Skirmishs at LOC, LAC & International Border

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[MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00]

The Porki Hijada Army Artillery Positions and Ammo storages are all located in Civilian Areas in POK but Porkis are always hiding positions and casualties.

 

[lcafanboy]

So Pakistan army has lost a few high ranking officers. Sounds true since pak-is were planning something Big for retaliation but backed off seeing and fearing India's posture.....

Frontalfire (@Frontalfire) Tweeted:
If only 1 Hen died in 11th April strikes, why Pak accounts & trolls are talking about a 'response' & 'retaliation'. Pain is real & while the country doesnt know much, it was at a level where many senior crows & trees were also uprooted. https://t.co/hKEDBHMsP1 https://t.co/y27c0JXIvQ

There were several screen shots of many Pakistanis demanding of retaliation and several handles mostly from PA responding of assured retaliation...

 

[Indx TechStyle]

From "War" to "War Like" to "Conflict" to "LIC" to "Tansion "and Now " Skirmish"
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When one can not overcome and mange a situation and wish to underplay it because it is diificult to answar then change the narrative. Or if one wishes to hide the truth, obscure the realities then understate a thing like a child trying to underplay a knife wound to his Mom by calling it just a cut.

That is very old tactics of hiding the realities, your sins or some one elses sins. Americans and the West are the master in this kind of perception management wherein they have been hiding their dirty wars, mercenary massacres, proxy struggles and occupation and regime change Wars as "conflicts", "COIN". "LIC" and various such low sounding names.

On India - Pakistan border, there has never been moments of peace. Lakhs of soldiers with their guns, cannons, mortars, missiles and deadly terrorist have been each others blood. Rates of casulties is amongst highest in any battle zones. There have been five wars astride the LC.

Indians have a high moral ground and justification for their defending actions and has not been a status quo change side. Still we call that high intensity war like situation by various degraded names such as border conflict, LICO, LIC, just conflict etc etc. The reasons have not always been due to national considerations.

But, Lo ! and behold,

The "Forum" or rather DFI has decided to name it as "Skirmish". May I know why someone thought that atack on Army bases, fierce Arty duels, cross border raids, pounding defense posts and positions, ambushes, IED blasts, terrorism, infiltration, killing of civilians, heavy stone pelting, crass ani nationalism etc are "Skirmishes" ... ????? So someone thinks our boys are just indulged into Skirmishes .... Wah bhai Wah...

Can some one spill his pearls of wisdom on that ???

May you suggest us a better title for thread in that case?

The thread was actually created for tracking skirmishes along LOC, LAC and international borders. Case is different that members started to cover in Kashmir operations as well on same thread.

 

[lcafanboy]

So medical aid HCQ dimplomacy giving results....

 

[Yash Patel]

The PoK Campaign & the Virus Outbreak: India's Two Front War


Military campaign for recapturing #Pakistan occupied Kashmir (#PoK) has emerged as an urgent strategical need of India to ensure its internal security & territorial integrity

 

[lcafanboy]

Kashmiri terrorist got away 25 yrs ago, caught with ISKP chief in Afghanistan

Here is one more biting the dust....

 

[sorcerer]

The PoK Campaign & the Virus Outbreak: India's Two Front War


Military campaign for recapturing #Pakistan occupied Kashmir (#PoK) has emerged as an urgent strategical need of India to ensure its internal security & territorial integrity

We need to take this BIO JIHAD into consideration very seriously.
there is chance that the jihadis in India will create a situation using the bio weapons while we are pounding pakis.

There should be total surveillance on this jihadis kind plus kick out the jihdadi sympathizers and stooges from the top echelons of the establishment , police force etc etc.
Ensure that the jihadis are devoid of information and leverage from the inside

 

[ezsasa]

From "War" to "War Like" to "Conflict" to "LIC" to "Tansion "and Now " Skirmish"
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When one can not overcome and mange a situation and wish to underplay it because it is diificult to answar then change the narrative. Or if one wishes to hide the truth, obscure the realities then understate a thing like a child trying to underplay a knife wound to his Mom by calling it just a cut.

That is very old tactics of hiding the realities, your sins or some one elses sins. Americans and the West are the master in this kind of perception management wherein they have been hiding their dirty wars, mercenary massacres, proxy struggles and occupation and regime change Wars as "conflicts", "COIN". "LIC" and various such low sounding names.

On India - Pakistan border, there has never been moments of peace. Lakhs of soldiers with their guns, cannons, mortars, missiles and deadly terrorist have been each others blood. Rates of casulties is amongst highest in any battle zones. There have been five wars astride the LC.

Indians have a high moral ground and justification for their defending actions and has not been a status quo change side. Still we call that high intensity war like situation by various degraded names such as border conflict, LICO, LIC, just conflict etc etc. The reasons have not always been due to national considerations.

But, Lo ! and behold,

The "Forum" or rather DFI has decided to name it as "Skirmish". May I know why someone thought that atack on Army bases, fierce Arty duels, cross border raids, pounding defense posts and positions, ambushes, IED blasts, terrorism, infiltration, killing of civilians, heavy stone pelting, crass ani nationalism etc are "Skirmishes" ... ????? So someone thinks our boys are just indulged into Skirmishes .... Wah bhai Wah...

Can some one spill his pearls of wisdom on that ???

These are skirmishes because a “war” needs both sides to declare it, and pak will not declare war with India unless there is fundamental change in their doctrine.

Let’s not forget even Kargil was technically a skirmish, a big one but still a skirmish.

Since paki army is weak in math & economy subjects, they will never declare a war with India. They think their doctrine is working, and are not willing to accept that their doctrine is keeping their own country poor.

And this will continue to be called a skirmish, until a new terminology is created for our scenario.

 

[Mikesingh]

And regarding manpower, these Terrorist groups train much more people than required in action. And BTW If you have a nation ready to die for jihad why you need to think about manpower?? There's too much manpower available, too much!!

There are 30,000 madrassas, small and big in Pak. Radicalism is taught here from an early age. Even if one from each of these madrassas becomes a terrorist, the Pak ISI would have an army of 30,000 jihadis per year swelling the ranks of the terror groups in Pak, which needless to say, is in the ivy league of terror.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

There are 30,000 madrassas, small and big in Pak. Radicalism is taught here from an early age. Even if one from each of these madrassas becomes a terrorist, the Pak ISI would have an army of 30,000 jihadis per year swelling the ranks of the terror groups in Pak, which needless to say, is in the ivy league of terror.

I don't think only 1 or a couple of kids will become terrorists.
Most of madaraaahs in Pak, especially on Northwestern, eastern and northeastern side are made exclusively for generating terrorists.

 

[ezsasa]

I don't think only 1 or a couple of kids will become terrorists.
Most of madaraaahs in Pak, especially on Northwestern, eastern and northeastern side are made exclusively for generating terrorists.

Terrorism is not just about chaps picking up guns, it’s also about the support infrastructure.

-the fund Collectors
-the shelter providers
-the propaganda division
-the trainers
-the informers
-the OGW
-the political backers
-the rally organisers

Etc etc...

This whole thing takes a lot of Human Resource..

 

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2 more terrorists killed today......

 

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[Mikesingh]

I don't think only 1 or a couple of kids will become terrorists.
Most of madaraaahs in Pak, especially on Northwestern, eastern and northeastern side are made exclusively for generating terrorists.

Right! I was meaning a conservative figure of one per madrassa! There could be 10 or more per madrassa. That means a mind boggling number of potential terrorists running into lakhs!!! That's why, the more you kill, the more are spawned.... like a goddamn sausage factory!

But since the ISI does not have the wherewithal to equip, house, train and feed these hordes, they are forced to keep the level controlled to a few thousand only. The remainder are kept as reserve stock and inducted as and when required.

 

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[Gandaberunda]

These are skirmishes because a “war” needs both sides to declare it, and pak will not declare war with India unless there is fundamental change in their doctrine.

Let’s not forget even Kargil was technically a skirmish, a big one but still a skirmish.

Since paki army is weak in math & economy subjects, they will never declare a war with India. They think their doctrine is working, and are not willing to accept that their doctrine is keeping their own country poor.

And this will continue to be called a skirmish, until a new terminology is created for our scenario.

Well then it's good India should do skirmish like kargil and induce cost on Napakis. Begging bowl won't sustain 4-5 days of skirmish in skardu/GB

 

[LurkerBaba]

FYI There's an existing thread about generic discussions on the Pakistani State. Let keep OT content to a minimum https://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/pakistans-ideology-and-identity-crisis.439/page-59

 

[sorcerer]

I don’t understand the point of new Trashmiri Terrorist Groups? Doesn’t this split the Manpower flow into the traditional big three jihadi groups and also create factionalism between all the Terrorist groups? They would have to fight each other to gain new recruit unless these new Terrorist groups were created to recruit from the local Islamic Gurjar-Bakarwal Population who have pro Porki sympathies.

For the terrorists its more like a terror franchise..its a business where they try to sell ideology and emotions.
They are created to operate in certain geographical areas.. So the ISI franchise it to different locations..give it a new head. and may be under the command of some guy and desk in ISI.
Also..when these terrorists have some issues with parent organization mostly for the bitching on funding or commission it receives from them or simply as ideological difference they create new factions..or they are put in a new grouping.
The crux of the matter is...
no matter what they all needed to be eliminated.