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ninja hattori

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Now in addition to the above post which I have mentioned, this is may 8 weibo post,this

and may 9 editorial in global times
To safeguard national security, it is time for China to build up nuclear deterrent By Hu Xijin Source:Global Times Published: 2020/5/9 19:43:13

They assert how they want to increase there war heads. They need pawns to test just like they have used north korea, iran last year crossed the threshold of uranium enrichment by nulling JCPoA.

China wont just fight for border issue it has to be a bigger purpose. And India stands in its way as I explained in previous post. That is why we are eyeing GB like never before because if this happens their are going to be serious ramifications.

As the testing of bomb will alter the security matrix not just in south east asia but whole world. Its now or never.
 

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He is a Liar and can’t be trusted unless he has legitimate Proof that proves what he is claiming. Northern Command and Fire and Fury Corp is not stupid to let Chinese just capture heights in the area especially during times like these when the tension in the area is high. Both sides have lookout posts and surveillance equipment which are deployed across the landscape.
Why are you giving so much importance to him..
He does not know that LAC Management is with ITBP and not the Army?

He and Gen Panag are very stupid in asking why 14 Core did not deploy on heights dominating Shyok Road?

Well if the LAC management is with ITBP and the patrolling points are given to ITBP by MHA how can they go and occupy heights on LAC without proper directions from The MEA and GOI who oversee even troopers urinating towers Chinese side of LAC. How can the Army jump the gun and start occupying heights and trigger a war on its own?

I do not know what will be the outcome but had 14 Corps gone and occupied heights ahead of Galwan, he would have been definitely sent to jail. Leave aside Shukla, I am surprised a man of the stature of Gen Panag should not know that. No one knows this aspect better than the present Army Commander Northern Command who spent many years in China and was also 14 Corps Commander. More than him Gan Vipin Rawat, the CDS who has also been a thorough China expert having handled that desk for many years should know all the nuances of LAC management..

Chinese have outsmarted and fully utilized loopholes of the present National Security Management System, not the Army. let us call a spade a spade.

So far Shukla is concerned he is still in Sand Model mode and running deep thrusts of 100 km in two days in Galwan valley using his public school English eloquence to run his horses ....
 
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Now in addition to the above post which I have mentioned, this is may 8 weibo post,this

and may 9 editorial in global times
To safeguard national security, it is time for China to build up nuclear deterrent By Hu Xijin Source:Global Times Published: 2020/5/9 19:43:13

They assert how they want to increase there war heads. They need pawns to test just like they have used north korea, iran last year crossed the threshold of uranium enrichment by nulling JCPoA.

China wont just fight for border issue it has to be a bigger purpose. And India stands in its way as I explained in previous post. That is why we are eyeing GB like never before because if this happens their are going to be serious ramifications.

As the testing of bomb will alter the security matrix not just in south east asia but whole world. Its now or never.
China has been doing everything they can to prevent India's rise for decades.
I don't know why all this happening now is a suprise?? China has been an obstacle
for India in all international arenas and humiliates India every chance it gets.
 

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China has been doing everything they can to prevent India's rise for decades.
I don't know why all this happening now is a suprise?? China has been an obstacle
for India in all international arenas and humiliates India every chance it gets.
But if you think about it. This whole incident and doklam has depicted them as just hot air. Every day that this standoff drags on, it makes them look weak.
 

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hello all.
new to this forum was watching this thread. Please open links posted below


1.

I hope u all remember the ship catched by india on port of Gujarat claiming it as it carried missile like machinery.


2.

Now nov 27 2019

this was detresfa osint who covered kahuta in his osint. As was closely following things post 5 aug 2019. also he has other tweets how the facility has been rapidly camoufalged.

3.

just yesterday we heard how the skardu base had increased activity.

4.

and now this

that china is going to use skardu air base for its nuclear test and in exchange pak is going to get tech transferred.

l

Now the point here what I want to make is.

This confrontation is not something which just occurred in a day. Its been planned for an year as ISI knew modi is going to play his cards on kashmir

1.Imran khan selected for this purpose by ISI as before his election some majors of pak army used to say he is a known face to west.

2. Extension of asim bajwa for 3 yrs.

3. even after art 370 abrogation and so much hue cry at home for Kashmir. No action taken by there army. As they have always tasted defeat one more would be death nail in there coffin.


The sole objective of what is going on since art 370 abrogation is not Kashmir integration but stopping pak attain this tech.

and the renewed giligit balistan claim suddenly *(by intensity ) in this pandemic is not for political purpose but for stopping this huge strategic matrix shift to happen.

We are going to be in a two front war. I have given u link above for my assertion. Now adding to this assertion the vehicle blast that occurred day before was planned if it had got successful we know the choices we had and combine this with renewed claim of paki ministers and diplomats clamour in all PC of false flag attack. Nd btw 2 of this cars are yet to be found. We had to attack if this blast had occurred and the bullet that we are waiting to be fired in east would had got fired in west. Things are working in tandem with both countries china and pak. We have to be watchful and not be impulsive there is a greater game at play here and this lac incursion is not just a salami slicing thing as we are building infra for long.
Plutonium enrichment, and making it into deployable payload?
One thing is certain, they are scared as fuck, but they now know that the bells of war for PoK has been already rung. Chin-com brigade just not entered LAC like that, they are told to do so.

This could be significant intel.
 

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China has been doing everything they can to prevent India's rise for decades.
I don't know why all this happening now is a suprise?? China has been an obstacle
for India in all international arenas and humiliates India every chance it gets.
Sir,

No one is surprised.

But assertion is Chinese are deceptive and that's the only permanent characteristic they have.

The intensity of things that are happening is what I wanted to point out.

China just fighting for border ? I will always believe this is not as simple and straight it looks.



Its only justified when they are trying to act as deterrent against our action on pak.

Now if u remember the vessel that was caught invoked response straight away from chinese foreign office when it wasn't even in much news,

this is the news item

and that response was not moderate but more of as a threat. DRDO visited and confirmed that it an autoclave for weapon of mass destruction.

Things are in serious play for past year along.
 

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Plutonium enrichment, and making it into deployable payload?
One thing is certain, they are scared as fuck, but they now know that the bells of war for PoK has been already rung. Chin-com brigade just not entered LAC like that, they are told to do so.

This could be significant intel.
If there is proof, that would make them guilty of proliferation.

good reason to get kicked out of permanent membership insecurity council. Slap Sanctions...Etc...etc... which would in turn foment unrest from within leading to a soviet style exit. Wow.
 

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If there is proof, that would make them guilty of proliferation.

good reason to get kicked out of permanent membership insecurity council. Slap Sanctions...Etc...etc... which would in turn foment unrest from within leading to a soviet style exit. Wow.
I think China will be kicked out if China attacks India.
 

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Plutonium enrichment, and making it into deployable payload?
One thing is certain, they are scared as fuck, but they now know that the bells of war for PoK has been already rung. Chin-com brigade just not entered LAC like that, they are told to do so.

This could be significant intel.
we have this intel as the actions on our part signifies that,

In dec 2019 we went ahead with aussies for having mutual logistics pact now when ausindex was happening, swapping of two islands

copied from an article

*Experts believe once the agreement signed it will provide India an eye to monitor between the Andaman & Nicobar island in the north to the Cocos island in the south. The agreement will also vast our search domain in sea communication. The choke-points Sunda and Lombak which lies in the Indonesian straits are the viable Sea Lines of Communication (SLOC) which remain outside the Indian domain. But mutual use of Cocos island will allow the Indian side to have access to this important SLOC. Similarly, the Australian side will have access to use the straits of Malacca to monitor the Chinese presence in SCS. The Chinese military is building the infrastructure in the SCS which likely to create unbalance in the region and it can also hinder sea security. Straits of Malacca, Sunda, and Lombak is an important route for transportation of crude oil and petroleum products. From the point of strategically and economically, both India and Australia don’t want China to have upper-hand in these regions*

there was a SCOMOSA tweet by Australian head day before tomorrow,

today we have news that there is going to be a virtual meet this week.

Now ,

again taking you to the statements issued by global times viz Australia

dnt be a us dog.

and viz India

dnt try to be a us dog.

Lots of coincidences happening to digest.

Like it was discussed how we can choke strait of malacca. Now its happening for real.
 

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Good story but why would china wait 30 days for if it really wants to attack India?

Why would china not delay this plan by 2 years coz this year anyway their image is fucked coz of Coronovirus?
Maybe because they have a bigger agenda. Just like we want PoK and the bells have been rung already, the sentiments of Chinese people to take back HK & Taiwan is strong too.

1. The country who launched 1 child policy in 1979 by forcibly sterilizing there own women is a slap to a nation. Shit was so fucked up, village officials would rape women if they denied sterilization. (what fucked up thing is this). This is an example of crazy experiment.
2. The timing is just too good to be perfect. 2020 is a not just new decade, but by economic terms, its when 90s generation start raising there kids.
3. Chinas population is now comprised of almost 35% old.
4. 2015 marked the year of end of one child policy. That's past five years, when a 90s kid can marry and allow women bearing kids. (ideally its after 5 years)
5. A virus whose epicenter is right next to "national virology lab"?
6. A virus which propagated right at the end of the year 2019? (luck or deliberate move?)
7. China having its oil reserved full, bought properties since 2010 onwards like drug lord?
8. Investing into projects that poor countries can't pay so they could turn it into milking cow?

Its younger population is nationalistic, could win support for skirmish over a false flag of there own over LAC

These events are far from luck, as if someone orchestrated these.
 

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we have this intel as the actions on our part signifies that,

In dec 2019 we went ahead with aussies for having mutual logistics pact now when ausindex was happening, swapping of two islands

copied from an article

*Experts believe once the agreement signed it will provide India an eye to monitor between the Andaman & Nicobar island in the north to the Cocos island in the south. The agreement will also vast our search domain in sea communication. The choke-points Sunda and Lombak which lies in the Indonesian straits are the viable Sea Lines of Communication (SLOC) which remain outside the Indian domain. But mutual use of Cocos island will allow the Indian side to have access to this important SLOC. Similarly, the Australian side will have access to use the straits of Malacca to monitor the Chinese presence in SCS. The Chinese military is building the infrastructure in the SCS which likely to create unbalance in the region and it can also hinder sea security. Straits of Malacca, Sunda, and Lombak is an important route for transportation of crude oil and petroleum products. From the point of strategically and economically, both India and Australia don’t want China to have upper-hand in these regions*

there was a SCOMOSA tweet by Australian head day before tomorrow,

today we have news that there is going to be a virtual meet this week.

Now ,

again taking you to the statements issued by global times viz Australia

dnt be a us dog.

and viz India

dnt try to be a us dog.

Lots of coincidences happening to digest.

Like it was discussed how we can choke strait of malacca. Now its happening for real.
Are the aussies really that powerful? All I hear is they use a lot of US equipment.

but if you read their articles, they talk like they are providing over watch in the Indian Ocean lol
 

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This posturing is for long - long - long time...
This is how the Chinese have sucked in Indian Army more than required..
This has virtually delayed if not stalled Indian thrust into GB from Skardu....
Where ever the Chinese or Indian's have made advances in past no one has pulled back....

North Sikkim is virtually a combat zone which used to a dissolute area with a few detachments of Assam Rifles far behind...

Zimithang in Tawang sector has become a permanent PLA and IA postures.. where we had forced Chinese to draw water from our water spring..

Doklam is going to be permanent deployment are...

Indian forces easily reach Barahaoti in Uttarakhand as also Shipkila in Himachal..

ITBP is but a facade neither here nor there ... this force needs to be amalgamated in a better fashion with Army..

So long India has not done badly in securing our Northern and Eastern borders through Chinese may not give us so much time to throw them out any longer... it is time they are feeling threatened everywhere and will bite everywhere and anywhere they get a chance...
But, wouldn't this also stretch the PLA, and also create a certain india centered ness in the PLA, as more and more PLA officers serve on the India front. Also, would it not increase their vulnerability during a future taiwan or scs campaign..
 

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If there is proof, that would mThake them guilty of proliferation.

good reason to get kicked out of permanent membership insecurity council. Slap Sanctions...Etc...etc... which would in turn foment unrest from within leading to a soviet style exit. Wow.

Exactly the reason to use pawns like north korea and pakistan. Ek teer se do shikar
 
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