India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[IndianHawk]

No we cant invade.. In that case we ll face full force of chinese air and land power which ll be in range .. We cn only defend ourselves .. why on earth india ll invade Tibet by the way ..

China can only put a limited part of it's air and land forces in tibet. There is a thing called geography and physics.

 

[cereal killer]

Hang On! To those people who are worried about Chinese Nukes. First of all that means MAD (mutually assured destruction). Secondly both India & China have no first use policy. Nukes are out if the question. Coming to non Nukes China does have superiority in Missile warfare thanks our Pathetic bureaucracy all these years & I guess they do have S 400. But as I said before logistics favour India massively. We have the ability to overrun entire Tibet. We only need US & western powers to keep a leash on Porkies. Then in one one scenario we will kick China's ass badly.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Democrats are trapped. They can't out Trump Trump.
No body believes that democrat can stand up to china. Obama was repeatedly insulted by chinkies.

Trump's ant chinese moves and comments have been a boost for his popularity
looks like a good chance he will be reelected??

 

[IndianHawk]

Trump's ant chinese moves and comments have been a boost for his popularity
looks like a good chance he will be reelected??

Two things are in his favor.
Anti Chinese mood and his record for economic recovery.

But the biggest thing is Biden clearly has dementia.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Hang On! To those people who are worried about Chinese Nukes. First of all that means MAD (mutually assured destruction). Secondly both India & China have no first use policy. Nukes are out if the question. Coming to non Nukes China does have superiority in Missile warfare thanks our Pathetic bureaucracy all these years & I guess they do have S 400. But as I said before logistics favour India massively. We have the ability to overrun entire Tibet. We only need US & western powers to keep a leash on Porkies. Then in one one scenario we will kick China's ass badly.

Chinese Nukes in Tibet are reported to be in silos?? Chinese IRBM's in the
100's possibly thousands pointed at Delhi and other indian cities do not have
nuclear warheads.

 

[Sanglamorre]

No we cant invade.. In that case we ll face full force of chinese air and land power which ll be in range .. We cn only defend ourselves .. why on earth india ll invade Tibet by the way ..

To have an independent Tibet that's allied to us like Nepal or Bhutan. Being land-locked and their other only coast-having neighbour as a reduced China, it can be done I believe.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Two things are in his favor.
Anti Chinese mood and his record for economic recovery.

But the biggest thing is Biden clearly has dementia.

Biden may nit be the democratic candidate?? Rumor Cuomo may run?

 

[IndianHawk]

Hang On! To those people who are worried about Chinese Nukes. First of all that means MAD (mutually assured destruction). Secondly both India & China have no first use policy. Nukes are out if the question. Coming to non Nukes China does have superiority in Missile warfare thanks our Pathetic bureaucracy all these years & I guess they do have S 400. But as I said before logistics favour India massively. We have the ability to overrun entire Tibet. We only need US & western powers to keep a leash on Porkies. Then in one one scenario we will kick China's ass badly.

China doesn't have superiority in tibet. Most of it's forces are focused on east where USA and Japan are sitting with forces which make china look like a joke.

 

[IndianHawk]

Biden may nit be the democratic candidate?? Rumor Cuomo may run?

It's too late for that . Changing candidate mid way will hurt democrats. Plus Bernie is still on primary ballet.

 

[IndianHawk]

Chinese Nukes in Tibet are reported to be in silos?? Chinese IRBM's in the
100's possibly thousands pointed at Delhi and other indian cities do not have
nuclear warheads.

Here is the thing. No one trusts ccp and Chinese. If china releases even one nuke towards India . USA Uk and France will see that as a sign of extreme Chinese beligerece. Result nukes will fly toward china from all over the world.

We will retaliate with full might taking out pakistan as well but USA won't wait for the day where china might live to nuke it either .

So china won't go for nukes unless it wishes to be annihilated.

 

[Suryavanshi]

All this talk about nukes.
Nukes will never fly between two nuclear capable nation.

 

[cereal killer]

China doesn't have superiority in tibet. Most of it's forces are focused on east where USA and Japan are sitting with forces which make china look like a joke.

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Both US & Japan make PLAN against India useless.

 

[Bhadra]

Timely troop deployment averted deeper incursions by Chinese Army in Galwan Nala area – Indian Defence Research Wing

idrw.org

Source :- ANI

58 years after 1962 , Two front war is an inevitable we all know , Two nuclear capable enemies , we did almost nothing rather than Chest thumbing

There has been big hue and cry here abut Lt Gen Panag writing a hit piece.
This piece is however written by ANI, who are neutral if not pro-govt.
The main points highlighted are :

* Chinese Army started building up its troops along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in the Galwan Nala area in the first week of May, (his is now about the end of May.... OK . When was Army Informed about it ?? when did Army decide to take over LAC here from ITBP or why the LAC was not handed over to Army?). Were HQ NE Frontier Leh and Army Corps there sleeping ??

* The Galwan Nullaha post was reinforced in time. Did the Army troops from 114 Brigade reinforce ITBP or ITBP rushed their own troops?

* Chinese troops walked into the Galwan Nala area from their road head 17 km from the Indian post KM120 ( The Chinese came from about 100 km away from the Exercise Area and then walked for 17 Km (say about five hours, if a brigade strength then take seven hours easily) - was any intelligence available on Chinese move? If not -then why not?? Who will face the axe ?? Army ultimately ?? But why ?? All those who were responsible for advance warning should be hung by pole and put in front of Galwan post as the practice target....

* Sources said that the Chinese have been feeling threatened by the road infrastructure being built by the Indian side in the DBO area in the last two to three years which have started showing results now.
(If the Galwan bridge was felt to be sensitive where Chinese were intruding for last two years - then why did ITBP not deploy into Galwan Nallaha in sufficient strength to provide depth to the bridge and protect it? Did Army / BRO tell ITBP to do that since ITBP is the force responsible for LAC management?

* The Chinese have intruded up to finger 4, that is quite an advance and in an area where there are hundreds of tents pitched for tourism and ITBP must have built a guest house for their VIPs and relatives of IGs and DG coming from Leh and Delhi. There can not be any intelligence failure there. I am sure some SB Jassos and IB Jassos definetly must be sitting near their heaters smoking Cigars and gulping whisky. with may be some foreigner guest, being a tourist resort...

Why the forces have failed to react in time and thwart intrusion...

What is this word "Border Mangement" coined by MHA and Security mendarins mean ? Are they managing the border to be handed over to PLA ?? For the time being that is what it appears to be..

MODI GUSSE MEN HAI ... AUR WO GUSSA JAYAZ HAI ? BATAO WO KAUN HAI JISKI GARDAN PAKADI JAYE.... BATAO

 

[LETHALFORCE]

China doesn't have superiority in tibet. Most of it's forces are focused on east where USA and Japan are sitting with forces which make china look like a joke.

China has missiles in Tibet for the last 50 years. They don't have air or battallion
strength but they reportedly have huge number of missiles installed and bombers.

China reported to have deployed strategic bombers, guided missile base in continuing militarization of Tibet - Tibetan Review

(TibetanReview.net, Apr28’19) – While talking peace and good-neighbourly relations with India, China is said to be massively building its military preparedness directed against the country. China is quietly building up its military presence in Tibet and upgrading many airfields for military use...

www.tibetanreview.net

China reported to have deployed strategic bombers, guided missile base in continuing militarization of Tibet

China ‘developing electromagnetic rocket with greater fire range’

Programme’s lead scientist speaks of ‘substantial progress’ in devising a high-velocity rocket that can fly further from Tibet.

www.scmp.com

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Indian & American read outs of Indian Defence Minister Rajnath Singh & US Defence Secretary Mark Esper talks


Indian & American read outs of Indian Defence Minister Rajnath Singh & US Defence Secretary Mark Esper talks

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Here is the thing. No one trusts ccp and Chinese. If china releases even one nuke towards India . USA Uk and France will see that as a sign of extreme Chinese beligerece. Result nukes will fly toward china from all over the world.

We will retaliate with full might taking out pakistan as well but USA won't wait for the day where china might live to nuke it either .

So china won't go for nukes unless it wishes to be annihilated.

it will be a non nuclear border skirmish or a standoff.

 

[nrj]

As far as border dispute or unilateral aggression goes, its in our best interest to keep the issue strictly bilateral.

India has & must have bona fide relation with China unaltered by other parties.

Govt did right thing to deny involvement of USA/Trump in this matter.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Here is the thing. No one trusts ccp and Chinese. If china releases even one nuke towards India . USA Uk and France will see that as a sign of extreme Chinese beligerece. Result nukes will fly toward china from all over the world.

No third country would use there nukes for another country. We do not even have
have formal alliances or a nuclear umbrella with any country for this to happen.
We would have to use our own nukes.

 

[IndianHawk]

China has missiles in Tibet for the last 50 years. They don't have air or battallion
strength but they reportedly have huge number of missiles installed and bombers.

China reported to have deployed strategic bombers, guided missile base in continuing militarization of Tibet - Tibetan Review

(TibetanReview.net, Apr28’19) – While talking peace and good-neighbourly relations with India, China is said to be massively building its military preparedness directed against the country. China is quietly building up its military presence in Tibet and upgrading many airfields for military use...

www.tibetanreview.net

China reported to have deployed strategic bombers, guided missile base in continuing militarization of Tibet

China ‘developing electromagnetic rocket with greater fire range’

Programme’s lead scientist speaks of ‘substantial progress’ in devising a high-velocity rocket that can fly further from Tibet.

www.scmp.com

There bombers are useless so as long our fighter jets are active. Bombers only work in uncontested airspace.

Missile are damaging but they don't win wars. Ultimately if could move more men cutting their supply line we will win.

 

[IndianHawk]

As far as border dispute or unilateral aggression goes, its in our best interest to keep the issue strictly bilateral.

India has & must have bona fide relation with China unaltered by other parties.

Govt did right thing to deny involvement of USA/Trump in this matter.

India signed treaty with soviet union in midst of war to nuetral USA power.

If a war happens with china a treaty with USA now may follow on same lines.

China must give up on pok and pakistan if it wants India to keep others out of equation.