India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[ARVION]

Do we require such a tank against Chinese light tanks and BMPs..?? 105mm gun of vijayant is good enough with better ammunition...

the question is that of cost and vaialiablity... our fetish with horses must be moderated considering more important task os artillery and infantry modernisation..
Start with upgraded engine Vijayant without opposition and then leave upgrades for the future..

The present military situation goes well beyond to prove that India must have an all terrain platform rather than terrain specific tanks... Having almost rejecetd Arjun for heavy weight Indian Army has no option but to settle for 45 - 50 ton tanks which suits all terrains.. build a case for raising an additional armed brigade rather than playing games with tanks..

The proposal to build tank out of Vajra with 120mm guns that way is nothing less than proposal to acquire new tanks in the name of mountains... That would be taken as a smart act..

The proposal was actually sent for the FRCV requirements to replace the aging 1,700 T 72's so the proposal was made accordingly to it

 

[TheSeeker!]

The defence professional u have been quoting has his own agenda. At least none of his descalation crap has any evidence in reality . So stop quoting and posting his tweets

Why don't you take it up with the defence professional whose words I've quoted here?

Ask him those questions. I'll wait to see the interaction on that Twitter thread.

 

[Skyh3ck]

Just posting..india can have upper hand... With first strike on any unavoidable war

At 07:45 on June 5, 1967, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) under Maj. Gen. Mordechai Hod launched a massive airstrike that destroyed the majority of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground. Following Syrian, Jordanian, and Iraqi attacks in retaliation, the Israeli Air Force proceeded to bomb air bases in those countries. By noon, the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian Air Forces, with about 450 aircraft, were destroyed. It was also very successful in disabling 18 airfields in Egypt, hindering Egyptian Air Force operations for the duration of the war, and remains one of the most successful air attack campaigns in military history.

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Operation Focus - Wikipedia

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[Bhadra]

Many don't know that bullets were fired and many Chinese soldiers were killed during Somdorog Chu incident in 1986-87.

Ashish Top: Army officer scales peak, stumbles across outpost named after her dad | India News - Times of India

India News: A young woman lieutenant in the Indian Army, posted in Tenga, Arunachal Pradesh, was on an initiation tour recently, which took her to a post at Kyaph

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He remembers it was Onam when he, along with a small party, set out to return to base when they realised that the PLA
was after them. Das (then a captain) opened fire at the Chinese, which forced the latter to give up the chase.
The men remained there for three days without food. "There
would be heavy firing at night followed by white flares during the day and parleys with the local Chinese political
commissar," Das recalled.

Yes ... the names of the posts there as I rember run like this=

Post Tagra Raho. Bhayatur, Badlu Ram, Ashish Top. Sulu La. Forward. Laedge, Nalla etc all ASSAM Regt names...

 

[WARREN SS]

Just posting..india can have upper hand... With first strike on any unavoidable war

At 07:45 on June 5, 1967, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) under Maj. Gen. Mordechai Hod launched a massive airstrike that destroyed the majority of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground. Following Syrian, Jordanian, and Iraqi attacks in retaliation, the Israeli Air Force proceeded to bomb air bases in those countries. By noon, the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian Air Forces, with about 450 aircraft, were destroyed. It was also very successful in disabling 18 airfields in Egypt, hindering Egyptian Air Force operations for the duration of the war, and remains one of the most successful air attack campaigns in military history.

Copies from Wiki

Operation Focus - Wikipedia

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Chinese Has Heavy Air Defense

Its better To Let them come And Face Phalcons And MKI's Combo

Pakistan copied Same operation Named Operation Chengiz Khan

Operation Chengiz Khan - Wikipedia

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[utubekhiladi]

China Stubborn on Pangong, PLA Also Spotted in Uttarakhand & HP

some extracts

Why PM’s Visit to Leh is Crucial?
Highly placed sources suggest that the PM has chosen to visit Leh after an impasse in negotiations with the Chinese. In the last Lt Gen-level meeting, the discussion over disengagement reached a dead end.

The Chinese side seems to have agreed to disengage soldiers at Patrolling Point 14, 15 and 17 near the LAC in Ladakh. This is the stretch that goes south from Galwan Valley to the Hot Springs Area. According to sources, the PLA is willing to withdraw a few hundred metres east from India’s perceived LAC.

Chinese Patrols Within Indian Territory in Other Sectors

Sources have also shared that Thuraya satellite phones used by the Chinese have also been intercepted to be within Indian territory in other sectors. Last week, India intercepted the presence of Chinese patrols in Shipki La twice. This region, a mountain pass, falls in Kinnaur district of Himachal Pradesh and runs to Ngari Prefecture in Tibet. Both the times they were at least 15 kilometres inside the Indian territory.

Apart from that, Chinese transgression into the Indian side was also intercepted in Barahoti, Uttarakhand. It needs to be remembered that the same Barahoti area was in news because of Chinese incursion in 2018 as well. At least three Chinese incursions were attempted in 2018 along this border. PLA soldiers were located four kilometres inside the Indian side in August 2018.

PM’s surprise visit to Leh, therefore, may be seen as a stern message to China that India is serious about checking continued transgressions of Chinese troops along the LAC. There has been little to no development in terms of actual withdrawal since the talks on 29 June. An army source says, “They (the Chinese) are where they were, we are where we were.”

Officially Speaking, Where Do We Stand Now?
A slew of satellite images from the region suggest that there has been a relentless amassing of Chinese troops despite the talks of disengagement and de-escalation.

China Stubborn on Pangong, PLA Also Spotted in Uttarakhand & HP

India China Face-Off: PM Narendra Modi visits Leh and interacts with soldiers during ongloing tensions with China. While post-May 2020 status quo continues in Ladakh, China tries to grab land in other sectors.

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[IndiaRising]

The proposal was actually sent for the FRCV requirements to replace the aging 1,700 T 72's so the proposal was made accordingly to it

what options do we have against J16D?

 

[ARVION]

Do we require such a tank against Chinese light tanks and BMPs..?? 105mm gun of vijayant is good enough with better ammunition...

the question is that of cost and availability... our fetish with horses must be moderated considering more important tasks of artillery and infantry modernization..
Start with upgraded engine Vijayant without opposition and then leave upgrades for the future..

The present military situation goes well beyond to prove that India must have an all terrain platform rather than terrain specific tanks... Having almost rejecetd Arjun for heavy weight Indian Army has no option but to settle for 45 - 50 ton tanks which suits all terrains.. build a case for raising an additional armed brigade rather than playing games with tanks..

The proposal to build tank out of Vajra with 120mm guns that way is nothing less than proposal to acquire new tanks in the name of mountains... That would be taken as a smart act..

On the quandary a proposal was made for the Upgraditiones of the Vijayant tank with modern 105 mm OFB DRDO gun with new suspension and new electronics with explosive armour and new automatic 12 mm weapon systems and auto loader by a l & t team but it is still on a proposal stage with the coat estimated to be 7 crores per tank that means for the 400 reserves tank would cost almost 2,800 crores and remember it's a rifled gun system

 

[ARVION]

what options do we have against J16D?

We have ECM's deployed at the ladakh and AP

 

[Super lca]

Slave supporting the master

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Pakistan reiterates support to ''One China Policy''

As if anybody cares

 

[LETHALFORCE]

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China breached the Hong Kong Handover deal – it’s time the UK acted like it

 

[Super lca]

Just posting..india can have upper hand... With first strike on any unavoidable war

At 07:45 on June 5, 1967, the Israeli Air Force (IAF) under Maj. Gen. Mordechai Hod launched a massive airstrike that destroyed the majority of the Egyptian Air Force on the ground. Following Syrian, Jordanian, and Iraqi attacks in retaliation, the Israeli Air Force proceeded to bomb air bases in those countries. By noon, the Egyptian, Jordanian and Syrian Air Forces, with about 450 aircraft, were destroyed. It was also very successful in disabling 18 airfields in Egypt, hindering Egyptian Air Force operations for the duration of the war, and remains one of the most successful air attack campaigns in military history.

Copies from Wiki

Operation Focus - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

.

Times have changed bro now we have awacs and ground surveillance 24×7 not like those days when sirens were the only source

 

[Assassin 2.0]

First time indian diaspora doing something pro india.
I was tired of seeing porks with green toilet paper flag.

 

[ewok.sama.ji]

The defence professional u have been quoting has his own agenda. At least none of his descalation crap has any evidence in reality . So stop quoting and posting his tweets

What's his agenda?

 

[utubekhiladi]

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The chini are war gaming today at UAR with the Artillery's

what is this?

 

[ARVION]

what is this?

Artillery particle on massive scale with at least 100 artillery taking part in the war game's

 

[Yeloblu]

"Yuuge" if true

 

[Skyh3ck]

Long time back .. I came to know that all Chinese origian animal especially Pandas are property of China.. they can be given as loan to Zoo around the world but their babies and that species only belongs to china and they can ask them back anytime..

Also they do not alllow some of their plants and herb seed to go outside china.. it's nearly impossible to get those plants and seeds to snuggle outside china

China does not want their natural resources their animals etc to go out of their country they are very protective about it.. it gives them upper hand at many level.. world depend on the..
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And here we gave away Gir cow to world freely.. neem, turmeric, ashwagandha.. we all gave it away...

 

[LETHALFORCE]

"Yuuge" if true

India working behind the scenes.

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

Porki have six awacs
India has two netra and three phalcon
Chintu has 20 awacs

Why India believe that God will come to help them because they have ahimsa parmo dharam cap on their head

Why don't they know God help those who first help themselves