Pakistan's naval buildup is quite concerning.

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Well, they were also approx figures anyway, and in any event are effected to a great deal by external factors like water temp, salinity, windspeed etc.

The point is more broad - a huge comparative power deficiency for a ship of overall same size.

Why is it so? I'd say it's all about doctrine. The way the PLAN wants to use its FFGs (screening task forces, point air defence & ASW), they don't require a lot of motive power. The ones the DO require all that power would be the CODAG/CODOG-equipped DDGs like 052C/D which would be the main surface/anti-air combatants in any task force and therefore the main sea-control assets.

But the problem only becomes pronounced when these FFGs are being used as flagships/main surface combatants by likes of Pak Navy, and going up against vessels that would be enjoying a significant power advantage in surface combat.

This is not what the 054A class was designed for.



It's not just about speed - but about how quickly you can attain that speed, how long can maintain that speed etc etc That's where the power advantage comes in.

The hull refinements can help to make the ship more fuel-efficient, but effect is very marginal in the broader picture. The disparity here is brought on by doctrinal differences - not necessarily design ones.
You have misunderstood the combat purpose of the Pakistan Navy. The 054A frigate is an extension of the air defense network in southern Pakistan, not a weapon for a decisive battle with the Indian Navy. The 054A will not leave the combat radius of F16 and JF17. The 054A is the most basic area air defense ship, 054A is very suitable for Pakistan Navy
 

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You have misunderstood the combat purpose of the Pakistan Navy. The 054A frigate is an extension of the air defense network in southern Pakistan, not a weapon for a decisive battle with the Indian Navy. The 054A will not leave the combat radius of F16 and JF17. The 054A is the most basic area air defense ship, 054A is very suitable for Pakistan Navy
In that case, a modified 056 corvette with same VLS (last 2 supplied to Bangladesh already have the same radar) would have been a far more cost-effective solution.
 

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In that case, a modified 056 corvette with same VLS (last 2 supplied to Bangladesh already have the same radar) would have been a far more cost-effective solution.
Ya'll Nibbiars there is already the Light frigate based on the designs exported to the Algeria.
 

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In that case, a modified 056 corvette with same VLS (last 2 supplied to Bangladesh already have the same radar) would have been a far more cost-effective solution.
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32 HQ16B, 70KM range, semi-active radar guidance, 056 is too small to fit, and HQ16 uses NP90 Fire control radar, 056 sold to Bangladesh should not have this radar,You said that this AESA should be set up, mainly for searching the sky,
You should be talking about this AESA, which is mainly used to search the sky.
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Bangladesh's 056 is equipped with this radar
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32 HQ16B, 70KM range, semi-active radar guidance, 056 is too small to fit,
Seems to me enough space is available, perhaps number could be fewer though.

and HQ16 uses NP90 Fire control radar, 056 sold to Bangladesh should not have this radar,You said that this AESA should be set up, mainly for searching the sky,
You should be talking about this AESA, which is mainly used to search the sky.
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Bangladesh's 056 is equipped with this radar
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Yes I mean the SR2410c APAR - that's what gives 054AP the edge, rest of the systems are same as 054A. The APAR is the primary multifunction radar that would perform air surveillance otherwise the FCRs wouldn't know what to target and where the target is.
 

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These subs will have worlds best steriling engines recently chinese succesfully conducted testes can perforn better than swdeish steriling system
 

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These subs will have worlds best steriling engines recently chinese succesfully conducted testes can perforn better than swdeish steriling system
Sterling Engines are old tech and should be noisier and less efficient than fuel cell AIPs or Lithium Ion batteries. However having them is better than not having an AIP installed.
 

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We should attack and sink PN while we still can without losing enough. Later it will be bloodier for us, would still win though.
These morons will do some big terrorist attack again some day. Just tell everyone we are doing surgical strikes through Navy this time.
The target will be Millitary this time as cross-border terrorism is sponsored by pak Millitary. The aim will be to deter pak military from future state sponsored terrorism officially. But real target would be to annihilate PN entirely.

Plz excuse brevity and errors. I am high.
 

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Sterling Engines are old tech and should be noisier and less efficient than fuel cell AIPs or Lithium Ion batteries. However having them is better than not having an AIP installed.
india already using producing these ebgines produce power for batteries
 

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These subs will have worlds best steriling engines recently chinese succesfully conducted testes can perforn better than swdeish steriling system
Oh look at this what Pakistani bhundiyas are showing in this video..🤣

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Pakistani naval buildup will not stand the first battle shot as everything acquired from China is third rate, worthless stuff. It is all hastily made with reverse engineering and technology copy as their creed.
 

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