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Bhadra

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Just admit it that road from LEH to DBO is now under observation by sight and fire by PLA.
Chinese just extended their claim to entire Galwan Valley which means Ladakh is slipping out our hands.
After talking to experts because of geography it will be very difficult for us to push them back and vice versa very difficult for them to push in further.
But since Chinese has already achieved their objective so yeah we are fucked. Thanks to 5 strongman of India - NM , AS, SJS, AD, BR.
Pakistanis have already started to claim over siachen now .I dunno how we will be able to defend it given the Chinese buildup.
Take it and rub it to your face. Swallow it down your throat.
This a wrong approach of looking at things.

If the Chinese are able to observe and peep into DSDBO road by remaining in their own side of LAC, which it is, that is too bad, Then fault lies with those who planned that road 15 years ago.

Have the Chinese come to our side of LAC to interdict the road like PP14 Area which Chinese say is their side of the LAC and Indians say their side of LAC then it should be contested and all efforts made to throw them out.

Now tell us what are you trying to say...??
 

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A very good article by a Chinese on Warontherocks about why China is doing this.
1. They fear India may cut off road between Tibet and Xianjing
2. They don't want India to join US camp.
So they kill our soldiers and attack us and grab our land so that they don't want us to join US camp? That kind of shit logic only Chinese are capable of pulling out of their China!!
 

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Yes, everything is propaganda. Modi has evicted Chinese from Tibet and Aksai Chin now has highest BJP party office. Sun the Chinese will beg us atleast return Lhasa.

Modi gave up our claim lines. Sooner you realise how he saved his hide by selling Indian lives for cheap, the better. Soon GoI will be eating momo in RIC and laugh at poor soldiers who lost their lives for "territory China didn't encroach" in.
Oh man what a sell out by Mr 56”. He has sold out the country and the army just to preserve his image. What a waste of life of of our army soilders. And this is the man that bhakts go to lengths defending :frusty::frusty::frusty:. He just legitimised all CHinese claims. What a bloody cock up.
 

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we are surmising that India will gift land. one should wait till 1-3 months. Modi will not divulge what IA is going to do. do you hear any statement from china that they are attacking in India?
Any democratic country when it goes to war prepares it's public. That fact can't be ignored by USA even. Huge propaganda will be going on in run up to war. Saying they aren't in our land is exact opposite of that. You can claim that hey he didn't announce Balakote. That was a airstrike against terrorists. Not war.
 

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That was some spectacular capitulation by GoI and to say it is the official GoI stand, I only have to say 'fuck me'. What I feared last night has happened. Strange the opposition is quiet.

We will be ceding more territory to create an official IB with China, Nepal and god knows who else to settle old border disputes to buy ourselves some peace till the next dispute crops up.
You're jumping the gun. It could be a minor slip of the geopolitical tongue as Modi is not a diplomat and his words won't be crafted well enough to provide clarity even when taken out of context, and he definitely expected viewers to have the context.

Maybe he meant "no Chinese on the territory beyond status quo".

Let's also not forget that since China started this with impunity and with no regard for mutual understanding and trust, we're not bound to those either and things on the ground could take a different turn altogether than what Modi says on television for domestic audience.

Wait it out. It's still too soon to tell.
 

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Oh man what a sell out by Mr 56”. He has sold out the country and the army just to preserve his image. What a waste of life of of our army soilders. And this is the man that bhakts go to lengths defending :frusty::frusty::frusty:. He just legitimised all CHinese claims. What a bloody cock up.
Big sucker Modi provd himself
 

hit&run

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Say the enemy is at an advantageous position. What can we do? We need to still go and capture it. We have done it in the past and we will do it again. There is no other way. And let's be frank. India today can match chinese deployment at the borders due to the construction of roads in the border areas in the last few years. Had this happened say in 2013 things would have been a bit different. So let's give credit where it is required but I agree if modi chickens out and does not order a measured tactical military response I think we all can then burst his bubble and the real face of bjp and modi would be exposed. I am sure they know this too.
Speculation on possibility War or No-war is everyone’s prerogative. I want all out war including nuclear exchange.

I see all party meeting not a platform to give ultimatum to China; simply not its agenda but reassure parties.

From day one every statement made by government is on maintaining status quo. Modi’s statement shows no backing off from that position.

Occupation, incursions claims have been debunked comprehensively in last few days. The usual congi pimps have no arguments but to shift the goal posts.

Last but not least Fools talk tactics, wise logistics.

The rules of engagement have changed and build up is happening as we speak. No Indian officer is going to leave the valley dead or alive till status quo is not established.

Only question remaining is when and after how many rounds of negotiations we will go berserk.
 

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:notsure: I read on Chinese military forum that the real provocation is the bridge we just completed . Not corona or article 370 , they don't care about Pakistan either . Us building the bridge changed the status quo and apparently puts their part of valley under threat .

Not bowing down to pressure and completing it is a victory .
Well.. in that case, what a bunch of pathetic losers, we started constructing that road from 2019 itself..
 

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It's a fact Chinese are sitting on our claim areas at Pagong. By saying they aren't, he's saying that area isn't ours.
He has not legitimised it,do you expect a person like him holding such position openly declare we will throw chenes out from grey area,there is a surprise element,i will rather wait and watch for a little while,lets see
 

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Any democratic country when it goes to war prepares it's public. That fact can't be ignored by USA even. Huge propaganda will be going on in run up to war. Saying they aren't in our land is exact opposite of that. You can claim that hey he didn't announce Balakote. That was a airstrike against terrorists. Not war.
why go to war if they are not on our land?? It is a sell out.
 
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