India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Godhimself]

If I was the enemy I would keep feeding you false news and in between that authentic news, so that you keep on questing the govt. all day and put pressure on them to make mistakes.

Lets not be an echo chamber, but also not put stuff here from anywhere and accept it as gospel of truth, and even if it was, don't expect the tide to turn so quickly. The last thing we want to fall is in a trap.

Anything in SM be it positive news and negative news can only be taken with a pinch of salt.

Lets just act responsibly.

Here ppl start jumping when they see random 30 chinese names as casualties but completely reject map which shows indian and chinese positions.

 

[IndianHawk]

Need to do the same. Tit for absolute tat.

Even if we already did worse who is going to report that ?? Chinese.? Stop seeking validation.

 

[scatterStorm]

Let's ask GT times editor,

1. To come over there side of LAC,
2. Be smacked by spiked batons and thrown over to a cliff with sharp rocks.
3. Then his dead soul would write an article... I digress.

 

[Shredder]

Even if we already did worse who is going to report that ?? Chinese.? Stop seeking validation.

Don't jump the gun. I am not seeking any sort of validation lest of all from the enemy.

 

[Mangal]

You didn't post what you knew about the incident. Perhaps you can tell now.

 

[here2where]

is it true our guys were ordered not to use firearms to defend themselves during patrols? facts please. no retorts.

 

[IndianHawk]

Don't jump the gun. I am not seeking any sort of validation lest of all from the enemy.

There will never be a confirmation of how many Chinese we killed and how we killed them so that whole thing is pointless.

Only proof in the end is who holds what territory.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

You didn't post what you knew about the incident. Perhaps you can tell now.

I knew this only..

mutilations and some soldiers were taken in chinese camp and beaten.

They didnt want to return the soldiers.

Aur kya janna he?

 

[IndianHawk]

 

[IndianHawk]

is it true our guys were ordered not to use firearms to defend themselves during patrols? facts please. no retorts.

Both sides haven't been using firearm since 1996 agreement.

 

[TheMayank]

 

[Waanar]

There is something that must clarified here.

There are some inane messages here saying that Indians are Chicken hearted, that they will fold at the first 100 or 1000 bodies.

This is absolute BS. The people are clamoring. There is no doubt about that.

But what ARE they CLAMORING FOR ?

They are not clamoring for stopping war, or are moving with Posters saying, NO WAR, ONLY PEACE Cuck BS like hippies during Vietnam war.

They are clamoring for VENGEANCE. Indian public is not clamoring and cursing the govt for having these casualties. They are not clamoring for removal of Modi becoz he mismanaged relations with China.

They are DEMANDING blood. CHINESE blood.

Even the most pacifistic peacenik politico in India cant afford to say PEACE openly or he will be LYNCHED.

Most people on this forum understand this. Modi understands this. NSA Doval understands this. He mentioned as such in a public meeting some years ago. About how despite almost a constant stream of bodies coming form Kashmir courtesy the diseased pigs to the west, there has been no public outcry in the civil society whining about losses.

He said and i quote " Do not underestimate Indian strength "

Because when it comes to tolerance for casualties we dwarf even America in its appetite for war.

The people who are whining about how Indian public will chicken out also understand this. Its just that they are the political actors who are firing from the shoulders of the Veers ( May Indra receive them in Veeraswarga as befitting a Warrior ) and their families.

This whining is constant, despite explanations and hints and therefore could only be deliberate.

I request the mods to clear these posts or atleast warn them.

Indian public is ever ready for war. They just need to be convinced that it is necessary and that there are no other options. Thats why you see the MEA saying BS like " De escalation " Not because they like it, but because they NEED to. To prepare the public for what is to come.

There will be a response to this. Believe it.

Remember what Modi said in Parliament.

" Doubt anything else, but do not doubt my ability as a politician "

Very well said.

As for the gentlemen concerned about pushing beyond finger 4 at the heavily manned and guarded areas with bunkers, a simple plan I think the military planners must be thinking already-

We won't be attacking those (yet).


Chill, we're in good hands and this is eerily similar to the post Pulwama bombing scenario (regarding emotions).
I like the man, so it pains me to say but I'll say it anyway- If China doesn't leave those areas and Modi submits, there's a good chance there will be not just a political suicide in the waiting but also an actual threat of him being lynched by a crowd.
Now, @Hellfire put it best- Politics comes first, national interest later.
Here, both are aligned pretty perfectly.

There will be war.
Just not at the places Chinese are expecting it.

Now look, I love the military like hell and would die for it in a heartbeat. I love the soldier and I love my fellow patriots but if the war breaks out and we suffer heavy casualties and the TV screens fill up with black plastic bodybags being unloaded from the trains like during Kargil, I do NOT want to see that stuff here.
To hell with the dhoti shivering. Please learn to compartmentalize and dissociate when getting emotionally riled serves no purpose.

Just putting it out there in advance. After Wing Cdr. Abhinandan's capture, I saw our true weakness and it needs to be snuffed out.

Please. Have the ability to digest heavy losses.

 

[IndianHawk]

This for all those idiots who claim Chinese have altered the lac!!

Fact is Chinese are trying to grab grey area and we are not letting them hence the conflict .

Is it clear now or more idiocy remains??

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Koi yeh Burkha Dutt or ndtv ko chup karao bhai... Sir mein dard hone laga hai ab to.

 

[Sehwag213]

I have read somewhere that Chinese had built road from F5 to F8. So if the road building part is correct, how can we claim we have lost territory? Didn't we lose territory when Road was being built?

 

[sachincba]

1. I guess military- Army, Air Force and Navy has already been given the freedom to fight the way they want and mobilize accordingly.
2. Modi on Friday shares in all party meeting that we are ready for war, let us be united.
3. India warns Chinese to vacate from all occupied territory or face war.
4. Fighting begins with full preparation

 

[Mindrapper]

Well so its official, no more momos for me.

 

[revenge002]

I want to tell every dfi members remember they occupy our territory so do not lose your moral here it's our territory and we going to tack it back whatever we going to sacrifice don't get confuse it's our land.

 

[yourgodisweak]

With time, the need for a war has changed. Nowadays you only go to war as the LAST resort.

The army is under political control for a reason & at the end of every day the politician will try to remain/gain power. No politician will go to war because some of his country soldiers are KIA, if he does, he will lose power because war will only bring poverty & pain even if its a victory.

Majority of Indian population just dont care about whats happening to/in the country. They just want to wake up, work & prosper. Mr.Modi very well knows this & him, his party wouldnot want to stay out of power.

 

[IndianHawk]

I have read somewhere that Chinese had built road from F5 to F8. So if the road building part is correct, how can we claim we have lost territory? Didn't we lose territory when Road was being built?

Because we patrolled on the fucking road that chinkies build.