India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Dovah]

China is sending its two Aircraft carriers near Taiwan based on US blacklistings of Chinese companies and threat of breaking relations with China.

China To Deploy 2 Aircraft Carriers Off Taiwan Coast As It Warns US Of 'cold War': Report

This controversial move comes as Beijing threatened to acquire Taiwan again in response to United States President Donald Trump's statement that he could “cut off the whole relationship” with China

Could the LAC build-up be a feint and SCS be the real battleground?

 

[Sanglamorre]

China is sending its two Aircraft carriers near Taiwan based on US blacklistings of Chinese companies and threat of breaking relations with China.

China To Deploy 2 Aircraft Carriers Off Taiwan Coast As It Warns US Of 'cold War': Report

This controversial move comes as Beijing threatened to acquire Taiwan again in response to United States President Donald Trump's statement that he could “cut off the whole relationship” with China

They have aircraft for those 2 ACs?

China has gone full bonkers. Something truly is happening in CCP we don't know about. An internal purge?

 

[Gandaberunda]

China is sending its two Aircraft carriers near Taiwan based on US blacklistings of Chinese companies and threat of breaking relations with China.

China To Deploy 2 Aircraft Carriers Off Taiwan Coast As It Warns US Of 'cold War': Report

This controversial move comes as Beijing threatened to acquire Taiwan again in response to United States President Donald Trump's statement that he could “cut off the whole relationship” with China

Chinese can only bully tiny nations... US is flying Poseidon P8A over strategic nuclear submarine base Hainan Island and Chinese are tight lipped just being spectator

Best time for Indian Navy to have Vicky CBG exercise in Andaman sea

 

[Absolut_Vodka]

Could the LAC build-up be a feint and SCS be the real battleground?

Don't know. Chinese are behaving irrationally due to their insecurities. Whole world is poking them too into doing something stupid.

 

[prasadr14]

Could the LAC build-up be a feint and SCS be the real battleground?

The moves are not makng any sense.
Any bullying by China at this point would only increase the perception that China is indeed a rogue nation.

I think CCP is under tremendous pressure from the backlash happening around the world.

Still, these moves are of a typical bully - At this point only a tight slap would help China to come to its senses.

 

[Suryavanshi]

With China, now. A small statement from Modiji will just do.

And what will people do?

Will they stop burying Chinese phones which make up 60% of the market?
Or will the industries stop exporting machine from China?
BSNL itself is buying 4g equipment from China.
Where will u get your Semicodnuctors, electronics, plastics, batteries?
Will Indian Medical companies stop buying API from China.

Babus, Politicians and Bureaucrats are making things hell for local companies and u want to be self dependent?

Get the system fixed and than We can think about matching China in Strength.

LMAO in any kind of boycott Indian people will he the one to suffer, no Indian local company will get anything out of it.

U can go for Swadeshi only when the local option is decent bit comparable.

The ship we build in 10 years, they build in 5 years.
They build their own artillery, we don't go for local artillery even if there are loads of option available.
We fight with imported guns they fight with local guns, the cost is less for them.
Everything we do they can do better.


If u want some tangible result better start by sacking useless civil service officer in the Government.

Today Modi government is in power tomorrow they won't be in power. China will make it moves then and we will be back to pre 2014 status quo.
More soldiers will die and will get wrapped up in overpriced coffins.
Lata Mangeskar will sing another song for martyrs.
We in this forum will curse our luck.
Tonbo and Kalyani will sell itself due to fund crunch.
Babus will make mad dollars from foriegn companies.

Zidnagi jhand ba, phir bhi ghamand ba.

Governments will rise and fall, leeches in the system will keep thriving until the nation is enslaved and Conquered.

 

[Gandaberunda]

They have aircraft for those 2 ACs?

China has gone full bonkers. Something truly is happening in CCP we don't know about. An internal purge?

Kadi ninda has just now spoken to Australian counter part. Best time now Indian navy to have an exercise with Vicky at Andaman sea

 

[Dovah]

The moves are not makng any sense.
Any bullying by China at this point would only increase the perception that China is indeed a rogue nation.

I think CCP is under tremendous pressure from the backlash happening around the world.

Still, these moves are of a typical bully - At this point only a tight slap would help China to come to its senses.

Even a bully sizes up his opponent before he harasses them. These are the moves of a cornered beast.

If AC movement news is true, then does China believe that it can defeat India comprehensively in a defensive war while its navy is entangled with Taiwan + USA in SCS? Who protects their investments and supply lines in IoR and PoK? Things don't make sense and this means there is vital information missing from the public domain.

 

[Assassin 2.0]

Most of the time wars happen when is under some type of crisis.
Chinese are overconfident that conditions made by Covid - 19 have weaken the global action and reaction india itself is under pressure of covid-19.
XI-jinping is having political issues he is bringing new laws to take over HK he particularly said few years back that he will get all Chinese territories under Chinese control. . Chinese are overconfident about there india china LAC adventures if he is able to snatch some land from india then his political image and CCP domination in Asia will be clearly visible.
Chinese are not idiot's they are playing this game strategically.

 

[prasadr14]

Even a bully sizes up his opponent before he harasses them. These are the moves of a cornered beast.

If AC movement news is true, then does China believe that it can defeat India comprehensively in a defensive war while its navy is entangled with Taiwan + USA in SCS? Who protects their investments and supply lines in IoR and PoK? Things don't make sense and this means there is vital information missing from the public domain.

Any Skirmish would lead to a blockade of Chinese vessels in Indian Ocean,
Can Chinese economy even handle the blockade at this point?

There is not much Chinese can do if we laid a siege at Straits of Mallaca.

Could this be a diversion from China?
Make noise against india but the prize is somewhere else?

 

[prasadr14]

Chinese are not idiot's they are playing this game strategically.

hmm,
imagine if there is a short skirmish and we both end up losing soldiers?

India is used to lose soldiers but China is not.
The current generation of Chinese probably have not gone through their soldiers being killed in aggression.
Wonder if they have calculated body bags coming back to their homes.

In fact for all their advantage, they have not really fought a war in a long time.
In fact, they have not even fought a skirmish in a long time.

We have fought more in last month than Chinese have fought in last 30 years.

 

[ezsasa]

Could the LAC build-up be a feint and SCS be the real battleground?

they already in control of SCS, with no competition in sight. Even American activity in that area is not more than usual.

 

[Suryavanshi]

As I always keep saying, it’s the citizens that need to be convinced first, everybody else will fall in line.

If people are ready to back the govt, irrespective of the fallout. Even taking back PoK is within reach.

People are reactive not proactive.
U want people to react, they will, once shit starts to hit the fan.
Even during the Pulwama event peoples were putting support behind the Government. Doxing and reporting of anti Indian Accounts was carried out by local Facebook groups. The most neutral observer took a stance that time.

People don't browse forum like us so there is no way for them to be aware.
Once the war starts they will put their force behind the government.

This convincing the people argument is pure bullshit and made up by coward politicians who dont really want to make a move.
The people of India won't take out rallies infront of the Parliament to attack the enemy country, well they do but only after the war drums have blown.

Anyone saying public needs to be convinced they are making excuses.

U need to take the first step the public will rally behind u.

U will be surprised.

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@ezsasa is this convincing the public thing your idea or is it someone elses?
I want to know who has this kind of mentality.

 

[ezsasa]

hmm,
imagine if there is a short skirmish and we both end up losing soldiers?

India is used to lose soldiers but China is not.
The current generation of Chinese probably have not gone through their soldiers being killed in aggression.
Wonder if they have calculated body bags coming back to their homes.

In fact for all their advantage, they have not really fought a war in a long time.
In fact, they have not even fought a skirmish in a long time.

We have fought more in last month than Chinese have fought in last 30 years.

if pak can cover up body bags, CCP can too.

but when those Chinese UN chaps died in Africa, thousands of Chinese did come out in final procession in their villages.

 

[Gandaberunda]

PLA deploying fighters...
Recent satellite images via @sbreakintl @PlanetLabs
show a large area parallel to the runway at #Ngari Gunsa dual use airbase being rapidly developed since April 2020, as tensions between #India & #China continue to rise https://t.co/1S2XQKHjZS

 

[ezsasa]

People are reactive not proactive.
U want people to react, they will, once shit starts to hit the fan.
Even during the Pulwama event peoples were putting support behind the Government. Doxing and reporting of anti Indian Accounts was carried out by local Facebook groups. The most neutral observer took a stance that time.

People don't browse forum like us so there is no way for them to be aware.
Once the war starts they will put their force behind the government.
Dare any paki sympathiser utter a word against the army they will be taken care of.

This convincing the people argument is pure bullshit and made up by coward politicians who dont really want to make a move.
The people of India won't take out rallies infront of the Parliament to attack the enemy country, well they do but only after the war drums have blown.

Anyone saying public needs to be convinced they are making excuses.

U need to take the first step the public will rally behind u.

Let Modi come out at 8 o clock and declare a Dharm Yudh and leave the rest to the public.

U will be surprised.


@ezsasa is this convincing the public thing your idea or is it someone elses?
I want to know who has this kind of mentality.

Mine. It’s based on what brits in the old days and Americans in the current days do before going to war.

if we recall, theatleast 1 year of rallying the country for support before going to their wars. they use media to rally public support for their wars.

obviously people are busy with their lives, if taking back PoK or aksai chin is a strategic objective in play, then rallying support among the masses should be part of that plan.

 

[IndianHawk]

Don't know. Chinese are behaving irrationally due to their insecurities. Whole world is poking them too into doing something stupid.

It may also be internal revolt against XI . Some in ccp want to portray xi as too weak to act against India or usa. Ccp is full with internal conflicts.

Remember xi gained power by murdering bo xilai . Same fate might await xi.

 

[IndianHawk]

China is sending its two Aircraft carriers near Taiwan based on US blacklistings of Chinese companies and threat of breaking relations with China.

China To Deploy 2 Aircraft Carriers Off Taiwan Coast As It Warns US Of 'cold War': Report

This controversial move comes as Beijing threatened to acquire Taiwan again in response to United States President Donald Trump's statement that he could “cut off the whole relationship” with China

LMAO. Their carriers are practically useless. As they have no reliable airwing. J15 is a disastrous failure . 20% of all build have already crashed. Now they will crash in front of Taiwan. Lol.

Chinese will end up humiliating themselves again .
Bwhahaha.

 

[Floydian]

Any Skirmish would lead to a blockade of Chinese vessels in Indian Ocean,
Can Chinese economy even handle the blockade at this point?

There is not much Chinese can do if we laid a siege at Straits of Mallaca.

Could this be a diversion from China?
Make noise against india but the prize is somewhere else?

We shouldnt be surprised if the PLAN have already placed their warships in the IOR and the African bases + Gwadar by now to stop us from laying that siege and blocking their trade route...

 

[IndianHawk]

PLA deploying fighters...
Recent satellite images via @sbreakintl @PlanetLabs
show a large area parallel to the runway at #Ngari Gunsa dual use airbase being rapidly developed since April 2020, as tensions between #India & #China continue to rise https://t.co/1S2XQKHjZS

None of their air base in tibet has blast sheltors. Too vulnerable for strikes. Useless posturing again.