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I am not sure if India has the capability. Maybe USA has. India may have a few anti satellite missiles but using at this stage is illogical.
I had read some time back about India's antisatellite soft-kill capabilities using laser/electronic counter measure. I will try to dig it up. If the Chinese start using ballistic/cruise missiles against Indian troops, disabling their satellites would make their missiles far less accurate.
 

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With a Major showdown including loss of life on both sides, things are heating up between India and China around the Line of Actual Control (LAC). Meanwhile the Pakistan DG Inter Services Public Relations (DGISPR) has tweeted that General Nadeem Raza, CJCSC, General Qamar Javed Bajwa, COAS, Admiral Zafar Mehmood Abbasi, CNS, and Air Chief Marshal Mujahid Anwar Khan, CAS visited the HQ of Inter Services Intelligence (ISI). Lt Gen Fiaz Hamid DG ISI gave a comprehensive briefing to the military leadership on the regional security issues with special focus on LOC and J&K.
We really need to nuke pakistan entirely once and for all. They have lived long enough .

It won't be long before bangladesh start to make noise too if we don't do it now.
 

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2. Since the highest ranking the colonel died in the battle field, the whole team seems out of control and collpsed, media used more hours to find KIA numbers of IA soldiers.
Ever faced an Indian regiment after the CO is killed?
They don't collapse or run away,

It's more like removing a parent from unruly bunch of kids.

If the CO died first, rest of the soldiers would have done everything to remove the heads of Chinese Soldiers.

It's very apparent you have absolutely zero idea of how Indian military works...
 

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This report is translated into Chinese in our forum:

PLA Death Squads Hunted Down Indian Troops in Galwan in Savage Execution Spree, Say Survivors

1) 本场冲突一共持续了八小时。
解放军手持铁棒和用铁丝网包裹的警棍(狼牙棒???)Furious hand-to-hand fighting raged across the Galwan river valley for over eight hours on Monday night, as People’s Liberation Army assault teams armed with iron rods as well as batons wrapped in barbed wire hunted down and slaughtered troops of the 16 Bihar Regiment, a senior government official familiar with the debriefing of survivors at hospitals in Leh has told News18.周一晚上,当解放军的突击队手持铁棒和用铁丝网包裹的警棍追捕和slaughtered (不懂请查字典)比哈尔邦第16团(16 Bihar Regiment)的部队时,激烈的肉搏战在加尔旺河谷持续了8个多小时,一位熟悉在莱赫的医院幸存者情况的政府高级官员告诉News18。


2) 至少有23名印军在冲突中丧生,其中包括比哈尔邦第16团的指挥官桑托什·巴布(Santosh Babu)上校。
The savage combat, with few parallels in the history of modern armies, is confirmed to have claimed the lives of at least 23 Indian soldiers, including 16 Bihar’s commanding officer, Colonel Santosh Babu, many because of protracted exposure to sub-zero temperatures the Indian Army said late on Tuesday.这场野蛮的战斗在现代军队的历史上几乎没有相同的案例,据证实已经夺去了至少23名印度士兵的生命,其中包括比哈尔邦第16团的指挥官桑托什·巴布(Santosh Babu)上校,这么多的伤亡是因为他们长期暴露在零度以下的低温,印度军队周二晚些时候说。


3) 说是冲突,基本上是解放军追着印军漫山遍野跑,还有印军慌不择路跳河被淹死的。
“Even unarmed men who fled into the hillsides were hunted down and killed,” one officer said. “The dead include men who jumped into the Galwan river in a desperate effort to escape.”
一名警官说:“即使是逃到山坡上的没有武器的人也会被追捕。”。“死者包括跳入加尔旺河拼命逃跑的士兵。”


4) 目前还有24名印军重伤,超过110人受伤。
Government sources say at least another two dozen soldiers are battling life-threatening injuries, and over 110 have needed treatment. “The toll will likely go up,” a military officer with knowledge of the issue said.
政府消息人士说,至少还有24名士兵正在与危及生命的伤势搏斗,超过110人需要治疗。一名了解此事的军官说:“死亡人数可能会上升。”。


5) 冲突的起因是印军越过实控线烧毁了解放军搭建的帐篷。
The fighting at Galwan, News18 had first reported on Tuesday, began after troops under Colonel Babu’s command dismantled a Chinese tent sent up near a position code-named Patrol Point 14, close to the mouth of the Galwan river. The tent had been dismantled following a meeting between Lieutenant General Harinder Singh, who commands the Leh-based XIV Corps, and Major-General Lin Liu, the head of the Xinjiang military district
据News18日报道,加尔旺的战斗是在巴布上校指挥的部队拆除了一个中国帐篷后开始的,这个帐篷是在加尔旺河口附近一个代号为“14号巡逻点”的位置附近搭建的。这座帐篷是在总部位于莱赫的第十四军团指挥官哈林德·辛格中将和新疆军区司令林刘少将会晤后拆除的


6) 解放军占据高处有利地势向下投掷石块,而印军没有还手之力。
Large rocks were also thrown towards the Indian positions by Chinese troops stationed on the high ridge above Point 14, one source said. Though some fought back using the improvised weapons carried by the PLA, most had no means of defence.
一位消息人士说,驻扎在14号巡逻点高山脊上的中国军队向印度阵地投掷了大量石块。尽管有些人使用携带的简易武器进行反击,但大多数人没有防御手段。

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My personal analysis:
1. Among the 20 death, only 3 of them are died in "battle field", but rest of them are not.

If they were all dead on hand with hand fighting, i would say PLA might suffered similiar amount of causualities. But from Indian own news report, the 17 death were from riverside and cliffs.

2. Since the highest ranking the colonel died in the battle field, the whole team seems out of control and collpsed, media used more hours to find KIA numbers of IA soldiers.

3. I would say this is more an accident than a real fight to IA. When the team was collapsed, there was no plan b and rescue team on the second line. The injured soldiers and missing ones suffered whole night at hight of 4500m, this is quite cold during night. The climate killed most of soldiers than PLA.

4. So far, the CCP didn't inflame any domestic anger here, on our weibo, it's not even on the top10 news.
Government, CCP, Xi Jinping, DoD, none of any them made any official statement, you can compare how many Indian top guys made such kind of statement.

If Chinsee side really suffered huge losses, you would imagine the reaction would be quite different.

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That's my personal analysis, welcome reasonable discussion, won't reply insulting.
told you don't pollute here with the nationalistic garbage on your Sino forums. Your men can die or not die as much as they want. We really don't have much interest in counting your losses. Last time we heard anything genuine from across the LAC was that your country's rip-off transport helicopters were picking up your dead a full 24 hrs. still after that ambush of yours.
 

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https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/12 ... 5552394240
Situation continues to be very tense at PP14, Galwan Valley. Maj Gen-level talks yesterday have *barely* kept things under control. India has conspicuously raised diplomatic tone. But situation not good on a major issue. Will update with official details. #IndiaChinaFaceOff
**** - looks like might they have prisoners

https://twitter.com/ShivAroor/status/12 ... 97536?s=20
You may be able to judge from my tweet
 

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OK, i hope there won't be any personal insulting to me here, i am OK with any logical dicussion.
That's why i was watching here for two days but not said any for avoding bad mouthing.

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The first image repeated the whole story of Mr ezsasa's version, maybe the translatioin was from there.
The 2nd and 3rd images are different resources within two days, also said no one dead.


2. In our military forum, this is no single thread talking about death of anybody, all articles were talking about 0 death. Some dicussions about the the whole story.

3. If you really check the each words of our foreign minister talked with yours, filtering those "emotional" part, he used the word "punish the person who raise this incident", not "punish the murder of this incident". The Chinese lanuage is quite accurate language, most netizen on our side think this is the implication for there is no one dead.



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4. these two images are shown the PLA side were quite prepared on such kind of fighting.
From the casualties report, it firstly said 3 killed, and few hours another 17 killed. It means those 17 are missed and found in the other places not in the "battlefiled". From our discission, the whole team from India side just collpased, that's why Indian soliders ran away and some of them felling into the river and cliff during the night.

5. China really dosen't want a full war with India at this time. If our goverment and PLA really release the 0 death to public, there will be 10 times more humiliation to Indian society. If you look back to history, PLA not only returen all the POWs to Indian, but also with all the weapons during 1962 ...

6. India-Sino conflict for past two days are not even in our top5 news on weibo.com; the government in internal even dosen't want people's attention on this matter. And this is not a single weibo said there is any death.

Those are the info for two days from my side, again please no personal insulting.
Listen you filthy chinky ping pong let's not talk about your gov and its mouthpiece we don't give a fuck.

In 67 when Indians drilled ass of cockroach eating chinky even then your gov was trying to save it's ass to not that it matters. Point is even if millions of chinky rats die who cares people around the world will be happy that you are flushed out

We are ready to kick the F out of china . To roll them over just like japan did by showing you your place.. such a filthy shit eating chinky like you should be ashamed to be even alive in presence of humanity. Go eat cat dog rat cockroach or catch a fly for your dinner ahole
 

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Listen you filthy chinky ping pong let's not talk about your gov and its mouthpiece we don't give a fuck.

In 67 when Indians drilled ass of cockroach eating chinky even then your gov was trying to save it's ass.

Point is we are ready to kick the F out of china . To roll them over just like japan did by showing you your place.. such a filthy shit eating chinky like you should be ashamed to be even alive in presence of humanity. Go eat cat dig rat cockroach or catch a fly for your dinner ahole
They have also spammed my notification panel. most of them are porkis disguised as chinkies.
Remember, majority of chinkis can't comprehend English, we can do all propoganda we want and there will be no one to counter us....
 

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told you don't pollute here with the nationalistic garbage on your Sino forums. Your men can die or not die as much as they want. We really don't have much interest in counting your losses. Last time we heard anything genuine from across the LAC was that your country's rip-off transport helicopters were picking up your dead a full 24 hrs. still after that ambush of yours.

I mean seriously. Marne aaye phir khud he maar khake chale gaye ab India ko dara raha hai 'death squad' 'death squad' bolke. :lawl:
 
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