet. They cannot send CBGs, it will be trailed by the seventh fleet ship. In fact it will be trailed so that we don't have to do heavy lifting of search work or recon.

In a full blown invasion the US will support us militarily , if they grab a chunk of ladakh , apart from press release dont expect much from them .

They also had talks yesterday , US wants a bunch of things from them . The Chinese already agreed to a lot of it .

China pledged to buy US$36.5 billion worth of American agriculture products under the phase one deal, up from US$24 billion in 2017, before the trade war

China to step up US agriculture purchases after Hawaii talks, sources say

On Thursday, US Secretary of State Michael Pompeo said China’s top foreign policy official Yang Jiechi committed to honour all of his nation’s commitments under the trade deal.

www.scmp.com

 

[Anikastha]

Use our fishermen ship in indian ocean region use ammunition ship directly collide with chicoms navy ramp there ships in Malacca strait through commercial ships. Lease fucking terror on them where the fuck our 130 crore population. Make there life as hell don't take any attack responsibility create biggest pirates in human history make chicoms life as hell say we don't know any of pirate they are not indian just do it man when the fuck this nation going stand up and discard tag of AHINSHA SHATIPRIYA DESH GANDHIAN PHILOSOPHY.

v r not Pakistani to ram their ships shouting ola uber,,,,

 

[TheMayank]

 

[utubekhiladi]

Depsang is fast developing, source is Manu Pubby though.

India-China border face-off: Significant Chinese buildup emerges at Depsang plains

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...es-at-depsang-plains/articleshow/76475166.cms

NEW DELHI: A significant Chinese buildup at the Depsang plains, which lie close to the Daulat Beg Oldie airfield, has emerged as another area of concern amid the current standoff in eastern Ladakh.

The Chinese have violated the Indian perception of LAC in Depsang by moving in troops and building a considerable strength close to the area with tanks and artillery, sources said. The buildup is of particular concern as China claims an area of about 20 km inside the Indian territory.

Sources said Chinese deployments are now well within the Indian side of LAC and at least two roads are rapidly being constructed for fast movement of troops.

The location is also strategic as Chinese side can use its units there to interdict and cut off road access to the DBO airfield as well as the Karakoram pass. Indian territory under threat includes the camp at Burtse and the Raki Nalla area while the buildup has been observed at a feature known as bottleneck, sources said.

In 2013, a three-week standoff took place at the Depsang plain after a Chinese platoon set up a camp near Raki Nalla. This was a surprise for India as this disputed area — where the LAC difference ranges from 15-20 km — had been patrolled by both sides in the past. The Chinese side agreed to withdraw after weeks of flag meetings. Since then, India has completed its road to DBO and beyond, increasing the strategic value of the location.

unless a quick and decisive military action is not taken, we will continue losing land

 

[ezsasa]

In case people are still getting caught up in semantics...

HISTORY LESSON :

1959 : Kongka la (Then)
70 CRPF personnel were on patrol in the area
9 CRPF personnel killed, 7 captured by PLA

2020 : Kongka la (Today)

 

[Bhadra]

Indian army physicaly patroll only upto finger 4 and pla upto finger 2...pla also built motor road upto finger 4 long ago

Forget about Indian Army. Last time it was ITBP patrol that got whacked by the Chinese. Why did not they return with a battalion force the next day and beat the hell out of the Chinese?

JS(E) was not standing there.

And how has this Finger2 jetted in between ??

 

[TheMayank]

Our forces are mobilizing as well, but China is clearly up to something.

 

[utubekhiladi]

unless a quick and decisive military action is not taken, we will continue losing land

 

[ARVION]

v r not Pakistani to ram their ships shouting ola uber,,,,

But we could use Kamikaze USV UUV cant we

 

[AmitG]

I disagree, think of like this. Say they send in subs first, it will eventually be picked up the destroyers and the other flotilla of seventh fleet. They cannot send CBGs, it will be trailed by the seventh fleet ship. In fact it will be trailed so that we don't have to do heavy lifting of search work or recon.

Sub movement intelligence is already being shared by the US. Shadowing is one thing. Getting directly involved is another.

 

[revenge002]

It's time for our agencies in Kashmir region need to massively active every single citizen of Kashmir need to be moniter and also redy our man to go to Kashmir to maintain balnace with population so they not try to rebel you all se in some vedios these dumbfucks coming out of there houses and try to clash with millitary in artillery sites match them in person to person airlift our bhiaris in population in name of construction.

 

[Kumata]

Yes , a naval base with a tri services command but with hardly any principal assets stationed there. And no it’s not fortified enough. Not enough deployment for the vast number of islands and it’s strategic potential is not being exploited . At least nowhere near it’s potential. It needs to be turned into a theatre command on its own. You can squeeze the Chinese right there and there.

you are assuming that... One hand you are agreeing that we have a tri command / base there and other hand u r saying they have no assets there.... we have not send people there for holidays...

 

[Bhadra]

and Gurkha,s would have bought heads with their khukri's.... they were best fit .. they anyways like hand to hand combat...

I still remember the horror stories of 6 feet pathans shivering on seeing 4 feet gorkhas... LOL

A Gurkha would first cut the head and then say I will kill you..

 

[TheMayank]

Theory on Modi's statement:

China put up "structures" right at the LAC in Galwan Valley and obstructed the flow of the river. As part of de-escalation understanding, both troops had to withdraw some distance from LAC and thus China had to abandon the post at LAC.

On the intervening night of June 15/16, PLA abandoned the post. A small Indian patrol party burned the camp so as the Chinese don't occupy it again. This "irritated" the Chinese who ambushed the patrol and killed the CO and 2 sepoys. But actually they had pre-planned the ambush by gathering stones and clubs nearby. This happened at LAC

When this news reached Indian camp, they went for revenge. Now, the PLA released the river water in which many a soldiers fell and drowned. But Indians were also able to cause damage to PLA who lost 35 including CO (according to US intel). This probably happened on the Chinese side of LAC.

So, in conclusion, China did not enter Indian territory but tried to artificially enlarge their claim, as is their MO, by putting up camp right at LAC overseeing the Indian camp and did not de-escalate as per understanding.

 

[utubekhiladi]

A Gurkha would first cut the head and then say I will kill you..

and then kill him again to be sure, and then he will yell on his nose, did you fkiing hear me? i will fing kill you..

 

[ARVION]

I heard we have large amount of Anti radiations drones in our arsenal could it be effective against the both surface and naval targets and even we are going for domestic one is that true ?

 

[AmitG]

Something is definitely going on. Instead of sitting back and trying to defend the Chinese intrusions we need to take the initiative and take the battle to their territory. I think their aim is the Depsang plains , Daulat beg oldie and the Karakoram pass. If we take the initiative we may win or loose but if we sit back we will only loose more territory as we have till now.