India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Sehwag213]

Tai is giving some other Gyan. Doesnt look like war chest talk will happen

Why would you announce war chest openly ?
That would be declaration of war.

 

[ezsasa]

If they were carrying arms, then I can easily say there are atleast 50 Chinese troops casualties. No way you are not going to use arms when your colonel was beaten to death.

So far info is, no shots fired.
if shots were fired, PLA would have used it to their advantage by now. that's what they do, they use every opportunity to forward their strategic goals.

 

[IndiaRising]

Ananth sir gives clarity. No Indian troops Missing in Action

 

[ladder]

More clarity on whether Indian Army patrolling team are carrying weapons or not at the time of the incident (Galwan back stabbing by Chinese) in area PP14 Ladakh

'ALL' and 'always' should not have been used. The few clips doing rounds here does contradict the two words above.

 

[Mindrapper]

India wont take military action that's for sure.

Only thing that can make India make a military move is another deadly night like 16 june

India in the last 4 Years has changed its working style. I am sure you will witness a loud and clear message.

 

[Sehwag213]

So far info is, no shots fired.
if shots were fired, PLA would have used it to their advantage by now. that's what they do, they use every opportunity to forward their strategic goals.

Both sides are hiding something. I think none of them want war. Chinese clearly miscalculated India's response assuming we won't retaliate (Covid-19)

Now there is no easy way out because of 15 june incident.

 

[right wing]

that is even worse. so indian troops r not allowed to fire in self defence even after they r attacked by lethal weapons

Yea they were calling modi while the Chinese were pushing us in the valley for permission.

 

[Brood Father]

Why did mod delete my post and dismiss it as propaganda?

I was simply sharing PLA's movement at this moment, long rang rocket artilleries are gonna play important roles in a coming conflict. Now that both sides have mobilized enough personnels and equipments to fight a war, a war seems inevitable.

I was told that IA just had exchange of fire with Pakistan and I also heard that India is having an unpleasant experience with Nepal regarding border issue, Nepal was said to deploy more troops along the border.

It seems that the 2.5 front war India has been preparing for is actually coming.

Lol.. Let me put this into your thick skull.. We don't have to win the war but we will make sure china loses.. You think we are scared of war. Lol.. We can happily sacrifice our life for the country.. Question is can you?... What will happen when your fellow comrades come in body bags

 

[ezsasa]

that is even worse. so indian troops r not allowed to fire in self defence even after they r attacked by lethal weapons

There is a 25 year old agreement not to use fire arms.

 

[Jailor]

that is even worse. so indian troops r not allowed to fire in self defence even after they r attacked by lethal weapons

Yes, its even worse for chinese when they left a chinese soldier under Indian boot being stomped on yet they didn't fire.
Hopeless chinese under Xhe pin minnjin

 

[IndianHawk]

Chinese being humiliated left and right. Lol. How do Chinese handle so much humiliation.

 

[another_armchair]

'ALL' and 'always' should not have been used. The few clips doing rounds here does contradict the two words above.

... and he is a seasoned, experienced bureaucrat.

 

[IndianHawk]

Chinese being humiliated left and right. Lol. How do Chinese handle so much humiliation.

Also post that too paki forums and ask them why don't they stop rape of alla by chinese.

 

[Apollyon]

How are the relations between Indian and Nepalese Army? any ill sentiments?

 

[IndiaRising]

interesting. I didn’t know this. Air Marshal PK Barbora reactivated DBO airstrip without govt permission back in 2008. How incompetent was the UPA?

 

[rock127]

The Chinese want a 1962 type situation where they got "50 years of peace". It was a short war. Although Chinese retreated from many positions (because they couldn't hold them) they'd achieved their objectives. India was cut down to size and demoralised.

There are other parallels. In 1962 rest of the world was busy with the Cuban missile crisis. Right now there's Covid19 and domestic unrest in USA.

However, I feel China has miscalculated. In 1962 PLA was a battle hardened force under Mao, this time the roles are reversed. War won't be against the entire Chinese war machinery. China has powerful adversaries in the East, they can't move the bulk of troops here from that front. Also, I'm hoping that we'll use this opportunity to push defence reforms which have been pending since Kargil

62 resulted in serious thinking on military infra and we increased our military 2 times. Just 3 years later Pakis attacked us and got surprised beating as they thought we would be recovering from 62. Their ammo was 80% exhausted and we exhausted hardly 20%. Just matter of days saved Pakis of another serious humiliation even before 71.

2020, India is already ramping up infra since few years but this skirmish just makes us firmly believe we are on right track and expedite our preparedness.

Also PUBLIC can see that Congress/Commis Ltd + tukde-tukde gang who have not condemned China in equal voice but raising fingers at our own and shedding crocodile tears on brave jawans. Public is slowly waking up from Chinese products hangover and hopefully Chinese products can be significantly decreased and we realize why our PM declared Atmnirbhar Bharat campaign even before this skirmish. Govt already canceling many contracts so now we have good excuses for self reliance and shun foreign maal. Overall this would help India in the long run.

Our Govt & brave Soldiers are doing their duty, so the common people SHOULD know their duty towards the nation.

Wars unites a nation!

 

[TheMayank]

 

[samsaptaka]

People dnt get it,

we ate PL 480 even when americans told why didn't buy it from Pakistan in 1960s after two famines followed by a drought,

we have swallowed humiliation, and ate that stinky wheat.

Even when Pakistan was developing at high growth rates and still defeated just after 1962 when they had the most sophisticated weaponry in there arsenal thanks to there NATO alliance still we defeated them.

If anyones to draw parallel draw it with 1965 not kargil.

Pakistan was what china is today, he was called Asian tiger and was posing more growth rates than any other countries in asia.

Let the man at the front feel that even if the times come we all will take even kitchen knife as last resort but wont let the the honour go down.


That's all for the pessimism in this thread.

Yes, we are in here for the long haul, and have survived the longest so far. Sometimes we have lost some battles (PoK, 1962) but have managed to win the wars (where is the failed state of porkistan now, and where are we ?) . In the long haul I don't see the thugs of CCP still controlling the chinks. CCP will go the way of the USSR and others. But till then we have to fight and win most of the battles , like the one we are in right now.
Remember - sometimes when the mind is confused, Dharma looks like Adharma and Adharma like Dharma....

 

[Sehwag213]

I think we should block social media and tv reports in case war breaks out. Our side will start chest beating in case of few losses and other side won't admit their loss.

 

[IndianHawk]

How are the relations between Indian and Nepalese Army? any ill sentiments?

Nepali army chief is honorary general to Indian army and chinki think Nepal will fight India. Lol.