India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Bhadra]

Chinese strategy is clear, they take the area of there intrest by force igniting the conflict. Fortify there positions, then declare unilateral ceasefire. Then start blaming the opponent for any future conflict. Same they did in 62 tried in 67 and I think same they trying to do now.

And what is Indian Strategy ?

Conduct quite and clandestine Police operations and establish penny packets..
Get screwed by Chines ..
Do not tell anything to anyone especially the Army..
Then run away from there ..
Then Cry loud and Push Indian Army forward to face the burnt.
Finally blame Indian Army.... wash your hands..

That is what happened 1962 and that is what has happened now..

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Why do you bother to click on these self styled 'defence analysts' videos who don't even know the difference between jam and jelly? You just wasted 24 minutes of your precious life that you can never get back.

Because it was posted in this thread and i wanted to know the other side but like it always happens in India the other side is lacking logic.

 

[cereal killer]

It is happening in Trump era. Trump talks a lot but carries no stick.

Chinese are benefitting immensely from petty fights erupting daily in American politics.

I think Trump America is directionless. It is just muddling through. What is happening in SCS and Ladakh is due to an emboldened China that sees Trump as ineffective.

India has been leaning towards the West since Modi came to power. However what benefit it accrues is hard to see at the moment.

Everyone knows how Trump is like. He will go where his benefit is. If China cuts him a favorable trade deal dude will not utter a word. All we need US is to keep supplying us weaponry & tech & back us diplomatically as we need them to support us for the sake of PoK. Biden has also not made clear how he will tackle China. Though he has said favorable things about India last year but we will get a clear picture when the actual debate starts before US election.

 

[Mikesingh]

Dont Indians deserve to know that from their government at a time of massive troop buildup on both sides of the LAC.. That which are the places where chinese have built encampments and other structures where none existed in April 2020 ?

For security and national interest, that's why. But what the govt should have done was to invite all parties to a closed door meeting and explain the current situation.

Then the 51 year old adolescent wouldn't have had the excuse to embarrass not only the govt, but the country too through his silly Tweets. The Pak media has gone berserk quoting him and inferring that the Chinese have invaded and captured more than half of Ladakh!! Never mind if the Chinese are amused too as it suits their propaganda for public consumption back home.

 

[Mikesingh]

And what is Indian Strategy ?

Conduct quite and clandestine Police operations and establish penny packets..
Get screwed by Chines ..
Do not tell anything to anyone especially the Army..
Then run away from there ..
Then Cry loud and Push Indian Army forward to face the burnt.
Finally blame Indian Army.... wash your hands..

That is what happened 1962 and that is what has happened now..

There's a strong case for putting the ITBP under command the IA, but the turf wars between the Home and Defence ministries are breathtaking in scope and intensity! After all, which IPS honcho (DIG and IG level deputed to the ITBP) having their heads in the clouds 24X7 would like to be commanded by an army officer who may be having greater length of service but of lesser rank? (After just 14 years, an IPS officer is upgraded to Super Time Scale and occupies the post of a DIG equivalent to brigadier rank!).

 

[Bhadra]

There's a strong case for putting the ITBP under command the IA, but the turf wars between the Home and Defence ministries are breathtaking in scope and intensity! After all, which IPS honcho (DIG and IG level deputed to the ITBP) having their heads in the clouds 24X7 would like to be commanded by an army officer who may be having greater length of service but of lesser rank? (After just 14 years, an IPS officer is upgraded to Super Time Scale and occupies the post of a DIG equivalent to brigadier rank!).

Strong case ! Ah.. not so strong as to make the govt wink...
If it is strong , then why do not the Army brass put their foot down and take a firm stand that if the govt wants that there is no mela in LAC areas then for the sake of better coordination ITBP be placed under command..
IF Sector HQ is the problem, let govt keep those and hand over ITBPP battalions minus ITBP Cadre officers to be converted into Army units.. let them disband ITBP... They re meant for a job which is important and let them change the uniform if job so warrants.

Or let MEA and govt declared LAC to be the IB and keep ITBP there for policing .. at least Army will withdraw to barracks...

Why this Hotch porch.. is the IPS interest above national interests.. ??

 

[garg_bharat]

Everyone knows how Trump is like. He will go where his benefit is. If China cuts him a favorable trade deal dude will not utter a word. All we need US is to keep supplying us weaponry & tech & back us diplomatically as we need them to support us for the sake of PoK. Biden has also not made clear how he will tackle China. Though he has said favorable things about India last year but we will get a clear picture when the actual debate starts before US election.

I have a feeling that India is paying too much for American weapons. And the politics of USA does not favour India. At best it is neutral towards India.

So any war strategy has to factor in no significant wartime support from USA.

 

[right wing]

For security and national interest, that's why. But what the govt should have done was to invite all parties to a closed door meeting and explain the current situation.

Then the 51 year old adolescent wouldn't have had the excuse to embarrass not only the govt, but the country too through his silly Tweets. The Pak media has gone berserk quoting him and inferring that the Chinese have invaded and captured more than half of Ladakh!! Never mind if the Chinese are amused too as it suits their propaganda for public consumption back home.

The govt did something like that in dolkam and the very next week they were dining full family with the chinki ambassador.
Even after pulwama,briefing was done and we know the result.
So better to ignore their cries this time

 

[captscooby81]

If this story is true that means chinese have been stopping our patrols from venturing beyond F5 from last year . So there is no surprise this year they came in much higher numbers to completely stop access to IA from doing any patrol beyond F4 .

Please ask your friend this question- have we ever bypass f4 and its ridge through mountains. Because what I heard was that last year we were able to reach f7 bypassing Chinese camp at f5 .

 

[patriots]

Chinese Army build-up from Ladakh to Arunachal, Indian Army increases troop deployment all along LAC

New Delhi [India], June 11 (ANI): Even as India and China continue to discuss ways to reduce tensions in Eastern Ladakh, it is emerging that the Chinese Army has deployed its troops all along the over 4,000 kilometre-long Line of Actual Control after which India has also rushed its fighting...

www.aninews.in

Chinese Army build-up from Ladakh to Arunachal, Indian Army increases troop deployment all along LAC
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Chinese Army build-up from Ladakh to Arunachal, Indian Army increases troop deployment all along LAC

New Delhi [India], June 11 (ANI): Even as India and China continue to discuss ways to reduce tensions in Eastern Ladakh, it is emerging that the Chinese Army has deployed its troops all along the over 4,000 kilometre-long Line of Actual Control after which India has also rushed its fighting...

www.aninews.in

Bdw how many m777 ulh we have

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Chinese Army build-up from Ladakh to Arunachal, Indian Army increases troop deployment all along LAC

New Delhi [India], June 11 (ANI): Even as India and China continue to discuss ways to reduce tensions in Eastern Ladakh, it is emerging that the Chinese Army has deployed its troops all along the over 4,000 kilometre-long Line of Actual Control after which India has also rushed its fighting...

www.aninews.in

Chinese Army build-up from Ladakh to Arunachal, Indian Army increases troop deployment all along LAC
Read more At:

Chinese Army build-up from Ladakh to Arunachal, Indian Army increases troop deployment all along LAC

New Delhi [India], June 11 (ANI): Even as India and China continue to discuss ways to reduce tensions in Eastern Ladakh, it is emerging that the Chinese Army has deployed its troops all along the over 4,000 kilometre-long Line of Actual Control after which India has also rushed its fighting...

www.aninews.in

Bdw how many m777 ulh we have

As of 7th February, 29 M777 were delivered to the Indian Army.
One BAE systems official said it in one of the Defence Expo 2020 videos.

 

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[mokoman]

Is this unprecedented ? , where there this level of deployment during previous stand offs ???

 

[Suryavanshi]

About time babus are kicked in the nuts and militray directly deals with Kalyani for ULH.

 

[fire starter]

hmm.

 

[patriots]

As of 7th February, 29 M777 were delivered to the Indian Army.
One BAE systems official said it in one of the Defence Expo 2020 videos.

How many k9 are delivered
May be 50+

 

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[captscooby81]

If you go back to this so called china expert tweets in last year september he had tweeted that Modi and shah bhakts had bitten more than they can chew and Uncle winnie the pooh has given time till his Mamallapuram informal summit to restore the statehood of J&K and take back repelling of Art370 and we all know what had happened . He is one of the Chinese strategies winning without firing bullet so he keeps on creating that paranoia among mango people that chinese is going to screw indian PM and country .

I don't think anyone take's him serious in indian administration especially his twitter rants

BRO workers to leave for Ladakh - Times of India

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And here is a quote from Pravin Sawhney in yesterday's print article, saying, that all powerful chicoms have a veto over Indian construction in Ladakh.
"Once the pandemic gets over, 11 special trains would be commissioned to bring thousands of labourers for building operational roads close to the LAC. How will that help? For one, the PLA would only object to infrastructure building in Ladakh, and not on the rest of the LAC. Since India has changed the status quo of Ladakh on its maps, the PLA will object to any status quo change on the ground. So, expect these workers to toil in Arunachal Pradesh"

 

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[cereal killer]

Bring it on baby We are ready