India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Assassin 2.0]

Guy's stick to the topic.

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Guy's stick to the topic.

I know right m. Just couldn’t resist posting that link in response to his wiki link

 

[Rudy123]

Are you seriously joking

We claimed our territory till Finger 8 but we never patrolled beyond Finger 4 , ITBP post is near finger 4 . 2018 clash on lake happened near Finger 4 , Go back and check Raj47 tweets he is posting chinese posts and boat berths since 2017 . Its not chinese came suddenly to Finger 4 in 2020 they are near Finger 4 for years

I don't want to blame anyone like you .

India claims upto finger 8 but China claims upto finger 4.
Road built by china upto finger 4 from their highway G219 i.e. Chinese side.
We have our own road upto finger 4 where ITBP camp is located.
Before this brawl, India and China both patrol between finger 4 and finger 8 but not cross LAC perceived by them.
Tension started in panong tso lake when Chinese stop Indian patrol upto finger 8, which happened after Galawan valley scenario.
Lake seeing most tension rather than Galawan (which is flashpoint) because of better connectivity for Chinese .
Good road in panong tso makes it auto car expo venue to show their shiny toys which rather cannot reach other areas in Ladakh.

 

[IndiaRising]

this is what day 30 of conflict... Chinese were supposed to take all of Ladakh by now according to shukla, but they are playing an even more brilliant strategy by allowing their enemy to reinforce our positions with reserves not so far away..... wow this is how you win a war as illustriously farted by Sun Chewt.

PS: the number of people falling for fake propaganda and immediately going into depression makes me believe our country's population doesn't have the guts for a war ever. You can stop dreaming of Pok which will result in actual casualties, unlike here where not even one bullet has been fired.

 

[Rudy123]

Come on people, how is that photo remotely photoshopped? others have asked but no one has provided any sort of clear information. They have bases in the grey areas and stopping us from patrolling those area, what a pathetic response this is. China knows we want to settle this diplomatically and not militarily, they know we;re not ready. Even the army chief stated "aggressive behaviour on both sides" (article linked below), wtf does he mean? is he blaming his own soldiers for this situation? Indians are the biggest enemies to themselves, not Pakistan and not China. People won't like this comment and this thread has some unbelievably stupid comments (i hope they;re just intended as humour and people don't actually believe it) like calling Chinese midgets when we;re shorter than them, like come on.

Words matter, so speak carefully | ORF

When the Army Chief of ostensibly the world’s largest ground force speaks, the world listens. And when the nation in question is seeking to project itself

www.orfonline.org

Regarding photo release by Chinese, there are few Chinese account reporting this is an old photo. In this instance few jawans fell in panong tso lake and later rescued by Chinese army. In pic, jawan 1 and jawan 2 got leg fractured therefore their legs were tied with stretcher for support. Even IA thanked them later.

This photo does not seem Photoshop but neither related to present situation. Chinese cannot release video related to this photo.

 

[SRao]

Before challenging the chinese in the grey area.. India needs to make sure that we have road connectivity to the areas which we control, like finger 4. That is exactly what this government is doing, because until that happens Indian foot patrol will be at the mercy of China's superior logistics.. So, the chinese dont want us to... and are escalating in the grey area.. to force India to deescalate by stopping road building close to LAC..
And yes, Indian average height has been overtaken by the Chinese over the past century..They are taller than us, by about an inch..

Again, some thing doesn't add up. In the video doing the rounds, the chinese armored vehicles were on a dirt track, not really a road, while the Indians were on foot. Why aren't IA soldiers in similar vehicles in those areas? It seems that IA is not equipped, or does not want to have its soldiers use such equipment, lest it annoys the chinese. Neanderthal thinking, imo. We need some leader there who is not constrained by such niceties, and uses the best equipment available on hand, to hell if it ruffles chinese feathers. The chinese have no such qualms.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Before challenging the chinese in the grey area.. India needs to make sure that we have road connectivity to the areas which we control, like finger 4. That is exactly what this government is doing, because until that happens Indian foot patrol will be at the mercy of China's superior logistics.. So, the chinese dont want us to... and are escalating in the grey area.. to force India to deescalate by stopping road building close to LAC..
And yes, Indian average height has been overtaken by the Chinese over the past century..They are taller than us, by about an inch..

We have built Road along Pangong lake in 2013 itself till ITBP base... As of now there is no construction going on near the lake
Infra is being built in Galwan valley across Galwan river which Chinese are rattled and trying to encroach territory across this lake !

 

[tarunraju]

It doesn't make sense.

Major Chinese news outlets is still silent about what's going on along the border, it's clear that a military conflict with India is not something to be expected and to be made public soon.

Major Indian news outlets are equally silent. The news cycle still reports this as a border patrol skirmish. This has not captivated our media. We're still captivated by the Chernobyl-level disaster you people caused (COVID-19)

It's something that India forced on China, just like what happened in 2017, and just like in 2017 PLA can't stand down.

As I explained in detail, if India wanted to pull a Doklam, this is pathetic timing (or at least the Chinese explanation is pathetic). We just suffered a huge natural disaster, are battling a pandemic, our economy is shot, and the threat of street riots by Muslims looms large. You'd think we'd pick a better time to provoke China.

I guess India picked China because Modi figures that China is mature and more restraint in using military force, no surprise to be expected even if a war breaks out, hence things won't get out of control.

The PLA doesn't show restraint against its own people. You expect it to show restraint against us?

Let's examine your argument at face value. China isn't the only country that would show restraint against India. We could strike Bangladesh to widen the Chicken's neck. We could take Mithila from Nepal. We could dislodge northern province of Sri Lanka. But instead we'd pick a fight against China, a UNSC-P5 member, that too over a freaking lake? Your explanation is nonsense.

Even under normal circumstances (i.e. without COVID-19, without insurgency, without economic/migrant crises), your explanation is unsuitable for India picking a fight with China. If we wanted to pick a fight with a country that showed restraint.

On the other hand, China has many reasons to pick a fight with India. It would be a long-drawn spectacle to keep CCP and the Chinese masses distracted so Xi could shake off his colossal foreign policy failures (COVID-19, US-PRC trade, HK, TW, BRI loan defaults, and more), and for the reasons I mentioned, this is the perfect time for China to attack India.

As of today Xi Jinping does not deserve to sit one day more in office than his normal 5+5 year term. He has done nothing spectacular for China that the past 4 presidents haven't. He's trying hard to do "spectacular" things, and one of them is picking a fight with India.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

heh? China can invade KMs into Indian territory, beat up Indian soldiers remorselessly- you saw the pictures, however much we deny it, tie them up and treat them like animals, and that does not cause a diplomatic trouble for China. But capturing a vehicle tresspassing on Indian soil, keeping it in custody for several years to "study" it, will? I think we scare ourselves into complete inaction even before the chinese have done anything, that they dont need to do anything! Like saying, so jaa bete, nahin to Gabbar aa jaayega.

China only intruded into the Grey Zone between LAC and Chinese Occupied Aksai Chin not the LAC itself. The vehicle was part of a Chinese Patrol in the Grey Zone between LAC and Aksai Chin. They were stoped by a Indian Patrol near Lake. One Chinese soldier was captured by the Indian Forces and the vehicle was damaged and they retreated back after the confrontation. India didn’t capture this vehicle.

 

[tarunraju]

The most scathing attack on the CCP by a US Secretary of State.

 

[nimo_cn]

The most scathing attack on the CCP by a US Secretary of State.

He is a spy for God sake, who openly said "we lied, we cheated, we stole".

 

[Tuco]

He is a spy for God sake, who openly said "we lied, we cheated, we stole".

Thats CCP's moto isn't it. So you should be proud that he is following your ways, CCP pholosophy.

 

[lcafanboy]

What a reply...

 

[Mikesingh]

@rockdog
Three essential judgment of China which are going to destroy China

# Destroy World economy by Wuhan Corona Virus while saving China of Wuhan virus - China but has not been able to control it.

Destroying the world economy: Thousands of big companies worldwide shut down due to virus > breakdown of supply chains > Chinese buy them off dirt cheap as they have the money > Get control of most big companies and run world supply chains > control world economy with Chinese Yuan > Become the world's only superpower.

But their plans have come a cropper. Biological warfare is a different ball game altogether!

 

[Akshay Fenix]

Nitin Gokhale Retweeted.


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Then theres also that.

 

[Major Sahab RR]

Once this is over, this ex Gen needs to be questioned. Govt. needs to bring a statute with an immediate effect prohibiting ex-servicemen to create any noise during an ongoing conflict. All anti-govt n anti-Indian narratives have one thing in common i.e. their citation of this person's tweet. Even if what he wrote is 1% true, then also he needed to be mum. I think he understands what PsyOp means. We all know what's going to be the conclusion of this conflict. After few months things will settle like they were.
But at the end we wont be losing from invaders but from own Jai Chands.

Narrative being generated same as it was done in Rafale's case.

 

[Jaymax61]

For our Pakistani viewers - Cheeni Abbu translates to Sugar Daddy

Once that sinks in everything becomes clear

 

[Sanglamorre]

Again, some thing doesn't add up. In the video doing the rounds, the chinese armored vehicles were on a dirt track, not really a road, while the Indians were on foot. Why aren't IA soldiers in similar vehicles in those areas? It seems that IA is not equipped, or does not want to have its soldiers use such equipment, lest it annoys the chinese. Neanderthal thinking, imo. We need some leader there who is not constrained by such niceties, and uses the best equipment available on hand, to hell if it ruffles chinese feathers. The chinese have no such qualms.

They had to move the car in reverse because there wasn't enough space to turn. That's why, no car from Indian side.

 

[Major Sahab RR]

Nitin Gokhale Retweeted.


This article is nowhere to be found.


Then theres also that.

 

[doreamon]

There was indeed a avalanche in north sikkim 15th may