Pakistan's naval buildup is quite concerning.

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Some times I believe these all are porki accounts operating under disguise to spread disinfo few days ago one more porki here was making funny claims. Lol our naval modernisation is going well planned and covering almost every thing.

Don't abuse, I have been here a long time .

 

[fire starter]

Yes please tell me what soon means to you - 1 year or 3 year or 5 years or a decade. Varunastra is not equipped on any submarine as of now. They have 3 submarines from France with aip . Yes Chinese Aip is no match but they still have aip while ours don't. I am not talking about coastal batteries genius but surface launched and submarine launched missile. And even then there ones have more range than our Brahmos er .

Lol brahmos can be launched from both surface and ship Mr paki and our current submarines also have mix of Russian and French missiles.

 

[fire starter]

Don't abuse, I have been here a long time .

Yes I know u r bitching here for long.

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Lol brahmos can be launched from both surface and ship Mr paki and our current submarines also have mix of Russian and French missiles.

Again not understanding anything . When did I ever say Brahmos can't be launched from surface. I just say they have longer range than brahmos simple. And they also have the same missile from France too

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Yes I know u r bitching here for long.

Its not called bitching but facts. You are welcome to prove me wrong.

 

[hawwk]

Again not understanding anything . When did I ever say Brahmos can't be launched from surface. I just say they have longer range than brahmos simple.

AGNI - V be like:

 

[Jimih]

Surprisingly this thread is quiet. I guess posters are wasting time talking politics on a defence thread.

PN has signed a deal to get 10 Sea Kings from Qatar navy, whether for spares or extra ones is unknown at the moment.

Pakistan has signed atleast 13 new frigates and 8 new subs at the moment. It's looking at 25 modern boats at the moment while Indian ship building has slowed down that our IN is smaller than ROK or Japan navy.

upcoming

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

AGNI - V be like:
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In cruise missiles he is right , babur missile has greater range than brahmos

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Ek min check karne do

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

AGNI - V be like:
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Yes you will launch agni 5 from submarine and ships . We are talking about cruise missile not ballistic missile. We have 3. Brahmos Russian club missile and lastly France exocet

 

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Yes you will launch agni 5 from submarine and ships . We are talking about cruise missile not ballistic missile. We have 3. Brahmos Russian club missile and lastly France exocet

Yes , cruise missile me we are weak.
Their raad and babur both have greater range.
But we do opeartw kh 35, p 270 moskit and ss 20 Styx missiles too

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

Yes , cruise missile me we are weak.
Their raad and babur both have greater range.
But we do opeartw kh 35, p 270 moskit and ss 20 Styx missiles too

All missiles you mentioned have lesser range than brahmos itself. And p15 is retired.

 

[hawwk]

Yes you will launch agni 5 from submarine and ships . We are talking about cruise missile not ballistic missile. We have 3. Brahmos Russian club missile and lastly France exocet

India is developing Nirbhay which is said to have 1000km range.
Talking about present time -
Both BrahMos and Babur has different capabilities, one chose distance that might be easy to intercept/destroy if India buys some good defence system. Other has speed which can't be intercepted to this date.

 

[Poseidon]

Surprisingly this thread is quiet. I guess posters are wasting time talking politics on a defence thread.

PN has signed a deal to get 10 Sea Kings from Qatar navy, whether for spares or extra ones is unknown at the moment.

Pakistan has signed atleast 13 new frigates and 8 new subs at the moment. It's looking at 25 modern boats at the moment while Indian ship building has slowed down that our IN is smaller than ROK or Japan navy.

The Qatari Sea Kings are between 37-41 years old.
So 100% sure they will be used as spare parts source

 

[Abhay Rajput 02]

India is developing Nirbhay which is said to have 1000km range.
Talking about present time -
Both BrahMos and Babur has different capabilities, one chose distance that might be easy to intercept/destroy if India buys some good defence system. Other has speed which can't be intercepted to this date.

Yes you are right about speed, but you should remember that USA primary anti ship missiles are subsonic. . If they are good enough for us then they are good enough for Pakistan Plus Pakistan cannot stop Brahmos missile but they certainly can fire first with longer range missiles.
Also Barak 8 can intercept supersonic missiles .

 

[Rakesh4600]

Yes but there submarine capability is better than ours . There submarines comes with aip and better torpedoes. They are also upgrading antiship missiles which will match our Brahmos er range of 450km.

See countries which have detected chinese subs claims that they are very noisy under water and in comparison to indian subs, they are made using a single hull design, which decrease the noise also exocet anti ship missile have been operational in our subs. Chinese subs are no match to scorpene.

The main problem is the no. of subs in chinese fleet, they can totally out no. us in a long conflict.

 

[Rakesh4600]

In cruise missiles he is right , babur missile has greater range than brahmos

Babur was made by reverse engineering the tomahawk missile which fell in pakistan.

 

[Lost user]

Yes you are right about speed, but you should remember that USA primary anti ship missiles are subsonic. . If they are good enough for us then they are good enough for Pakistan Plus Pakistan cannot stop Brahmos missile but they certainly can fire first with longer range missiles.
Also Barak 8 can intercept supersonic missiles .

It does not really matter that Babur can theoretically target ships at 700 kilometers.. The Babur would take 42 minutes to travel 700 kilometers.. First of all detecting ships especially stealth ones maintaining radio silence, at such ranges of 700 km, is very difficult.. Second, Pakistan has the situational awareness and Kill Chain necessary to target a moving Ship after 40 minutes at travel..? Not a chance..
The Babur's long range is an edge, only against land based targets..

 

[Rakesh4600]

It does not really matter that Babur can theoretically target ships at 700 kilometers.. The Babur would take 42 minutes to travel 700 kilometers.. First of all detecting ships especially stealth ones maintaining radio silence, at such ranges of 700 km, is very difficult.. Second, Pakistan has the situational awareness and Kill Chain necessary to target a moving Ship after 40 minutes at travel..? Not a chance..
The Babur's long range is an edge, only against land based targets..

Are you an idiot???


Babur is a land attack cruise missile it uses gps. How can it even hit a moving ship . IT CANNOT HIT A SHIP AS IT IS NOT A ANYU SHIP IT IS A "LAND ATTACK CRUISE MISSILE"

It will be like hitting a tank with a JDAM.

 

[Lost user]

Are you an idiot???


Babur is a land attack cruise missile it uses gps. How can it even hit a moving ship . IT CANNOT HIT A SHIP AS IT IS NOT A ANYU SHIP IT IS A "LAND ATTACK CRUISE MISSILE"

It will be like hitting a tank with a JDAM.

Hey Moron.. Pakistan test fired the Harbah.. the anti ship variant of Babur in 2018...