India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Mikesingh]

I have lost hope now.
India will never get UNSC, if it ever did I will cut off my dic*
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I won't go all that far but I certainly will eat my Mexican hat and shave my balding head too!

 

[Gandaberunda]

Meanwhile on Weibo (equivalent of Twitter) this post is viral:

 

[ezsasa]

And what was the follow up? "Howdy Modi" and "Kemcho Trump" being media spectacles. The west knows how to restore its writ in the hearts and minds of Indians.

There are really two key triggers to the current pissing-contest and potential moshpit, rock-war, whatever.

1. India cock-blocked predatory Chinese investments into Indian firms as markets tanked due to COVID-19. Chicoms would've mopped up at least $100 billion in assets (which would have generated $1 trillion in value by 2030), and Delhi probably got whiff of the Chinese enticing RIL. In the weeks following the cock-block, RIL sold $10 billion worth stakes to various American firms. And I wouldn't be surprised if the west mopped up tens of billions of dollars worth stakes in just the past couple of months.

2. India echoed the Australian call for the NCoV origin probe.

Chicoms knew of our construction activities in Ladakh for years.

no disagreement.

but one thing though, for Asia to be the dominant force in this century there should be constant engagement within Asia as a whole.

even if there are disagreements And competition , there should be ongoing dialogue between the the two Asian giants.

Baki sab game chalta rahega..

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Chinese have C-130? Hain yeh kubh hua?
I have never seen Chinese airforce using C-130 aircraft


Bro Chinese airforce don't even have C-130 aircraft.

Samaj liya karo bhai yeh Chinese copy hai.

 

[tarunraju]

no disagreement.

but one thing though, for Asia to be the dominant force in this century there should be constant engagement within Asia as a whole.

even if there are disagreements And competition , there should be ongoing dialogue between the the two Asian giants.

Baki sab game chalta rahega..

RCEP is fulfilling the role of being a laxative to the west, but agree with the rest.

 

[Gandaberunda]

I have written about this aspect in other threads here. We have given no importance to this important aspect of 5th gen warfare that relates to propaganda and information warfare to accomplish geopolitical, diplomatic, strategic, operational, and tactical objectives.

We sorely need a wing within the I&B Ministry that deals with it on a holistic basis. It's beyond comprehension as to why we are still not according priority to this in spite of the PR disaster post 27th Feb. We need to learn from the Pakis who are past masters in propaganda and 5th generation warfare.

The role, or rather the potential, of the ISPR has been severely underestimated in the Indian strategic circles. It is the crucial pivot of conflict escalation and de-escalation and is tasked to undertake information operations, military deception and strategic communications. We don't have anything even coming close to this setup.

We are going round in circles trying to counter Pak's propaganda which has resulted in our getting a bad press from leading media houses like The Washington Post, Reuters, NW Times, Al Jazeera, BBC and so on. And a bad press means a falling reputation around the world. The PTB may not take much heed of the press but the people who are impressionable do become opinionated.

We don't need clowns like ISPR. Having only 1 spokes person who doesn't have geographical idea will be disaster like ghafool and Indian circle are vary of it. But we need to have our respective head to speak out if any propaganda happens in his theatre. Like any propaganda peddled in LoC should be addressed by chinar corps head similarly along LAC/ Chinese border eastern command head should address. If the matter is severe in nature Army chief should get involved swiftly. But we have negligible media presence and politicians think army shouldnt speak out to general public or press often. Neither politicians do not they leave army to handle untill damage is done. We have to use IW - wing under CDS to counter enemy propaganda/ IW wrt to armed forces as he represents Tri services now.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

WS 20 engine is at flight testing stage. Even if the engine isnt working out for them what matters is that they have made an attempt and are keeping up the hustle.

So why aren't we, would it hurt to manufacture fuselage here.

which is more Robust tell me.

India	China
17 IL 76	23 IL 76
6 C 130	9 C 130
11 C 17	48 Y 20
105 An 32 (39 passenger, 6.7 ton)	60 An 12 (90 passenger, 20 ton
	43 An 24
	10 Y 9

China doesn’t Operate C-130 Super Hercules but you can compare Y-20 to C-130

 

[ezsasa]

RCEP is fulfilling the role of being a laxative to the west, but agree with the rest.

haha!!! In post Chinese virus world RCEP itself might become toothless.

Singapore, RCEP are on my list of things I wish India would do ass whopping in my lifetime.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

haha!!! In post Chinese virus world RCEP itself might become toothless.

Singapore, RCEP are on my list of things I wish India would do ass whopping in my lifetime.

Have faith brother we might witness.!!!

 

[Gandaberunda]

I want India to ass whomp Chinese and capture entire Tibet. Our holy place Kailash parvat to be made Indian Territory! In my lifetime!

 

[ezsasa]

Shiv Shankar menon's take on things...

 

[cereal killer]

Meanwhile on Weibo (equivalent of Twitter) this post is viral:

This is pure BS propaganda by CCP showing India as invaders to gain mass support in China.

 

[IndianHawk]

Meanwhile on Weibo (equivalent of Twitter) this post is viral:

LMAO . Now would ajai Shukla report this. What happened to his 5000 Chinese. Lol.

There are barely 100 shitty tents 4-5 soldier per tent equals 500 . Is this the great Chinese invasion ??

I will take china seriously when they would capture Taiwan. If they can't dare to fight Taiwan those losers can't dream to face the wrath of Indian armed forces . Bwhahaha.

 

[IndianHawk]

This is pure BS propaganda by CCP showing India as invaders to gain mass support in China.

Eh ! You think they'll come our side and we won't enter their side! Two can play a game .

 

[Gautam Sarkar]

Singapore, RCEP are on my list of things I wish India would do ass whopping in my lifetime.

Singapore ?!?!

This is pure BS propaganda by CCP showing India as invaders to gain mass support in China.

Bolne do. Sabko victim baneka mauka hona chahihe.

 

[IndianHawk]

Shiv Shankar menon's take on things...
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I have been saying this all along. Chinese are out of their depth again . Why don't people listen to me it will save a whole lot of time. Lol.

 

[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

The response from govt is always lethargic! In this case when initial reports were made by media about incertions or troops logger head at LAC Indian Army/ Govt took it lightly and didn't provide any official information! This led enemy to beef up narrative and now when damage is done still govt didn't come up with its version and now in damage control or reactive to enemy propaganda. Need of the hour now is not what happening in LAC nor any civilian understands laymen terms or history of conflict or geography of ladakh. Civilian go by the narrative (either false or true) and Indian govt failed to give a narrative to general public and enemy succeeded to do. These reports of Indian soldiers flogged of in lake is highly demoralising or disappointing for general public. . Feb 27 was highly embarrassing seeing media specualtion and coverage without any official narrative from GoI. When we will start being proactive in information warfare! Atleast set a narrative whenever tension brew up Politicians only care to do political propaganda briskly to score points over rivals but when it comes to Army/GoI they go into hibernation. I&B ministry is waste of time and space and resources!

I agree with you The primary People responsible for the this debacle is the Leftist propaganda media and Government inaction to address the public about current threats coming from China but It is my belief that Government didn’t want to provoke the Chinese by issuing a statement that’s they didn’t release any information regarding the incidents but it has back fires with the Leftist media going full on dhoti shivering. Yes Feb 27 had the same problem Indian Leftist media like shitty Quint and Print made article such as Indian Generals ran away from there base before Paki Aircraft came with there dud bombs.

Indian Army commanders left Brigade HQ ‘minutes before’ PAF bomb fell in compound 27 Feb

Pakistan has claimed bomb was dropped near Brigade HQ in Rajouri to show its capability. India believes PAF actually planned to hit the facility.

theprint.in

These are literally putting propaganda points right in mouths of the Pakis for free. Indian leftist media is out of control causing damage to India were ever they can without a second thought.

 

[IndianHawk]

One more thing. Chinese have utterly miscalculated Indian governments resolve.
They think we will accept any imbalance in border situation lol. We won't stop building infrastructure untill we absolutely dominate tibet . Not just infra. We won't stop building forces capabilities untill we have total superiority.

If china wants to tie down India it will have to move majority of pla against India so in the end china is tied down with India. They are slowly learning south China Sea and Japan are a joke compared to challenge that India is going to impose of chinkies. Lol .

2 bjp mp have attended Taiwan presidents ceremony.
Philippines is getting bramhos.

Chinese have screwed up big time.

 

[ezsasa]

I have been saying this all along. Chinese are out of their depth again . Why don't people listen to me it will save a whole lot of time. Lol.

HERO IS BRO!!!!

 

[Bhadra]

Even if China attacks India and thrashes us..and proves that we are a very weak nation also then also it doesnt help china in any case.

The world will go more against china and these are the times that a war will be the final nail on the coffin of china.

I highly doubt china would do that.

That is How Krishna Menon and Nehru thought prior to 1962... What good will it be of China attacking India? What can they take from India? How can Communists attack an anti-Colonial, nonaligned democratic nation?

That is exactly how Nehru made the statement " ..will throw them out... ".

But China attacked and threw out Nehru from this world... USSR and USA watched from the sidelines or rather they did not even look because they were busy wielding nuclear missiles at each other in Pig Bay of Cuba.....

The IB and Indian police forces having created all problems in Ladakh from 1950 ran away and poor bloody Indian Army which had earned an image for itself all over the world including in China was routed in unprepared shallow trenches all over Ladakh and NEFA and decimated by Chinese artillery barrages...