India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Sehwag213]

100 soldiers will fight 200 and there would be 0 chinese casualties.
And Indian army left colonel to die there.
Indian colonel was involved in breaking equipments.
Never seen a worst story.

 

[Sehwag213]

This story is right there with Pakistan's Balakot story where nobody died but they kept their air space closed for 1 month and took journalists to their place after 30-40 days.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Yes, this is the day 1 news circulating in our cyber, just 1 hour after news of 20 Indian solider killed.
I didn't translate here because it's also not confirmed, but for last two days more and more evidences made me believe it's possible partly true.

What more Chinese think tanks believes what is your side of story on escalation and de escalation?
What is Goin on in china?

 

[utubekhiladi]

Written by Govinda

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/16/deadly-border-clash-should-end-indias-delusions-about-china/

surprisingly well balanced and to the point article written by her.. usually she writes in favor of extremist and far left

 

[ezsasa]

Yes, this is the day 1 news circulating in our cyber, just 1 hour after news of 20 Indian solider killed.
I didn't translate here because it's also not confirmed, but for last two days more and more evidences made me believe it's possible partly true.

One problem with this version is, what are excavators doing working in the middle of de-escalation.
secondly in satellite images of 16th June, there are no excavators anywhere in the scene along atleast 5-6 km stretch within the chinese side.

 

[rockdog]

Looks like this is the version they are circulating within china..
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The Chinese soldiers 0 died and The seriously injured have been transported. Indian soldiers crossed the border to hit the Chinese construction team. Two workers who were driving excavators didn't run away and were beaten. Other workers came back to inform the Chinese soldiers. More than 200 large forces with shields and sticks beat up more than 100 Indian soldiers who were still doing damage at the construction site. As a result, the battlefield situation turned upside down. At first, there was only one person bleeding, but later, the Indian army was unable to withstand the three sieges and fled under the hillside. The Chinese side began to throw stones. Some of the escaped Indian soldiers fell into the river or into the pit. In the evening, the soldiers who fled back to the Indian army dared not come to look for people. After reporting to the senior officers, they asked the senior military palace to coordinate the rescue, which delayed the whole night. So yesterday, freezing death and bleeding death were added

Yes, this is the day 1 news circulating in our cyber, just 1 hour after news of 20 Indian solider killed.
I didn't translate here because it's also not confirmed, but for last two days more and more evidences made me believe it's possible partly true.

What evidence?

OK, i hope there won't be any personal insulting to me here, i am OK with any logical dicussion.
That's why i was watching here for two days but not said any for avoding bad mouthing.

The first image repeated the whole story of Mr ezsasa's version, maybe the translatioin was from there.
The 2nd and 3rd images are different resources within two days, also said no one dead.


2. In our military forum, this is no single thread talking about death of anybody, all articles were talking about 0 death. Some dicussions about the the whole story.

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-超级大本营军事论坛-最具影响力军事论坛 -

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-≡ 超级军事区 ≡-超级大本营军事论坛

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,超级大本营军事论坛

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3. If you really check the each words of our foreign minister talked with yours, filtering those "emotional" part, he used the word "punish the person who raise this incident", not "punish the murder of this incident". The Chinese lanuage is quite accurate language, most netizen on our side think this is the implication for there is no one dead.

4. these two images are shown the PLA side were quite prepared on such kind of fighting.
From the casualties report, it firstly said 3 killed, and few hours another 17 killed. It means those 17 are missed and found in the other places not in the "battlefiled". From our discission, the whole team from India side just collpased, that's why Indian soliders ran away and some of them felling into the river and cliff during the night.

5. China really dosen't want a full war with India at this time. If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society. If you look back to history, PLA not only returen all the POWs to Indian, but also with all the weapons during 1962 ...

6. India-Sino conflict for past two days are not even in our top5 news on weibo.com; the government in internal even dosen't want people's attention on this matter. And this is not a single weibo said there is any death.

Those are the info for two days from my side, again please no personal insulting.

 

[rock127]

Ok so I noticed a interesting thing in this conflict at Wiki ie. Nepal added against India.

So someone is playing around in this wiki and making it 2 front war. Soon someone would add Pak, BD, SL, Burma, Penguins from Antartica etc also since they have/had some "issue" with India.

2020–2021 China–India skirmishes - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[garg_bharat]

Well Chini sena has not come all the way from it's garrisons in central China to Ladakh to pull back easily. Chini prepare for several years (and maybe decades) before they launch an operation. It is clear they are ready to take losses.

I steadfastly support Indian army and Indian government. Our options are limited and choices are hard. Let's pray we always stay on God's side and we are able to defeat the enemy.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society.

Buddy
Whole agenda of this conflict is to bring humiliation for india in SEA and in indo-pacific.
And to stop the development on LAC Chinese want to showcase that they are asymmetric power in the region.
If global time can post 10 videos a day to boost that PLA is strongest force on earth and post 10 videos of mobilization i dunno why they will not post more about this incident.

 

[ezsasa]

OK, i hope there won't be any personal insulting to me here, i am OK with any logical dicussion.
That's why i was watching here for two days but not said any for avoding bad mouthing.

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The first image repeated the whole story of Mr ezsasa's version, maybe the translatioin was from there.
The 2nd and 3rd images are different resources within two days, also said no one dead.


2. In our military forum, this is no single thread talking about death of anybody, all articles were talking about 0 death. Some dicussions about the the whole story.

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-超级大本营军事论坛-最具影响力军事论坛 -

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-≡ 超级军事区 ≡-超级大本营军事论坛

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提示信息 - 超级大本营军事论坛 -

,超级大本营军事论坛

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3. If you really check the each words of our foreign minister talked with yours, filtering those "emotional" part, he used the word "punish the person who raise this incident", not "punish the murder of this incident". The Chinese lanuage is quite accurate language, most netizen on our side think this is the implication for there is no one dead.



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4. these two images are shown the PLA side were quite prepared on such kind of fighting.
From the casualties report, it firstly said 3 killed, and few hours another 17 killed. It means those 17 are missed and found in the other places not in the "battlefiled". From our discission, the whole team from India side just collpased, that's why Indian soliders ran away and some of them felling into the river and cliff during the night.

5. China really dosen't want a full war with India at this time. If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society. If you look back to history, PLA not only returen all the POWs to Indian, but also with all the weapons ...

Those are the info for two days from my side, again please no personal insulting.

Then chapter close, There is no issue for you what so ever. It's not like whatever being discussed outside of china will ever reach the people living within.

 

[Sehwag213]

The above story still can't explain how colonel died ? What was he doing there.
And if ridge collapsed only soldiers of 1 country died ?
And why would India send 100 soldiers to break equipment. It can easily be done by 10 to 20 soldiers.

 

[garg_bharat]

OK, i hope there won't be any personal insulting to me here, i am OK with any logical dicussion.
That's why i was watching here for two days but not said any for avoding bad mouthing.

View attachment 50475View attachment 50476View attachment 50477

The first image repeated the whole story of Mr ezsasa's version, maybe the translatioin was from there.
The 2nd and 3rd images are different resources within two days, also said no one dead.


2. In our military forum, this is no single thread talking about death of anybody, all articles were talking about 0 death. Some dicussions about the the whole story.

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-超级大本营军事论坛-最具影响力军事论坛 -

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-≡ 超级军事区 ≡-超级大本营军事论坛

lt.cjdby.net

提示信息 - 超级大本营军事论坛 -

,超级大本营军事论坛

lt.cjdby.net

3. If you really check the each words of our foreign minister talked with yours, filtering those "emotional" part, he used the word "punish the person who raise this incident", not "punish the murder of this incident". The Chinese lanuage is quite accurate language, most netizen on our side think this is the implication for there is no one dead.



View attachment 50478

View attachment 50479



4. these two images are shown the PLA side were quite prepared on such kind of fighting.
From the casualties report, it firstly said 3 killed, and few hours another 17 killed. It means those 17 are missed and found in the other places not in the "battlefiled". From our discission, the whole team from India side just collpased, that's why Indian soliders ran away and some of them felling into the river and cliff during the night.

5. China really dosen't want a full war with India at this time. If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society. If you look back to history, PLA not only returen all the POWs to Indian, but also with all the weapons during 1962 ...

6. India-Sino conflict for past two days are not even in our top5 news on weibo.com; the government in internal even dosen't want people's attention on this matter. And this is not a single weibo said there is any death.

Those are the info for two days from my side, again please no personal insulting.

The Chinese people live on lies and China does not have freedom of expression. No free press exists in China. Your government is used to misleading its people.

 

[Brood Father]

OK, i hope there won't be any personal insulting to me here, i am OK with any logical dicussion.
That's why i was watching here for two days but not said any for avoding bad mouthing.

View attachment 50475View attachment 50476View attachment 50477

The first image repeated the whole story of Mr ezsasa's version, maybe the translatioin was from there.
The 2nd and 3rd images are different resources within two days, also said no one dead.


2. In our military forum, this is no single thread talking about death of anybody, all articles were talking about 0 death. Some dicussions about the the whole story.

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-超级大本营军事论坛-最具影响力军事论坛 -

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-≡ 超级军事区 ≡-超级大本营军事论坛

lt.cjdby.net

提示信息 - 超级大本营军事论坛 -

,超级大本营军事论坛

lt.cjdby.net

3. If you really check the each words of our foreign minister talked with yours, filtering those "emotional" part, he used the word "punish the person who raise this incident", not "punish the murder of this incident". The Chinese lanuage is quite accurate language, most netizen on our side think this is the implication for there is no one dead.



View attachment 50478

View attachment 50479



4. these two images are shown the PLA side were quite prepared on such kind of fighting.
From the casualties report, it firstly said 3 killed, and few hours another 17 killed. It means those 17 are missed and found in the other places not in the "battlefiled". From our discission, the whole team from India side just collpased, that's why Indian soliders ran away and some of them felling into the river and cliff during the night.

5. China really dosen't want a full war with India at this time. If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society. If you look back to history, PLA not only returen all the POWs to Indian, but also with all the weapons ...

Those are the info for two days from my side, again please no personal insulting.

I asked you about evidence and you are showing Chinese posters and some non related pic.
Again asking you what evidence that Chinese have 0 casualty.
Let's be clear about one thing it's not about Chinese casualty that we are concerned about its the land that is more important and for that trust me mate we are ready to lay down our life for the motherland

 

[WARREN SS]

OK, i hope there won't be any personal insulting to me here, i am OK with any logical dicussion.
That's why i was watching here for two days but not said any for avoding bad mouthing.

View attachment 50475View attachment 50476View attachment 50477

The first image repeated the whole story of Mr ezsasa's version, maybe the translatioin was from there.
The 2nd and 3rd images are different resources within two days, also said no one dead.


2. In our military forum, this is no single thread talking about death of anybody, all articles were talking about 0 death. Some dicussions about the the whole story.

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-超级大本营军事论坛-最具影响力军事论坛 -

中国不公布伤亡人数明显是降温让三哥有台阶下-陆军版-≡ 超级军事区 ≡-超级大本营军事论坛

lt.cjdby.net

提示信息 - 超级大本营军事论坛 -

,超级大本营军事论坛

lt.cjdby.net

3. If you really check the each words of our foreign minister talked with yours, filtering those "emotional" part, he used the word "punish the person who raise this incident", not "punish the murder of this incident". The Chinese lanuage is quite accurate language, most netizen on our side think this is the implication for there is no one dead.



View attachment 50478

View attachment 50479



4. these two images are shown the PLA side were quite prepared on such kind of fighting.
From the casualties report, it firstly said 3 killed, and few hours another 17 killed. It means those 17 are missed and found in the other places not in the "battlefiled". From our discission, the whole team from India side just collpased, that's why Indian soliders ran away and some of them felling into the river and cliff during the night.

5. China really dosen't want a full war with India at this time. If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society. If you look back to history, PLA not only returen all the POWs to Indian, but also with all the weapons ...

Those are the info for two days from my side, again please no personal insulting.

Biggest Joke of the century


You guys don't have
Gaul to Participate in Combat sports
In Olympics they are talking about combat

You are talking hand to hand combat

You probably has no access to Free social media
That is why you are buying This version

PLA is not known for accepting figures
You didn't
In 1962 or 1967
Not against Vietnam
Nor against USSR

You casualties are like your COVID counting

 

[utubekhiladi]

ITBP getting ready to deploy men at 47 additional border outposts along LAC

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

 

[Sehwag213]

We should trust chinese 0 casualties figure just like their covid 19 numbers and how it didn't originate in China.

 

[rockdog]

I asked you about evidence and you are showing Chinese posters and some non related pic.
Again asking you what evidence that Chinese have 0 casualty.
Let's be clear about one thing it's not about Chinese casualty that we are concerned about its the land that is more important and for that trust me mate we are ready to lay down our life for the motherland

There is no direct evidence since the casualty was not released yet, but indirect evidence are circulating on cyber, you can judege by your own. I know in this forum people don't want to believe any bad news for IA.

I said 0 death, but there are casualties: 2 serious injured and 3 are lighter.

 

[garg_bharat]

Let us be clear that Chinese government will never give correct version of events to its public. This country lives on propaganda.

The challenge for India is how to navigate will full knowledge of the situation.

 

[WARREN SS]

There are no direct evidence since the casualty was not released, but indirect evidence are circulationg on cyber, you can judege by your own.

I said 0 death, but there are casualties: 2 serious injured and 3 are lighter.

Chief editor of Global times
Did not agree

Then there is Independent
Verification by US intelligence

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2020-06-16/dozens-killed-as-india-china-face-off-in-first-deadly-clash-in-decades%3fcontext=amp

Chinese Military Suffers Casualties in Clash With India-Global Times Editor

The Chinese military suffered casualties in a border clash with Indian soldiers, the editor-in-chief of China's Global Times newspaper said on Tuesday.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Sehwag213]

So 100 indian soldiers could injure only 5 chinese soldiers. And they ran away without giving a fight.
So we were breaking chinese equipment with bare hands . We didn't have anything to fight with.