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mist_consecutive

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Oh my, what a widow wailing spectacle this has been from the morning!

I request my Indian brother and sisters, please -
  • Show restraint. Lots of fake news and cover-ups are going through. If you hear good news, post it. If you hear bad news, verify it first, then think if is it worth posting.

  • One thing is sure, whole lot of Indian media and reporters who have deep contacts cannot be wrong always. Not all reporters are sellouts. Few are, you know them from (bad) reputed news channels and their past reputations, but not all.

  • Follow the 3 - source rule. If 3 independent sources report the same news, it is indeed true.

  • Even if you see sad news, don't go on overdrive and start randi-rona. We are fighting China, they are stronger than us militarily. You expect us to win Rambo-style? Strengthen your hearts, comrades!

  • And last, of all, trust our leadership and military. They need it. I am not saying trust BJP, you can decide upon them in coming elections in whatever way you deem fit. Trust the government in power to take care of the situation.
Jai Hind.
 

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Their is no confusion dude, everything is falling in place.
WE return their soldier or whatever it was.
They return ours.
Communist bastards hindu, ht go gaga over news of soldiers return.
Government go and says to Chinese "you want de-escalation, go and tell whole world, no soldiers of India were with you and you get what you want", then chicoms go and do as they were said.
But here comes HT and Hindu congressis jihadi system cleverness "nah, Chinese did because of pressure from India", hence, we jihadis win.
But, then nobody ask jihadis and NAUKARS that "Chinese don't want this to go overboard" and what is making them do that.
Of course it is full front attack from all sides of China.
And no nation taking it lightly.
And also internal fight in China, man, I hate communist bastards.
Poor China and CPC. Signing that agreement with Congress was a very bad idea. That's another overseas investment gone bust.. lol.

China bowled a googly back - They said we don't have any Indian soldiers in our custody. Big difference between "have" and "had" after the swap.
 

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Went through some posts on a chinese forum .

Their story is that we attacked their construction crew ( 2 fork list drivers seriously injured ) , then the crew called for PLA , who came , fight began . our 3 soldiers fell down hit their head and died . rest ran in night
got lost and drowned , our helicopters were searching for missing men all night .

Unofficial version says 2 seriously injured , many with minor injuries . All taken by helicopter to a field hospital, treated and released .

One guy claims he heard rumors of 55 on our side , 200 on theirs . He wants the Indian army wiped out.
No offence, was it you who had started wailing after seeing old pictures posted on a Chinese forum?
 

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Well as much as I understood the chene intension is to acquire area till mouth of Shyok river ( after Shyok river bridge complete they feel Insecure IA troops cross to Galwan river valley). This will give them to monitor DBO road runs through west Bank of Shyok river. If this happens Strategically IA troops and DBO road will be at mercy of Chene
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Area of clash. Predicted rightly. No water or cliff is visible as said by many in Media and cold water.
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every body is hung up in these images, go to google maps zoom out and have A look at the entire galwan valley.

The way I see it, it will be like shooting fish in barrel situation for them at receiving end, if India wants to go the offensive. they can’t climb the on the mountains with their equipment, they have to back out from the same way they brought their equipment in i.e along the river.
 

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I think India won't attack China now. Modi is very smart. He will keep the window open and first he will propel Economy.
Sure Modi is ver smart, he won’t attack.......would you say the same about all the governments before, because they too didn’t attack? Modi has had 6 years, how long to you think he has now. Till then, I suppose the Chinese will wander about with impunity....Forget attack, we can’t seem to defend, somebody here dismissed some encroachment report by an BJP MP in Arunachal as old news because it was from November 2019.... Must be that damn Nehru’s fault...or Maun Mohan Singh’s.......
 

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Went through some posts on a chinese forum .

Their story is that we attacked their construction crew ( 2 fork list drivers seriously injured ) , then the crew called for PLA , who came , fight began . our 3 soldiers fell down hit their head and died . rest ran in night
got lost and drowned , our helicopters were searching for missing men all night .

Unofficial version says 2 seriously injured , many with minor injuries . All taken by helicopter to a field hospital, treated and released .

One guy claims he heard rumors of 55 on our side , 200 on theirs . He wants the Indian army wiped out.
No wonder Chinese film industry is not able to compete with Hollywood. When script is poor, what can acting and CGI do?
 

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#Exclusive | SHOCKER from @INCIndia.

Listen in to the conversation between Zakir Hussain, Congress councillor & his friend where he berates our Army & lauds Chinese Forces.

Ultimate insult to our martyrs, the ‘treachery’ of @INCIndia has been caught on tape.

Details by Sohil.

Bloody jaichands😡
 

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A lot of post have been written that why is the talk between India and China when we have lost our 20 brave hearts?
Let me sum:
1- If we have faced some loss, they ( chinkies)have also been killed.
2- Non of the two country want a war this time.
3- both want a win win situation showing each other as aggressor when both have aggresived.
4- Talks are better then unfortunate war may be for some time but it is still good.
5- Both are rising don't want to lose their economy even the won.
6- Now talks are to come to a condition where both settle the matter for once and all which both will see if it fruits their condition or not.
Rest on you. You may dislike my views or have any thing in your mind.
 

ersakthivel

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In Ladakh,
The battle lies in the east
But the prize lies in the west,

Galwan valley , F4-F8 cant support any major armor thrust to block the Darbuk-Shyok-DBO road,

Galwan valley too deep, too narrow & with freezing temp most part of the year, It will be a death trap fr any enemy,

Especially with Excalibur rounds, long stand off precision munitions from ever modernizing IAF,

Pangong Tso F4-F8 too is narrow , with a hill feature at F4 obstructing armor movement, a natural boundary,


WIth newly raised mountain strike corps, far shorter IA supply line, lare number of IAF bases in north,

IT would be suicide fr PLA to try to interdict Darbuk-Shyok-DBO road, from these areas.

Darbuk-Shyok-DBO road, checks chinese advance on ladakh from east, buttressing indian hold over Ladakh sub sector north, steeling the defence and logistics of DBO , strengthening our hold over areas south of karakorum pass.

ANd this allows india to build many roads ,logistic channels criss crossing entire ladakh facilitating integrated defence of ladakh,


This makes it feasible fr IA to strike in Giljit baltistan area , if that happens PLA wont be able to come to the rescue of PA, because of the mountain strike corps & logistics of DSDBO road, The CPEC corridor based on karakorum highway, which passes through kunjerab pass is not an all weather road fr china to support pak in Giljit baltistsan

Its an interesting game of shadows

If we built this vital road earlier we would not hav seen so many chinese pockets in the area,
 

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So this is one of @Hellfire answer

I really want him to clarify on this.
All soldiers back.

Let me give you the bitter pill:

1. The CO did not have an overwatch. You always have an overwatch (armed) when such situations occur. No ROE prevents you from taking precautions to protect your men and yourself.

2. Stupid logic of having served in UN so he went to make Chinese vacate is being forwarded. Pure stupid. Nothing of the sort.

3. The Chinese casualties are estimates. Estimates are based on what you assume you know. And has an observer bias always. The scuffle was uphill for own troops. Let me know when person throwing stones from top is dominated by those from bottom running up a rocky terrain in high altitude. And moving in phases. More crap than I can rebut floats around. Facts do not have PLA casualties greater than IA, including all types KIA and wounded (even scratched).

4. Indication that the captured troops were paraded in a humiliating manner at the Div Commander meet is coming forth.

5. There is a rumor that the IA first attacked. Non-sense. They were 'lured in' I wrote 'suckered in'.

6. Now the PLA is testing Indian political will in Arunachal. You will start hearing of standoffs there in a few days. Large tracts of land remain mutually uninhabited - PLA is moving in even as our politicians twiddle their thumbs.

7. IA was asked to pull back from some features as part of CBM …. without verifying actual PLA withdrawal. That is off the record strictly.
Things are starting to potentially shape up the way Hellfire had said:



"On Chinese casualties during the Galwan engagement. 5-10 KIA is being estimated."
 
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