India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[utubekhiladi]

China can happily go to war or escalate border tension because aggression and violence is its go-to strategy to resolve issues. From Tiananmen square to Hong Kong protests, from sinking Vietnamese shipping boats to ambushing Indian troops with nailed rods, China can go to any level to get what it wants. We cannot let a little back and forth of a few soldiers on LAC delude us from its proximal position to create chaos. This is the country we are dealing with.

Our experts, panellists and the media do not discuss strategy. We believe in narration of the status quo as ideal representation of journalism. The media is weaving stories and most defence experts are majorly painting everything in their preferred colour, thus making it impossible for a common man to understand the issue.

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In the Galwan area, latest Satellite imagery proves massive construction efforts going on in Chinese side. Also, some construction on PP14 has come up, the infamous site of battle on the night of June 15. This is a very critical point for China. PP14 is right on the location that gave China an excellent line of sight and observation ability into Indian side. I’m sure they will continue to build on it, irrespective of Indian resistance. The construction leading to this point is also going on at a large scale, proving that China aims to fortify and build up in this region.

Indian, Russian, and Chinese delegations would have met this week and discussed in detail how to be better neighbours. China's response has been moving troops to the Depsang area. Speaks volumes about the success of these meetings. PM Modi cannot behave like Xi Jinping because we have a democracy and the government and the PM are answerable to the public. The next best move to lead the country in one direction would be to provide some autonomy and control to the armed forces to manage the issue. They would be the best contenders in the country to provide real, workable and viable solutions to the crisis. If it’s the Olive Greens that are going to fight and defend the borders, even at the risk of losing their lives, why should they not be given the freedom to act the way they want, without any bureaucratic and political stifling and media glare. I’ll reiterate, ‘Keep calm and trust your Army’.

Dragon On Doorstep But India Fails To Decipher China’s Nefarious Pattern And Motive

China is a totally different beast and we have hardly been able to understand it, let alone manage to tame and befriend it on our terms.

www.outlookindia.com

 

[Suryavanshi]

Better increase production of HAL LCA's by war footing no negotiations please only production's

 

[AmitG]

bollocks... whole leadership ( civilian and army) have been making statements that we are ready for 2 front war... CDS himself made statement to this... so i m sure we are prepared well...

Not to dhoti shiver but they are not very well going to say we are not ready is it? It will be tough and brutal. I think our weakness is our airforce in a two front war. We just don’t have the numbers. But as I was saying earlier , it will not be a two front war. Uncle Sam will keep the Paki‘s well behaved. If not the Pakis will get a real spanking.

 

[IndianHawk]

Better increase production of HAL LCA's by war footing no negotiations please only production's

Yup the immediate way to increase number is to build what you are already building which is su30 and lca .

F21 won't come anytime soon and then you will have to train for it , develop offensive tactics not feasible time wise.

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

I keep hearing this a lot. What are those "heavy concessions?" That we allow 100% FDI in multi-brand retail (enabling Wal-Mart and Costco to the disdain of the local neighborhood kirana wallah who's already getting his ass taken by D-Mart, Big Bazaar and Spencer's)? Other than that, what? F-21 (which was going to happen anyway due to TATA being BJP's biggest political benefactor)? What more can a country that just got rid of the UK some 70 years ago do?

US base in Andaman and Ladakh.

 

[Yeloblu]

Now in xinjiang.

Powerful magnitude-6.4 earthquake hits China's Xinjiang

The epicentre of the earthquake was China's Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region. There were no immediate reports of any loss of life or damage to property.

www.indiatvnews.com

Surprisingly accurate ..

 

[LETHALFORCE]

China can happily go to war or escalate border tension because aggression and violence is its go-to strategy to resolve issues. From Tiananmen square to Hong Kong protests, from sinking Vietnamese shipping boats to ambushing Indian troops with nailed rods, China can go to any level to get what it wants. We cannot let a little back and forth of a few soldiers on LAC delude us from its proximal position to create chaos. This is the country we are dealing with.

Our experts, panellists and the media do not discuss strategy. We believe in narration of the status quo as ideal representation of journalism. The media is weaving stories and most defence experts are majorly painting everything in their preferred colour, thus making it impossible for a common man to understand the issue.

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In the Galwan area, latest Satellite imagery proves massive construction efforts going on in Chinese side. Also, some construction on PP14 has come up, the infamous site of battle on the night of June 15. This is a very critical point for China. PP14 is right on the location that gave China an excellent line of sight and observation ability into Indian side. I’m sure they will continue to build on it, irrespective of Indian resistance. The construction leading to this point is also going on at a large scale, proving that China aims to fortify and build up in this region.

Indian, Russian, and Chinese delegations would have met this week and discussed in detail how to be better neighbours. China's response has been moving troops to the Depsang area. Speaks volumes about the success of these meetings. PM Modi cannot behave like Xi Jinping because we have a democracy and the government and the PM are answerable to the public. The next best move to lead the country in one direction would be to provide some autonomy and control to the armed forces to manage the issue. They would be the best contenders in the country to provide real, workable and viable solutions to the crisis. If it’s the Olive Greens that are going to fight and defend the borders, even at the risk of losing their lives, why should they not be given the freedom to act the way they want, without any bureaucratic and political stifling and media glare. I’ll reiterate, ‘Keep calm and trust your Army’.

Dragon On Doorstep But India Fails To Decipher China’s Nefarious Pattern And Motive

China is a totally different beast and we have hardly been able to understand it, let alone manage to tame and befriend it on our terms.

www.outlookindia.com

There was no meeting with Chinese in Russia. The whole trip was a waste of time.

 

[IndianHawk]

current LCA Limited for Potent War Platform At least 10 years Behind Latest F-21 or rafale in war fighting

Accept Reality mate It

It Will still take 5-6 years To make Fully Potent in operational combat

Time is desperate And Sorry F-16 is MWF And far More versatile
Rafale is To But only Americans can deliver us Aircraft in War-footing

You can't just take a new platform to fight. You will need to train to fight with it . That takes years.

 

[Kumata]

The other thing to consider is when both the borders are hot, neither ITBP or BSF will be able to spare battalions for Internal security.

Correct me if i am wrong but internal security was never a forte of IRBP / BSF. Once the first bullet is fired, ARMY will take over the front and these 2 will fall back to supporting role for Army.

Why do we have state police... to collect bribes...

 

[AmoghaVarsha]

This I can agree with. Beijing is counting on the fact that local politics will prevent Modi from overtly seeking Western help when push comes to shove.

I actually won't discount Modi doing the unthinkable (such as entering NATO). It would mean instant deactivation of Russian hardware by Moscow, but the US is ready with contingency (such as that 100 F-15 JSDAF deal).

Why this f 15 deal was not taken earlier?

 

[Kumata]

current LCA Limited for Potent War Platform At least 10 years Behind Latest F-21 or rafale in war fighting

Accept Reality mate It

It Will still take 5-6 years To make Fully Potent in operational combat

Time is desperate And Sorry F-16 is MWF And far More versatile
Rafale is To But only Americans can deliver us Aircraft in War-footing
If Not F21 Better get SH

IN recent War games, every body was surprised with performance of LCA .... It might not match rafales.. but it easily beat down mirages..anyways its role will be of interceptor...while front will be manned by SU ....

 

[Satybharat]

Begani shadi mein Abdullah divana

 

[WARREN SS]

You can't just take a new platform to fight. You will need to train to fight with it . That takes years.

Bullocks Modern Aircraft Is more Easy to train With then old gen Due to simulated training
No Amateur Will fly this aircraft but seasonal pilots

What takes Times Is Training ground Maintenance Crews & engineers And Logistic Support

 

[Kumata]

Not to dhoti shiver but they are not very well going to say we are not ready is it? It will be tough and brutal. I think our weakness is our airforce in a two front war. We just don’t have the numbers. But as I was saying earlier , it will not be a two front war. Uncle Sam will keep the Paki‘s well behaved. If not the Pakis will get a real spanking.

I had trust the CDS than making my own assumptions...

 

[IndianHawk]

Not to dhoti shiver but they are not very well going to say we are not ready is it? It will be tough and brutal. I think our weakness is our airforce in a two front war. We just don’t have the numbers. But as I was saying earlier , it will not be a two front war. Uncle Sam will keep the Paki‘s well behaved. If not the Pakis will get a real spanking.

China can only put a limited number of aircrafts in tibet. They neither have enough airfields nor hardened shelter. Besides china has its own multiple fronts against Japan , South Korea , Taiwan and USA and scs. If china shows weakness on these front rivals will consolidate their positions.

 

[BangaliBabu]

Is it.. did US-china had a skirmish in SCS today... source pls....

yes

 

[Knowitall]

The whole 2 front war depends upon who surprises whom first.

If India with credible intelligence decides to strike first and catch China and pakistan we can make short work of PAF, PN and the aircraft in Tibet.

But if they end up catching us by surprise it can be devastating for us too we are in no position right now to take aircraft losses.

Who ever starts the war it will be fought on the air first both sides will try to knock out a critical portion of their opponent's airforce in the first few hours itself and then dominate the war.

This is especially true in the case of pakistan and china since they are aware of India's ground capabilities they know that we have no shortage of men and material and can not only stop but push forward too.

Their whole plan plan will depend on them gaining air superiority and and using their air force to make critical breakthrough's.

It's really a question of who strikes first.

 

[IndianHawk]

Bullocks Modern Aircraft Is more Easy to train With then old gen Due to simulated training
No Amateur Will fly this aircraft but seasonal pilots

What takes Times Is Training ground Maintenance Crews & engineers And Logistic Support

That's not how modern jets work. You need to develop tactics for platform and weaponry . You need to know everything about it's behavior in air inside out. It's not just fly and shoot.

 

[Satybharat]

why, what happened???

Let’s not play on Chinese terms..we can not let them be entirely ready in front of us...attack them before they attack

 

[Suryavanshi]

current LCA Limited for Potent War Platform At least 10 years Behind Latest F-21 or rafale in war fighting

Buy f 21 and push the LCA program 20 years back.
Take the risk double the rate of production to 20 per annum. Fast track the MWF program.
The solution to the problem isn't looking on the outside but inside.
Seal the deal with safran for JV on engine if u have to.