India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Bhadra]

From Gen Hooda's article, it appears that he is also concerned with MoD and CDS excessive focus on reducing pensionary burden which is coming in the way of modernising the Army.

Armed Forces pension has been an area which the policy babus in the country have been obsessed not today but since independence. The 1973 Pay commission reduced down the privilege of military pension to war-winning army from 70 per cent of last pay drawn to 50 per cent of last pay drawn thereby making faujis as civilians ( at par with civilian pensioner) irrespective of the fact there were no changes in Terms and Conditions of the Service. Military personnel continued to retire between 34 - 40 years of age. Today again no attention is being paid to provide any suitable civilian employment to young retiring soldiers but abuse have managed to pose pension as a major burden.

CDS Gen Rawat is ready to go down the history as a man who hit soldiers' pensionary benefits at Babu's behest.

However, no one is ready to implement the most practical way out. Recruit and train personnel for army where they serve for five years then transfer them to CAPF and other central police forces where they retire in 54 years of age with NPS.

All problems resolved. Standing Army with no pensionary burdon. 500 odd battalions of CAPF intact. However. here the interest of Babus comes in a conflict which is above national interest. Any Babu even suggesting that would be booked by CBI.or haunted by IB or Parven Sawney will be used to published a hit piece. . So that will not be accepted...

There is no other way....

 

[tarunraju]

Turns out that the road to DBO is 2-lane, so large vehicles such as split trucks carrying wind turbine blades, can move on the road.

I predict that in the next 3 years, India will build a Joint Base at DBO with presence of IAF, IA, and ITBP, no matter how much it may provoke lizards.

By building a base at F4 Pangong Tso, they've given India a valid reason to build a base at DBO.

 

[Bhadra]

Turns out that the road to DBO is 2-lane, so large vehicles such as split trucks carrying wind turbine blades, can move on the road.

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I predict that in the next 3 years, India will build a Joint Base at DBO with presence of IAF, IA, and ITBP, no matter how much it may provoke lizards.

A bikers paradise ... Sadi Julai billo da maika...

"split trucks carrying wind turbine blade" you mean Tank transporters or towed ATAGS...

 

[garg_bharat]

Well babudom is in every country. We started with a British colonial system which endures to this day. I think changes are needed no doubt but solution may not be abolition of entire babudom. A streamlined MOD can be helpful rather than detrimental.

The pension system is not good. A better system is to make a lumpsum payment based on years of service. And absorption of soldiers in civilian professions is MUST.

 

[IndiaRising]

Good. Continue what needs to be done

 

[asingha94]

Ninda boy is back

https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/raj...through-dialogue-2246445?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

 

[tarunraju]

Looks like chicom earthquake machine isn't working as expected. Maybe they should ask Alibaba for a refund on its parts.

4.4 will only help gujjus release gas better.

Third in 24 Hours, 4.4 Magnitude Earthquake Hits Gujarat's Rajkot - News18

This is the third quake in 24 hours. On Sunday, Rajkot felt the tremors around 8:13 pm, following which an aftershock of 3.1 magnitude was felt six minutes later.

www.news18.com

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Looks like chicom earthquake machine isn't working as expected. Maybe they should ask Alibaba for a refund on its parts.

4.4 will only help gujjus release gas better.

Third in 24 Hours, 4.4 Magnitude Earthquake Hits Gujarat's Rajkot - News18

This is the third quake in 24 hours. On Sunday, Rajkot felt the tremors around 8:13 pm, following which an aftershock of 3.1 magnitude was felt six minutes later.

www.news18.com

Looks like aftershocks..

 

[IndianHawk]

Has the wion article been posted here about limits of chinese in lac ??

This one

China is learning the limitations of its will to power

China’s worst fears are materialising on the banks of the Pangong Lake. As they try to brazen it out between fingers 4 and 8 alongside top brass negotiations with India, the de facto situation is already lost. The Chinese cannot get what they came for. Not even with an ill-advised fight. They...

www.wionews.com

It says we have outflanked the chinkies and found new route from fingure 4 to 8 and Fortified it. Now chinkies are in precarious position.

 

[IndianHawk]

From Gen Hooda's article, it appears that he is also concerned with MoD and CDS excessive focus on reducing pensionary burden which is coming in the way of modernising the Army.

Armed Forces pension has been an area which the policy babus in the country have been obsessed not today but since independence. The 1973 Pay commission reduced down the privilege of military pension to war-winning army from 70 per cent of last pay drawn to 50 per cent of last pay drawn thereby making faujis as civilians ( at par with civilian pensioner) irrespective of the fact there were no changes in Terms and Conditions of the Service. Military personnel continued to retire between 34 - 40 years of age. Today again no attention is being paid to provide any suitable civilian employment to young retiring soldiers but abuse have managed to pose pension as a major burden.

CDS Gen Rawat is ready to go down the history as a man who hit soldiers' pensionary benefits at Babu's behest.

However, no one is ready to implement the most practical way out. Recruit and train personnel for army where they serve for five years then transfer them to CAPF and other central police forces where they retire in 54 years of age with NPS.

All problems resolved. Standing Army with no pensionary burdon. 500 odd battalions of CAPF intact. However. here the interest of Babus comes in a conflict which is above national interest. Any Babu even suggesting that would be booked by CBI.or haunted by IB or Parven Sawney will be used to published a hit piece. . So that will not be accepted...

There is no other way....

Rawat has proposed 3 years tour of duty on the same lines .

Keep a ready experienced force of 5-6 lakh active men and make up the rest with youth on tour of duty.
That way you have enough experienced men to lead the new recruit or man the most critical areas.

 

[ezsasa]

Has the wion article been posted here about limits of chinese in lac ??

This one

China is learning the limitations of its will to power

China’s worst fears are materialising on the banks of the Pangong Lake. As they try to brazen it out between fingers 4 and 8 alongside top brass negotiations with India, the de facto situation is already lost. The Chinese cannot get what they came for. Not even with an ill-advised fight. They...

www.wionews.com

It says we have outflanked the chinkies and found new route from fingure 4 to 8 and Fortified it. Now chinkies are in precarious position.

They must be referring to the Kumaon regiment boys found a route at the heights and went straight to F7. This happened in Oct last year.

this was brought out by Nitin Gokhale last week.

 

[IndianHawk]

They must be referring to the Kumaon regiment boys found a route at the heights and went straight to F7. This happened in Oct last year.

this was brought out by Nitin Gokhale last week.

They are saying now alternate route is fortified and India holds the high ground .

Also says

India found a new patrolling route to finger 8 and beyond from its own positions at finger 4 and quickly fortified it. This outflanks the Chinese encamped below, and exposes them to a clear line of Indian fire. India has also effected several intrusions of its own into Chinese territory.

 

[HawkisRight]

They must be referring to the Kumaon regiment boys found a route at the heights and went straight to F7. This happened in Oct last year.

this was brought out by Nitin Gokhale last week.

Was it kumaon or ITBP?

 

[ezsasa]

Was it kumaon or ITBP?

remember it as Kumaon, It was on India today ajai Shukla, Rohit vats & Maj Gen Ata hassnain were there along with Nitin Gokhale. Don’t remember the date.

 

[IndianHawk]

Ladakh more properly borders the “autonomous” region of Tibet, once called the Roof of the World. The thinking now is that Tibet should be restored to its independence over the centuries. The US is also veering around to the same conclusion.

Ladakh is not very far, particularly by air, from the Indian armed forces based at the plains of Chandigarh.

India will henceforth overlook the Karakoram Pass with greater ease than ever before. It too is Indian territory, encroached upon by China. The Karakoram Pass led, in the days of the ancient Silk Route, from Leh to Yarkand.

 

[HawkisRight]

remember it as Kumaon, It was on India today ajai Shukla, Rohit vats & Maj Gen Ata hassnain were there along with Nitin Gokhale. Don’t remember the date.

Thanx

 

[Longewala]

They are saying now alternate route is fortified and India holds the high ground .

Also says

India found a new patrolling route to finger 8 and beyond from its own positions at finger 4 and quickly fortified it. This outflanks the Chinese encamped below, and exposes them to a clear line of Indian fire. India has also effected several intrusions of its own into Chinese territory.

Desiyon se panga nahi lena chahiye, we are the best at finding alternative routes or short cuts to every situation.

I really hope it's true, not just because of nationalistic reasons but because would die of laughter thinking of the expression on the Chini chutiye when they find out.

 

[IndianHawk]

Desiyon se panga nahi lena chahiye, we are the best at finding alternative routes or short cuts to every situation.

I really hope it's true, not just because of nationalistic reasons but because would die of laughter thinking of the expression on the Chini chutiye when they find out.

Wion is rather serious news Network . And rajnath has promised to inform parliament on everything. There is no scope for lies here.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

India, China will find it tough to reach border agreement: Report

The article by Zhang Yunling, dean of the Institute of International Studies at Shandong University, said though the countries are geographically linked with the Himalaya mountains, “but are apart in their hearts because they lack deep understandings of one another"

www.livemint.com

India, China will find it tough to reach border agreement

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Amid dispute with China, India looking to complete work on strategic DSDBO road

The use of the strategic road by the Indian security forces from Leh has helped in reducing the travel time between Leh and DBO to six hours

www.deccanchronicle.com

Amid dispute with China, India looking to complete work on strategic DSDBO road