India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[WARREN SS]

Guys I don't Trust Russians After they sold S-400 to CCP

We Should better Get IAI Iron Dome And David Sling Along With developing LR SAM And BMD's
Akash NG & Astra VL

Also Investment New gen UHF ,VHF RADARs

 

[Bhadra]

Post not directed at you but a general comment.

The way Indian have started to talk is the only concern here. One can not expect more from a generation who can drop it’s shoulders after losing just one Pilot.

The most annoying is when theses retired sarkaari pensioners with makeup on their faces start talking like this on Private channels.

In 1962 Chinese wanted to change LAC but ran away seeing more forces and fighter Jets getting ready to pound their ass. Losers couldn’t say a thing on Chinese failure of not achieving their military objective. Their territorial gains we still dispute and have sizeable military posturing to take it back all the time.

The question is not what Chinese can throw at us but how much they will take back and for how long. The Chinese invasion and land grabbing is a given scenario but their invasion and briefly holding Indian territory is NEVER going to decide the outcome. I won’t even blink an eye if few of their IBGs capture any major city on planes.

On the contrary Indian strategists want them to invade and illegally hold our lands so that the pretence of peaceful rise of China ends. Indian will make sure their emperor who is already getting spits on his face run naked seeing body bags.

One estimate says they are ready to lose 10 million soldiers. India will fulfill their wish even if we lose million more miles of our territory. Russians and American like their nukes are also counting Chinese troops.

Every dead China-man means one more Russian and American.

...........

Anyone who is struggling with handling the narrative and trembling after sniffing defeatist gas leaked by Indian louts can consult me for free.

The problem again is the strategic Impact any swift and sharp Chinese Offensive and grabbing even a small piece will have on India internally and externally...

Nehru and gang would be exonerated of their sins of 1962 and be replaced by Modi as the Guilty Man of 2020. No one will talk of the failures of ITBP but Indian Army's morale and the image will be torn asunder. Thre will be greater internal fragmentation as the Communists, Naxals , Momota and Congress would spare no opportunities to tear the country apart. Pakistan for sure would mount another offensive. Nepal will claim territories up to Delhi.

Time and moments are crucial for the safety and integrity of the nation. The Army and Airforce need to take a hard-nosed stand.... It does not matter if the loss is large or small... there must not be any loss whatsoever not in respect of claim lines, which are flexible but from the present positions...

 

[WARREN SS]

Russians Sucking up ti Xi the Pooh

Russian FM Lavrov Slams US for Trying to Pressure Beijing Over Hong Kong Security Bill

Russian FM Lavrov Slams US for Trying to Pressure Beijing Over Hong Kong Security Bill

The legislation, introduced by the Chinese government and is yet to be voted on, suggests to make treason and sedition laws stricter, banning any activities that could potentially "split the country".

sputniknews.com

 

[Bhadra]

https://twitter.com/CestMoiz/status/1264908625094389760?s=20

Chinese being aggressive and opening a front against India solely depends on how China is viewing India to be an economic as also Security competitor in Asia post COVID period?

It all depends on Chinese calculations of their losses and possible Indian advantages and means to nullify Indian advantages... In those means military offensive in case it comes to be cheaper would be undertaken...

We must also not overlook the fact that the Chinese including the PLA have a very deep and long term perspective on their national and security interests and would not hesitate to act militarily even under present adverse circumstances to attain those objectives.

There is no options for India but to be prepared to meet the challenges headon.

 

[nrj]

We must also not overlook the fact that the Chinese including the PLA have a very deep and long term perspective on their national and security interests and would not hesitate to act militarily even under present adverse circumstances to attain those objectives.

+1

However I think it'll be more of provocation based escalation, rather than specific military action. One thing Xi ensures is not blowing the situation out of proportion. Gathering everyone's attention is something China will avoid. We already see US commenting in not exactly calculated words on said aggression (somebody spent last couple of nights by the telehphone )

 

[Yash Patel]

Armed forces brief top leadership on military options for dealing with situation on China border

 

[daya]

Nehru and gang would be exonerated of their sins of 1962 and be replaced by Modi as the Guilty Man of 2020. .

Yes, but at the same time, the government mechanism i.e. bureaucracy has not been keen upto the mark which it should have been.. Modi is the only one person who is facing war on every front... kaash modi jaise log double digit me hote...

Guys I don't Trust Russians After they sold S-400 to CCP

We Should better Get IAI Iron Dome And David Sling Along With developing LR SAM And BMD's
Akash NG & Astra VL

Also Investment New gen UHF ,VHF RADARs

Russians have never been friends, they supported India in 1971 because they did have their vested interests. Sell of weapons and Cold war..

 

[Bhadra]

Om Gananam tvam Ganapattim gungavah Mahe......

 

[Bhadra]

Yes, but at the same time, the government mechanism i.e. bureaucracy has not been keen upto the mark which it should have been.. Modi is the only one person who is facing war on every front... kaash modi jaise log double digit me hote...

Russians have never been friends, they supported India in 1971 because they did have their vested interests. Sell of weapons and Cold war..

Reforming the bureaucracy would be the real independence of India. The country needs the real "Bharata Bhagya Vidhatas" and not present Day Bureaucratic bhagya Vidhatas. The selected servants can not be the harbingers of change, prosperity and development since it all involve changes, Bureacrcy by its very nature is always status quoists and even retrogressive. Bureacrcy develops deep interests in the status quo and thus becomes the largest anti-change force.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Om Gananam tvam Ganapattim gungavah Mahe......

Well he has done lot of prediction and one such thing is Trump losing the upcoming elections and china splitting into 5 nations and Modi quitting mid way in his 3rd term.....

 

[daya]

Reforming the bureaucracy would be the real independence of India. The country needs the real "Bharata Bhagya Vidhatas" and not present Day Bureaucratic bhagya Vidhatas. The selected servants can not be the harbingers of change, prosperity and development since it all involve changes, Bureacrcy by its very nature is always status quoists and even retrogressive. Bureacrcy develops deep interests in the status quo and thus becomes the largest anti-change force.

Actually the Civil and Commissioned officers system was introduced by brits for their own interests only. How could a Brit salute an Indian, so they introduced this pathetic system. Whosoever, save exception, when becomes an IAS or Commissioned officer, whatever be his background, starts thinking and behaving like RAJA Maharaja, and thus, creates so many problems. I apologize, if anyone gets offended.

 

[Hijibiji]

Well he has done lot of prediction and one such thing is Trump losing the upcoming elections and china splitting into 5 nations and Modi quitting mid way in his 3rd term.....
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It is interesting that from point 1 to 10, the astrologer does not mention war but at point 11, he mentions war for middle east!

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Yeah, a totalitarian regime usually starts rotting from the top and collapses. A democracy is rotten uniformly so the rot is spread out and is hence more stable.

Sarcasm much?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

https://twitter.com/CestMoiz/status/1264908625094389760?s=20

Such common sense posts filled with logical conclusion are not welcome in this thread.

prepare to be countered by 1962 main yeh hua tha song.

 

[Rudy123]

https://twitter.com/CestMoiz/status/1264908625094389760?s=20

That's what I mentioned few post back.
Either CCP does not want to look weak in front of their members in annual national conference.
Or PLA sees India infra development as thwarting of their war plan in Ladakh.
Therefore Chinese media not covering this issue extensively.

On what basis China will fight with India. They are stopping infra work of India under LAC demarcation which is accepted by both parties. China will be seen as aggressor at world platform which CCP does not want at this stage.

By diplomacy, solution will come out soon. But it would be interesting to see how Modi take advantage of this situation and make it more severe. One way is, to go more deep upto LAC and do parallel road construction within 5 KMS of LAC. Would like to see reaction of PLA when India announce bridge construction over pangong tso lake.

 

[Kumata]

Well he has done lot of prediction and one such thing is Trump losing the upcoming elections and china splitting into 5 nations and Modi quitting mid way in his 3rd term.....
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Who is he.. another of those american advertising his skills on TV ???

 

[fyodor]

Who is he.. another of those american advertising his skills on TV ???

A jerk making some highly general predictions and preying on his audience emotions.

"A war in middle east": When has that region not been in a war?
"Pakistan will be taken care off": What does it even mean and how will it be taken care off.
"US influence will wain": We all know that.
"Communism will collapse": No sh*t.
"Capitalism will collapse": Oh sure, we are already seeing west turning towards socialism.
"Hindu dharmik model will be only to survive": No one, not even these people know what is the Hindu dharmik model.
"Ayurveda will gain significance": Awarded the nostradamus prize right here.

His comment on Trump going into a mental asylum was hilarious. But if we have to ensure that Tibet really gets it independence then Trump is the best bet and hope that he wins the elections again. All other candidates are chinese stooges.

 

[hit&run]

The problem again is the strategic Impact any swift and sharp Chinese Offensive and grabbing even a small piece will have on India internally and externally...

Nehru and gang would be exonerated of their sins of 1962 and be replaced by Modi as the Guilty Man of 2020. No one will talk of the failures of ITBP but Indian Army's morale and the image will be torn asunder. Thre will be greater internal fragmentation as the Communists, Naxals , Momota and Congress would spare no opportunities to tear the country apart. Pakistan for sure would mount another offensive. Nepal will claim territories up to Delhi.

Time and moments are crucial for the safety and integrity of the nation. The Army and Airforce need to take a hard-nosed stand.... It does not matter if the loss is large or small... there must not be any loss whatsoever not in respect of claim lines, which are flexible but from the present positions...

Losses are unavoidable, there is no need for Indian forces, Indian polity and Indians in general to be that sensitive. Australian were ready to lose every thing above Brisbane and Perth to Japan during World War-2.

Indian political land scape has been always a story of fraud, frustration and treachery. Only BJP has consistently sided with nationalist cause. These things can be swept away as noisy democracy. Also it can be used as a deceptive instrument to show that we are a divided house. Last time they tried to unsettle Modi by supporting Pakistan on surgical strikes and other terror attacks. Probably they actively plotted it with ISI. Modi came out stronger.

 

[tarunraju]

By diplomacy, solution will come out soon. But it would be interesting to see how Modi take advantage of this situation and make it more severe. One way is, to go more deep upto LAC and do parallel road construction within 5 KMS of LAC. Would like to see reaction of PLA when India announce bridge construction over pangong tso lake.

Chinese may not want to come across as the "aggressor" at this stage, but they are capable of spinning this as an "Indian aggression" into "their" territory, while simultaneously getting Congress-pliant media in India to spin this as a "failure by Modi to stand up to China."

The Pulwama-Balakot episode has shown that whenever the actions of a foreign power threatens his domestic political image, Modi does respond.

So Modi's next moves will be tailored to deny Congress-pliant media of the argument that he's not standing up to China.

Modi is also very good at tapping into global sentiment (whether it's on terror or climate change). Right now despite the Chinese spending tens of billions of dollars each month on global media-management, it is unable to shake the organic hatred the world has toward China for COVID-19. So Modi's efforts will also be directed toward exposing China as the aggressor in Ladakh (which will be a lot cheaper to accomplish than Chinese paid news, since we're tapping into prejudice already present in the hearts and minds of people), while simultaneously holding a defiant tactical posture on the ground.

Defiance is neither aggression nor defensiveness.

 

[prasadr14]

Unless we show China we mean business, these tactics of CCP will continue.

WE MUST use our trade balance,
If our economy and supply chains suffer in short term, so be it.

China exports 75 B to India and imports 15 B.
I am certain we can negotiate with other countries, even if costs us a bit and reduce the trade imbalance.

On other hand, WE MUST recognize Taiwan ASAP.

Unless we mean business, this shit from the CCP clowns will continue.

And forget them attacking us, they don't have the balls.