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mokoman

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They are the ones that are supposed to vacate... not us..
if history is any proof, CCP won't declare their dead for another two decades.

"a 1956 map...showed the entire Galwan Valley as a part of India. However, in June 1960 China put out a map claiming sovereignty over the valley. A Chinese map from...1962 also claims the entire valley but [later] maps have not shown the western tip of the river as part of China"

Your right , they wont declare their dead, dont wanna break that air of invincibility .

I think they started claiming Arunachal Pradesh as "South Tibet" only recently , i don't think they really care for actual facts.
 

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I've written already that they are are reforming. Short skirmish will take place, because CCP's vestige interest is in Saving Xi's face. CCP is already knowing that they are getting surrounded. The world is again dividing between Commies (take Nepal as now one of the axis nation already) and Free Trade Alliance.
That is right. Short skirmish is the aim.
My perception is that this is not the final war. Additional chini moto is to test all indian capabilities of what we can do politically, militarily. This short skirmishs will allow them to fine-tune the strategies of final war. The final war will be when pakis get involved fully in a war with India. I will not be surprised in final war, Nepal, BD and SLanka got involved as a vessel states of china providing land supports.
This is our final change to prepare fully for all front war. No time to waste now.
 

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Some people may not be considering Bihar regiment as one of the best because it is a very recent regiment formed in 1941 only.
The Bengal regiment that was basically consisted of Babhans and Rajputs of Bihar, was dismantled after they revolted, and only got ressurected as Bihar regiment to some extent though this time including other castes in numbers as well especially ahirs and tribals as well.
While other mentioned (in a above comment) regiments are very old and have a history of fighting across the globe for tge British empire and have a lot more battle honours.
 

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i always feel fanboys over estimate brahmos, there is only so much a 300 kg warhead can do.
Yes, but it always depend on what do you use those 300kgs on.. If you use it on a batallion HQ, there may not be much significant consequence.. but if you use it to create a crater on Hotan/Ngari airport runways, result might be different.
 

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They are saying that Sonia Ghandhi and Rahul baba signed an agreement wit CCP to do each others bidding and after that everyone in the establishment under MMS minus the Armed Forces did everything to olige the Chines. No ALGs constructed, No raod clearances given and armed forces dried of funds. Some land on LAC was also gifted. ITBP was all quite on Chinese front.

You know when I was young what they used to call ITBP - Indira Teri Badmash Police...... :pound:
The ITBP was used during the emergency IIRC.
 

samsaptaka

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Xi's father was murdered by CCP goons. And Xi followed the ideology of CCP. I mean seriously man!!! What kind of sick and/or greedy you have to be to do that??!!:crazy::crazy::crazy:
Maybe he is takin revenge on CCP like Shakuni ...

That's why he is taking revenge with CCP. He will finish off CCP single handedly. If you look closely after 2012 all China related issue started.
India related issue(Major incursion in 2013)
Tiawan issues
Japan Issues
Artificial island issue
South China sea
Problems with US
Trade war
Chinese virus
Issues with African Countries

Not to forget internal fighting with former party presidents. He might be talking revenge.... :scared2: :scared2: :scared2: :pound::pound:

XI to sala
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Devmanush nahi re baba, shakuni re...

If you mean to target AS, then you are wrong. Fault lies with remnants of Jaitley faction who still hold power via NS. No wonder she was shunted out.

Her policies are now at par with AJ. Dead men tell no tales!
Why ? AS has the power to fire those corrupt babus does he not ? Buck stops with him.
 

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Can anyone please explain why Chinese want to stop galwan river??
seems to be a normal military tactic to use water flow as a weapon when ever there is an opportunity.
But some chatters say water again started flowing ... thanks to Bihari engineers. - unconfirmed though.
 

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Sums it all


Post Galwan battle, Chinese soldiers were in a state of panic


The psychological evaluation and other related tests done on Indian Army officers and jawans who were in the custody of China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) for at least 60 hours, if not more, have given significant insights into the minds of Chinese soldiers who were a part of the action in the Galwan Valley that took place on 15 June.

These 10 men, who include two Majors and two Captains, were in “surprisingly” high spirits and upbeat even after spending more than two days in the custody of China’s People’s Liberation Army.

Inputs accessed by The Sunday Guardian post the debriefing of these 10 men, revealed that the outnumbered and “unarmed” (as the rules required them to be) Indian troops, rather than retreating in view of the huge number of Chinese soldiers, grabbed the improvised clubs and rods that the Chinese were using to batter Indian soldiers, and used the same to kill “at least” 20 Chinese soldiers and officers at patrol point 14.

“This was one reason for the high morale of our troops who came back to us on Thursday. Our men were captured after they chased the Chinese into their area of domination, with the intention to kill them after hearing of the loss of their CO, Colonel Santosh Babu. The Chinese soldiers, seeing the unexpected attack from our men, started fleeing and running back to their area and were followed by our men, who were then captured”, the official stated.

The debriefing of the 10 men has also revealed that the Chinese soldiers were in a state of shock and fear after the Indian soldiers replied with “sheer fighting force” to the treacherous attack by the Chinese. During the next 60 plus hours, the Chinese soldiers were highly anxious about a possible retribution from the Indian side and were in “panic-mode”. “They (Chinese soldiers) were very scared during the time our men were in their captivity. They had witnessed raw fighting spirit just hours before, as executed by a few of our men and the Chinese soldiers were anticipating the same treatment from a much larger number of our men in the next few hours”, said an official source, who is aware of the findings of the debriefing.

According to intelligence agency sources, there was a lot of resentment on Chinese social media platforms such as Weibo over what happened to the PLA men who lost their lives on the night of 15 June. “People are sharing pictures of the funeral procession of Indian soldiers and their cremation which was done with full state honours, and are asking what happened to their own men. Not a single information has been released identifying the names and ranks of the PLA men who died on 15 and 16 June. This is causing a lot of discussions on local social media platforms”, the official added.

These revelations have confirmed the much talked about military hypothesis that the Chinese army, which has not been engaged in any real military operation that involves real opponents—and not just simulated war games which China does “loudly” for the entire world to notice—is more than likely to falter in real battlefields because they do not have any experience of what happens during a real war. “They, for the first time, on the night of 15 June, came across the real face of the Indian Army, which despite being outnumbered, inflicted fatalities on their opponents. The Chinese soldiers were horrified by what they saw”, said the official quoting a portion of the debriefing session. Troops in India and the United States, on the contrary, have been engaged in real wars and battles for decades now.
 

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