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Hitler is proud to see that his Waffen SS has better helmet than 2023 Indian Infantry
Filipinos got their asses whooped for a short while by ISIS wannabes and it transformed their entire military, IA has been fighting the same clowns for over 30 years and the IA still looks relatively the same as they did in the 90s, what’s the difference?

And these aren’t even their SOF, just marine infantry. Also proof it’s not just about the equipment- look at how these guys are moving and operating, high readies, solid shooting stances (c clamps) etc. not one Indian unit has ever shown this level of tactical proficiency, NSG (arguably the most proficient shooters in india) still grip their weapons by the freaking mag

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Filipinos got their asses whooped for a short while by ISIS wannabes and it transformed their entire military, IA has been fighting the same clowns for over 30 years and the IA still looks relatively the same as they did in the 90s, what’s the difference?

And these aren’t even their SOF, just marine infantry. Also proof it’s not just about the equipment- look at how these guys are moving and operating, high readies, solid shooting stances (c clamps) etc. not one Indian unit has ever shown this level of tactical proficiency, NSG (arguably the most proficient shooters in india) still grip their weapons by the freaking mag

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Sometimes I feel like India needs there own Marines someone here mentioned few days ago about how navy wanted to use marcos as infantry due to lack of marines maybe it was @Jedi Operator
 

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Sometimes I feel like India needs there own Marines someone here mentioned few days ago about how navy wanted to use marcos as infantry due to lack of marines maybe it was @Jedi Operator
Raising of a Marine Corps was part of the Naresh Chandra Committee and locating it in the Andaman & Nicobar Command (ANC) too needs to be given due consideration, which will also assist the ANC and dilute to some extent the present disadvantage of the ANC looking to the mainland for troops that may be unworkable in the emerging strategic environment given ANC’s vast regional responsibility and possibilities of the IOR heating up. Navy’s case for raising a Marine Brigade is lying with the government for over two decades now

Ultimately MARCOs themselves refused to be used in such a way and thus their numbers didnt expand and are still less than 1000. Their job is only limited to hydrographic and amphibious recce and beach recce. Earlier when they were CD trained, they'd do similar taskings
 

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Filipinos got their asses whooped for a short while by ISIS wannabes and it transformed their entire military, IA has been fighting the same clowns for over 30 years and the IA still looks relatively the same as they did in the 90s, what’s the difference?

And these aren’t even their SOF, just marine infantry. Also proof it’s not just about the equipment- look at how these guys are moving and operating, high readies, solid shooting stances (c clamps) etc. not one Indian unit has ever shown this level of tactical proficiency, NSG (arguably the most proficient shooters in india) still grip their weapons by the freaking mag

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Kashmir insurgents weren’t clowns in the 90s and 00s. They were very well trained, disciplined, and came from all over. PoK, KPK, Afghanistan, chechenya, etc etc. Back day infiltration parties use to enter in parties of hundreds. You know why they don’t anymore right? Because army men would ambush them even after they finished infiltrating, or before.

The IA infantrymen and SF had great tactical acumen back in the90s.

Nowadays they are fighting WORSE insurgents and still making worse tactical mistakes than they did.If anything, I’d argue that theyused to deal with ambushes better in the 90s, tho it was more common as they were thousands and thousands of terrorists. Like it’s retarted how dumb they are now
 

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Raising of a Marine Corps was part of the Naresh Chandra Committee and locating it in the Andaman & Nicobar Command (ANC) too needs to be given due consideration, which will also assist the ANC and dilute to some extent the present disadvantage of the ANC looking to the mainland for troops that may be unworkable in the emerging strategic environment given ANC’s vast regional responsibility and possibilities of the IOR heating up. Navy’s case for raising a Marine Brigade is lying with the government for over two decades now

Ultimately MARCOs themselves refused to be used in such a way and thus their numbers didnt expand and are still less than 1000. Their job is only limited to hydrographic and amphibious recce and beach recce. Earlier when they were CD trained, they'd do similar taskings
So navy still wants marine corp? Can we see it happening in future after theatarization next year?
 

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20% of India already does, minus the lost territory in Pakistan and Bangladesh and even Kashmir now. Now with genrols making Indian soldiers African tier equipped, it seems that only a miracle can save the Indians
Fun fact if you add up the GDP of top Ten Sub-Sahara African nations GDP. It would roughly be equal to that of India (tad bit less) with a smaller population.

Nothing demeaning when you accept the reality & work for a better future.

Miracle wouldn't save Indians Nuclear bombs will. 🙃
 

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Fun fact if you add up the GDP of top Ten Sub-Sahara African nations GDP. It would roughly be equal to that of India (tad bit less) with a smaller population.

Nothing demeaning when you accept the reality & work for a better future.

Miracle wouldn't save Indians Nuclear bombs will. 🙃
You will use nuclear bombs after the ww2 equipped army of the Indian military gets overrun by China in a week? Nice to know!
 

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You will use nuclear bombs after the ww2 equipped army of the Indian military gets overrun by China in a week? Nice to know!
If China could over run India with in 1 week.

What's holding them back ? 😏

Didn't they try some shenanigan in East Ladakh using the Covid situation & failed.
 

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NSG are a national level contingency force, they shouldn’t be getting involved in every Tom dick and Harry police job. It’s right that they’ve been reserved for only the worst level operations so far, they said they should’ve been employed more in JK instead of the Paras (EDI I will keep saying again and again). What’s the point in NSG having all their intervention kit if paras with their full length M4s and homemade plate carriers are going to launch frontal assaults in the daylight?

everything has watered down since the 80s, the Indian military are just a bunch of generalists now, there’s very few actual specialties that only some can do anymore. Everyone is a commando, everyone is a para trooper (all have their maroon berets don’t they?) everyone is an assaulter etc etc

NSG is the one force that’s been able to keep their mission rather undiluted but of course because of empire building and egos they are barely used and when they are used the esteemed IA generals b!tch and moan that the same job should’ve been given to an infantry battalion!
It’s not NSG which gets involved it’s the paras which do now. Fact is that NSG is far more experienced in hostage taking situations in an urban building. It shouldn’t be the job of the army IMO, I think NSG fits this role perfectly. Paras don’t have any room clearing kit either. Hence, 3 para sf operatives died in the standoff
 

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If China could over run India with in 1 week.

What's holding them back ? 😏

Didn't they try some shenanigans in East Ladakh using the Covid situation & failed.
They have the capabilities too, but they won’t as they don’t want international sanctions since their economy is heavily tied to trade
 

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They have the capabilities too, but they won’t as they don’t want international sanctions since their economy is heavily tied to trade
"We also have the capacity to annihilate the entire Middle East with our Nuclear Bombs but we won't as we don’t want international sanctions." 😆

That's not even a point.

If China could have overrun East Ladakh & Arunachal they would have already done it like what they did in Spartly Islands. Why do you think they moved into East Ladkh in the 1st place.
 

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"We also have the capacity to annihilate the entire Middle East with our Nuclear Bombs but we won't as we don’t want international sanctions." 😆

That's not even a point.

If China could have overrun East Ladakh & Arunachal they would have already done it like what they did in Spartly Islands. Why do you think they moved into East Ladkh in the 1st place.
They only do it by salami slicing, fact is if China wasn’t sanctionable, it would have overrun the army in a week. I mean buying jetpacks? The generals are complete jokers
 
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