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We released causalities first without delay. Where are your soldiers? Already secretly burned as COVID patients among 100,000?There is no direct evidence since the casualty was not released yet, but indirect evidence are circulating on cyber, you can judege by your own. I know in this forum people don't want to believe any bad news for IA.
I said 0 death, but there are casualties: 2 serious injured and 3 are lighter.
Chinese soldiers died for a mafia called PLA(headed by goon Xi aka Winni the Poo) and not a country called China! There is a reason Chinese soldiers don't join voluntarily but FORCED by conscription. What a shame to be a Chinese soldier. We pity families of CHINESE SOLDIERS!
Here are INDIAN SOLDIERS whose martyrdom is seen+respected by all but CHINESE SOLDIERS died for nothing and bunch of cowards and expendables!
So Gobar Times is a mouth peace of Japan? Ok guys so we have a Chini here with US flag now accepting he is a Chinese.Global times is never our official newspaper, Mr Hu is also quite controversial people.
He said there were casualties, but no other valuable info after that.
The news llike this are quite chaotic, they are citing each other and confirm each other... I don't know how those "US intelligence" can really prove it.
I was watching the casualties report from beginning here. When there are 3 Indian killed reported, people believe there were 5 PLA killed. When there are 20 Indian killed, people believe the are 34 PLA killed no one beliee the 5 thing. This is quite interesting mindset, people like to believe what they like to believe.
So in a clash of 300-500 the # of causalities are supposed to rise but since YOU Chinese played this video game in GOD MODE!
In Kargil war, Pakis at least accepted 400 odd soldiers dead even when it was around 3000+ but you have 0 causalities since some "goodwill" prevents you. This good will means your Han Chinese EGO which has punctured! Chinese are the bigger cowards and 200% DENIAL MODE than Pakis.
One question... how much Chinese died in Nanking when Japanese butchered? Do you know something like Nanking even happened?
So you are now accepting you have a SUICIDE Squad and they got killed in big numbers! Just like Jihadis. Thanks for accepting Chinese soldiers are 200% expendables!This report is translated into Chinese in our forum:
PLA Death Squads Hunted Down Indian Troops in Galwan in Savage Execution Spree, Say Survivors
PLA Attacked Indian Troops in Galwan Valley Violating Border Agreements and Protocols - News18
The killings mark the Indian Army’s worst losses since the 1999 Kargil war, and mark the most intense fighting between India and China since 1967.www.news18.com
1) 本场冲突一共持续了八小时。
解放军手持铁棒和用铁丝网包裹的警棍(狼牙棒???)Furious hand-to-hand fighting raged across the Galwan river valley for over eight hours on Monday night, as People’s Liberation Army assault teams armed with iron rods as well as batons wrapped in barbed wire hunted down and slaughtered troops of the 16 Bihar Regiment, a senior government official familiar with the debriefing of survivors at hospitals in Leh has told News18.周一晚上,当解放军的突击队手持铁棒和用铁丝网包裹的警棍追捕和slaughtered (不懂请查字典)比哈尔邦第16团(16 Bihar Regiment)的部队时,激烈的肉搏战在加尔旺河谷持续了8个多小时,一位熟悉在莱赫的医院幸存者情况的政府高级官员告诉News18。
2) 至少有23名印军在冲突中丧生,其中包括比哈尔邦第16团的指挥官桑托什·巴布(Santosh Babu)上校。
The savage combat, with few parallels in the history of modern armies, is confirmed to have claimed the lives of at least 23 Indian soldiers, including 16 Bihar’s commanding officer, Colonel Santosh Babu, many because of protracted exposure to sub-zero temperatures the Indian Army said late on Tuesday.这场野蛮的战斗在现代军队的历史上几乎没有相同的案例,据证实已经夺去了至少23名印度士兵的生命,其中包括比哈尔邦第16团的指挥官桑托什·巴布(Santosh Babu)上校,这么多的伤亡是因为他们长期暴露在零度以下的低温,印度军队周二晚些时候说。
3) 说是冲突,基本上是解放军追着印军漫山遍野跑,还有印军慌不择路跳河被淹死的。
“Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed,” one officer said. “The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape.”
一名警官说:“即使是逃到山坡上的没有武器的人也会被追捕。”。“死者包括跳入加尔旺河拼命逃跑的士兵。”
4) 目前还有24名印军重伤,超过110人受伤。
Government sources say at least another two dozen soldiers are battling life-threatening injuries, and over 110 have needed treatment. “The toll will likely go up,” a military officer with knowledge of the issue said.
政府消息人士说,至少还有24名士兵正在与危及生命的伤势搏斗,超过110人需要治疗。一名了解此事的军官说:“死亡人数可能会上升。”。
5) 冲突的起因是印军越过实控线烧毁了解放军搭建的帐篷。
The fighting at Galwan, News18 had first reported on Tuesday, began after troops under Colonel Babu’s command dismantled a Chinese tent sent up near a position code-named Patrol Point 14, close to the mouth of the Galwan river. The tent had been dismantled following a meeting between Lieutenant General Harinder Singh, who commands the Leh-based XIV Corps, and Major-General Lin Liu, the head of the Xinjiang military district
据News18日报道,加尔旺的战斗是在巴布上校指挥的部队拆除了一个中国帐篷后开始的,这个帐篷是在加尔旺河口附近一个代号为“14号巡逻点”的位置附近搭建的。这座帐篷是在总部位于莱赫的第十四军团指挥官哈林德·辛格中将和新疆军区司令林刘少将会晤后拆除的
6) 解放军占据高处有利地势向下投掷石块,而印军没有还手之力。
Large rocks were also thrown towards the Indian positions by Chinese troops stationed on the high ridge above Point 14, one source said. Though some fought back using the improvised weapons carried by the PLA, most had no means of defence.
一位消息人士说,驻扎在14号巡逻点高山脊上的中国军队向印度阵地投掷了大量石块。尽管有些人使用携带的简易武器进行反击,但大多数人没有防御手段。
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My personal analysis:
1. Among the 20 death, only 3 of them are died in "battle field", but rest of them are not.
If they were all dead on hand with hand fighting, i would say PLA might suffered similiar amount of causualities. But from Indian own news report, the 17 death were from riverside and cliffs.
2. Since the highest ranking the colonel died in the battle field, the whole team seems out of control and collpsed, media used more hours to find KIA numbers of IA soldiers.
3. I would say this is more an accident than a real fight to IA. When the team was collapsed, there was no plan b and rescue team on the second line. The injured soldiers and missing ones suffered whole night at hight of 4500m, this is quite cold during night. The climate killed most of soldiers than PLA.
4. So far, the CCP didn't inflame any domestic anger here, on our weibo, it's not even on the top10 news.
Government, CCP, Xi Jinping, DoD, none of any them made any official statement, you can compare how many Indian top guys made such kind of statement.
If Chinsee side really suffered huge losses, you would imagine the reaction would be quite different.
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That's my personal analysis, welcome reasonable discussion, won't reply insulting.
Do you realize that you just did a self goal!
Hahaha! No resource to confirm! So whether it's 5 or 5000 you would NEVER EVER know! That's China for you!Heard that are 5 casualties, no death. But i have no resource to confirm it.
Why are people wasting time with chinese trolls? They are the same people who will be sent to the gulags if they disobey emperor Winnie the Pooh’s diktats.
Why not? On paki forums they are posting full and insults and we can't even counter them with facts? Do I post what they say in their forums?Please stop engaging trolls. Most people here can see through their idiocy. You'll just waste your time and everyone else's here as they spam the thread and people needing to go through more of their useless replies.