India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[scatterStorm]

There are reports that faction of PLA aligned to Li keqiang has refused to obey orders of central command PLA. A big split is developing in CCP and PLA due to policies of Xi Jinping. Xi might be removed from party or be assassinated due to infighting.

Source?

 

[scatterStorm]

So this clears that Chinese are not anywhere west of fingure 4 anymore .

P-8i's maybe called in again, they were called in May. Damn, Navy at it too! Some good usage of best asset in SAR imaging.

 

[IndiaRising]

Coup coup coup. Bye bye Niazi

 

[Pardesi]

War will be costly for India, however, it will be much more costlier for China. And if India doesn't give a strong response to this current event, it will continue to be seen as a soft state and even smaller countries will keep on taking a bite of it every now and then.

I understand we Indians are very emotional and are afraid to lose people. This has a lot to do with close family upbringing and probably lots of bollywood family dramas. The scare tactics of mutilation of bodies of soldiers (by Pakistanis as well), does affect our psyche. It doesn't scare us but it makes us emotional, it rattles us. We don't want to lose men like this. This makes us more reactive in policy than proactive - except for the era of Indira Gandhi. Probably she didn't think that much of consequences, therefore she dared.

But this is not a the case with countries like China, Pakistan, America and most other countries. These countries can easily use few men as disposables for a broader national objective. Americans keep on losing men around the world all the time, but they hardly ever react emotionally such as we Indians demand after any attack on us. But then Americans keep on proactively pursue their larger objectives. They are not even afraid to lose men just to secure some cheaper oil for their country.

Anyway, back to my main point, Even though we Indians are very emotional and attached to the loved ones(including our countrymen), we are also very patriotic, much more than Chinese. Chinese national patriotism is not even close to the level of Indian patriotism. Chinese people's only affection is towards their own Chinese heritage, but not to the China mainland or Chinese communist party. Once they leave China, they are happy to speak against Chinese government and never return to China again. They will never back their government in the event of "do or die" all out war. They have lot of regional factional division as well. Hence, Chinese government can't afford a full scale war with India. They will definitely do a lot of aggressive posturing and try for a intense but short conflict but not full scale all out war. To counter this, India has to go for full scale war. Activate all of the border with China, not just Ladakh and attack eastern China especially. That's the only way to make China back off and probably to defeat them in war. Full "Do or Die" attitude.

Keep in mind, there will be damage to the economy due to war, but this damage will be much bigger for Chinese. And Chinese will never go for any war where they cannot gain substantially from it. While Americans might even see this as an opportunity to uproot communism from China, and take care of their biggest competitor as world power, once for all.

Bigger economic damage is one of the reason why India doesn't go for a war with Pakistan. They have nothing to lose compared to us. Same applies to China. They have much more to lose than us and nothing to gain. At least nothing that can help them economically. They have nothing to gain from the barren land of Ladakh and they are not definitely gonna suffer economic damage capturing Kashmir just to hand it over to Pakistan.

 

[tarunraju]

There are reports that faction of PLA aligned to Li keqiang has refused to obey orders of central command PLA. A big split is developing in CCP and PLA due to policies of Xi Jinping. Xi might be removed from party or be assassinated due to infighting.

Yes, I heard this through my Chinese contacts, too. Much of 11's gandmasti is his insecurity about Li and Jiang playing out. Xi giving himself >10 years is intolerable to a lot of powerful people within CCP.

 

[Sehwag213]

Coup coup coup. Bye bye Niazi

Is this because Pak military wants to be in control in case of war like situation?

 

[ninja hattori]

Coup coup coup. Bye bye Niazi

already he was uddhav thakeray,

where he was just PM rest every institution head was from army patronage.

I dnt think that's gonna happen as already army is getting to do what it can do without army rule.

and again they have only one man who speak anything other than inshallah boys played well in English.

 

[WARREN SS]

Chinese Positions True Positions

 

[scatterStorm]

Is this because Pak military wants to be in control in case of war like situation?

Ayi Shabash... logically, yes.

 

[IndianHawk]

Yes, I heard this through my Chinese contacts, too. Much of 11's gandmasti is his insecurity about Li and Jiang playing out. Xi giving himself >10 years is intolerable to a lot of powerful people within CCP.

Xi has already altered Chinese Constitution and has claimed place equal to Mao .
It's not easy to dislodge him .

 

[garg_bharat]

Is this because Pak military wants to be in control in case of war like situation?

Imran Khan government was never expected to last. It is clear that military wants to take over as situation in Baluchistan and Sindh continues to slip. The situation in Vaziristan is also slipping. The way state of Pakistan is; a civilian government is severely handicapped.

 

[Hijibiji]

Why did mod delete my post and dismiss it as propaganda?

I was simply sharing PLA's movement at this moment, long rang rocket artilleries are gonna play important roles in a coming conflict. Now that both sides have mobilized enough personnels and equipments to fight a war, a war seems inevitable.

I was told that IA just had exchange of fire with Pakistan and I also heard that India is having an unpleasant experience with Nepal regarding border issue, Nepal was said to deploy more troops along the border.

It seems that the 2.5 front war India has been preparing for is actually coming.

Sorry to break this to you, BUT there are Indians who already know the outcome of the war too

 

[IndianHawk]

Why did mod delete my post and dismiss it as propaganda?

I was simply sharing PLA's movement at this moment, long rang rocket artilleries are gonna play important roles in a coming conflict. Now that both sides have mobilized enough personnels and equipments to fight a war, a war seems inevitable.

I was told that IA just had exchange of fire with Pakistan and I also heard that India is having an unpleasant experience with Nepal regarding border issue, Nepal was said to deploy more troops along the border.

It seems that the 2.5 front war India has been preparing for is actually coming.

And USA has moved 3 carries on china. Have you already surrendered??

Taiwan also forced Chinese jets to run away in humiliating and Japan holds senkaku firmly.

So it's India USA Japan taiwan vs china Pakistan from your logic??

 

[garg_bharat]

Why did mod delete my post and dismiss it as propaganda?

I was simply sharing PLA's movement at this moment, long rang rocket artilleries are gonna play important roles in a coming conflict. Now that both sides have mobilized enough personnels and equipments to fight a war, a war seems inevitable.

I was told that IA just had exchange of fire with Pakistan and I also heard that India is having an unpleasant experience with Nepal regarding border issue, Nepal was said to deploy more troops along the border.

It seems that the 2.5 front war India has been preparing for is actually coming.

Your post does not add any value here I am afraid. There is no new/important information contained in your post. We are perhaps as much aware of ground situation as you (or maybe better).

 

[Mindrapper]

Coup coup coup. Bye bye Niazi

I dont think these Pakistanis would allow any govt to complete their term!

 

[Godhimself]

sheer stupidity, who is making such silly decisions!

 

[afako]

Guys beware about Chinese tactics.

After video surfaced about Indian soldier beating the hell about Chinaman, they came up with a fake photo of Indian soldiers wounded and tied by India.

Now again when narrative is in Indian favour about 43 Chinese killed and lost, they will come up with fake stories and photos via the likes of Ajay Shukla Pakis and weird Chinese sites about more Indian casualties, more barbaric account of the event with lots of masala. The intention is to demoralize Indians and prevent any further conflict.

They know they don't want to mess. It was more of a hul which went too far.

Trust the Govt. Trust Modi. He will not buy this crap and will pay back.

 

[WARREN SS]

Update:

Spoiler: Related to Finger 4

Which means, we don't give two fucks, we will stay here, do what you can do.

LOL He is a Fake Its not Indian New camp Site Is already mentioned by
d-ati
Is chinese one Which Why Whole point Of Contention OSINT You guys are Trapped in his Misinformation

 

[TheMayank]

sheer stupidity, who is making such silly decisions!

alag hi hai inka bhai, Meerut-Delhi wala mein Chinese investment, TikTok account. Hadh hi hai.

 

[Aaj ka hero]

which ones?

Can't tell now, I want to show the picture, so you have to wait.