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Sanglamorre

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How does this idiot Kugelman manages to insert himself into every india related topic amazes me, as if he is the only game in town.

There'll be more such articles now. They can't openly say Ha! Modi didn't go to war, Modi weak! Since it'll run counter to the peace and tranquility they've been preaching to India. So, backhand compliment at how Modi didn't go to war is gonna flood SM to prick Nationalist Indians.
 

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:lawl::lawl::lawl:

sir ji, only 2 minor corrections. nehru was not choosen, he begged and cryed to be choosen as first PM.

in that day,
the nominations were to be made by 15 state/regional Congress committees. Despite Gandhi’s well-known preference for Nehru as Congress president, not a single Congress committee nominated Nehru's name. On the contrary, 12 out of 15 Congress committees nominated Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel. The remaining three Congress committees did not nominate any body’s name. Obviously, the overwhelming majority was in favour of Sardar Patel.

chacha nehru cried and begged to gandhi :crying::crying::crying::crying:

A disappointed Gandhi gave into Nehru's obduracy and asked Sardar Patel to withdraw his name. Sardar Patel had immense respect for Gandhi and he withdrew his candidature without wasting any time. And it paved the way for the coronation of Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru as India’s first Prime Minister.

Nehru and Gandhi dono milkar desh ki pungi baja dali..:pound:if we had sardar as first PM< we would have been in different league today.

also,
Patel took charge of the integration of the princely states into India. This achievement formed the cornerstone of Patel's popularity in the post-independence era. Even today he is remembered as the man who united India. this credit goes to sardar 100%.

while nehru wanted to give away, kashmir, ladakh, saurastra and raan katch in gujarat.

:pound::pound::pound:
Who told you Nehru wanted to give away Kashmir? He was a idiot of first order by taking Kashmir isssue to UN that's a fact. But half knowledge is dangerous as well:crazy:
 

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There'll be more such articles now. They can't openly say Ha! Modi didn't go to war, Modi weak! Since it'll run counter to the peace and tranquility they've been preaching to India. So, backhand compliment at how Modi didn't go to war is gonna flood SM to prick Nationalist Indians.
More like Americans really want India to go to war with China without them doing anything.
If they are so serious about fighting China, why aren't they banning imports from China or doing trade sanctions.
 

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Ok i have question pls try to answer with calm mind, if china is bigger power, occasional land graber, our primary rival and pakistan is only its proxy to contain india, then why we are so hellbent on our enemity with pakistan.... Yes they send terrorists but that is a kind of proxy war and china is the main military threst to india. Why not make peace with pakistan, even if temporary, how keeping loc hot benefit us?
This is the biggest pile of cuckoldry I have seen in a while. Do you fucking hear yourself??

"Yes they send terrorists...WHy nOt mAkE pEAce"

Fucking hell.
 

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There'll be more such articles now. They can't openly say Ha! Modi didn't go to war, Modi weak! Since it'll run counter to the peace and tranquility they've been preaching to India. So, backhand compliment at how Modi didn't go to war is gonna flood SM to prick Nationalist Indians.
Actually you don't Understand US Mind . Set To portray India army Not strong as And Chinese

Is There Narrative To build as It Will Align with US Policy.India Needs a Savior And Who is this savior Mighty US

LOL Yankees Still Sore from Iranian Missile strike on there base
 
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:hmm: will this work ?

Read somewhere that US army policy is that soldiers cannot carry their personal phones,smart watches during deployment . We should do the same .
It'll work to a great extent as these apps might leak/spy their data which can lead to honeytraps/info-leaks etc. However no smartphone/smartwatch at all is pure stealth.
 

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It'll work to a great extent as these apps might leak/spy their data which can lead to honeytraps/info-leaks etc. However no smartphone/smartwatch at all is pure stealth.
You may have seen this ,


Simple app that tracks user exercise exposed secret US bases.

:hmm: All chinese phones need to do is get gps coords of soldiers and send it to a remote server. They will then get an estimate of how many troops are stationed at bases,where the bases are etc.
 

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So once again India believed in Mahatma Gandhi and Chacha Nehru , instead of fulfilling the resolution passed by Parliament in November 1962 about taking back Aksai Chin. India should have taught a better lesson to these intruders. Everything should not be used for PR stunts. Tomorrow Chinese will return and may be that time India won't find a single supporter like today and won't be in better diplomatic position as of now. Still better than congress but punched below it's weight. Lingering on territorial issues will only harm India's development plans.
Exactly.. when in future india wish to take on China.. there will be no support from any country... This time me due to corona world is very angry with China... But instead india choose disengagement... Next time india may not have modi or BJP .. see hardly any big news was made during congress rule because they did not allow army to engage. .. if this opportunity is lost.. it's not good for india.. next time china will come more prepared
 

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More like Americans really want India to go to war with China without them doing anything.
If they are so serious about fighting China, why aren't they banning imports from China or doing trade sanctions.
US is banning Chinese students and taking small steps . US has much bigger trade than India
with China. Decoupling will be harder. US is not telling India to defend it's territory. It is something
India itself has chosen to do instead of hiding the incursions like in the past where 38k sq disappeared
from claimed Indian territory. US warships are in SCS.
 

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I don't see that USA wants to see others waging war for them ...it was true when world had two super power
after the collapse of ussr, usa has directly went to war with its allied be it gulf, Afghanistan and now chini
So yes India should know that what's good for her and how much she can go on this issue and not at the cost of her soldier
 

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‘Urge US to stop interfering’: Now, China slaps visa restrictions on Washington officials over Tibet

“We urge the US to immediately stop interfering in China’s internal affairs through Tibet-related issues and not to go further and further on the wrong path, so as not to cause further damage to Sino-US relations and exchanges and cooperation between the two countries,” Zhao said.

The province, which borders India, is one of the most heavily restricted and censored regions in the world

China already restricts foreigners, and not just from the US, especially diplomats and journalists from visiting TAR, allowing only a restricted number of foreign tourists in the province; invited guests are almost always with handlers.

Citing human rights abuses by the Chinese government in Tibetan areas, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday said the US would restrict visas for some Chinese officials – under the Reciprocal Access to Tibet Act -- because Beijing obstructs travel to the region by US diplomats, journalists and tourists. The Trump administration’s move announcing its new travel ban targets an unspecified number of Chinese officials with visa restrictions, limiting or entirely eliminating their ability to travel to the United States.

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‘Urge US to stop interfering’: Now, China slaps visa restrictions on Washington officials over Tibet

“We urge the US to immediately stop interfering in China’s internal affairs through Tibet-related issues and not to go further and further on the wrong path, so as not to cause further damage to Sino-US relations and exchanges and cooperation between the two countries,” Zhao said.

The province, which borders India, is one of the most heavily restricted and censored regions in the world

China already restricts foreigners, and not just from the US, especially diplomats and journalists from visiting TAR, allowing only a restricted number of foreign tourists in the province; invited guests are almost always with handlers.

Citing human rights abuses by the Chinese government in Tibetan areas, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Tuesday said the US would restrict visas for some Chinese officials – under the Reciprocal Access to Tibet Act -- because Beijing obstructs travel to the region by US diplomats, journalists and tourists. The Trump administration’s move announcing its new travel ban targets an unspecified number of Chinese officials with visa restrictions, limiting or entirely eliminating their ability to travel to the United States.

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“We urge the US to immediately stop interfering in China’s internal affairs through Tibet-related issues and not to go further and further on the wrong path, so as not to cause further damage to Sino-US relations and exchanges and cooperation between the two countries,” Zhao said.
did you notice the change in their language? instead of their usual warnings, china is now urging

:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

they went from
china warns Australia
china warns UK
china warns India
china warna blah blah blah

to

china urge the us
china urge the india

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
 

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IS IT TIME TO RECOVER THE AKAS - CHIN

The Chinese started this fight but to their disadvantage, India is well prepared with 200,000 mountain trained troops (the best in their class) all of them, of late, well positioned on the LAC. That temporary surprise of nail studded baseball bat fight has evaporated. India moved all the troops from the rear to Ladakh and now they are well acclimatized.

The Chinese are in no position to resist a major thrust in Ladakh to get to their Akas-chin road. Once you have the road in our gunsights then it is all over for the Chinese occupation. I am no military man, but I am told including the Chinese military analysts in their media that Indian troops are better trained and equipped for mountain warfare. The American later verified this fact in ‘Belfer Center’ analysis. I quote :

‘the Conventional wisdom has it that China holds a significant military advantage over India, but recent studies from the Belfer Centre at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government in Boston and the Centre for a New American Security in Washington suggest India maintains an edge in high-altitude mountainous environments, such as the one where the 2020 face-off is taking place.’

A retired Indian colonel who served in Ladakh is quoted saying that the Chinese cannot reinforce too much in the area as the terrain is very difficult

Colonel S Dinny (Retd), who served as the commanding officer of the Pangong Tso battalion as late as 2017, spoke to Sputnik about the ongoing standoff in eastern Ladakh and why it keeps happening in the region every year. The Colonel also refuted the claim made by the Indian media about the presence of thousands of People’s Liberation Army troops inside Indian territory.

He added that:

‘China made the all-weather road between their base at Sirijap and finger 4 (the Chinese perception of the Line of Actual Control) during Kargil war in 1999, when there were lesser troops present. But from finger 4 to the Indian base, the terrain is so difficult that only a single person can move on the track at a time, forget any vehicle. So, definitely the ongoing standoff is on the track which the Chinese built between finger 4 and finger 8. Any movement in the common area is observed by the two sides 24/7 and any movement from their side can be reciprocated in the same number by India as well.’

Most boys, who discuss on various forums have not seen mountains, let alone snow and -20 degrees temperature. They only read Chinese put out propaganda of invincibility. They compare numbers, forgetting that much of Chinese forces are busy in the east, opposite South and North China Sea. Only a limited number are in Tibet and Sinkiang where these are needed badly for internal security.

Hence the numbers game comparing tanks, guns and aircrafts are deceptive, not worth reading about.

My heart full condolences to the families of the dead soldiers at Galwan River Valley. Truly their comrades gave a great account of themselves with fists, hands and captured nail studded baseball bats. China’s nature is betrayal at every step, they played again this time.

Now with mutual agreement, both armies are being separated by 4 km distance. It is no time to relax. Chinese are in position to reinforce any more. Two American Aircraft carriers are, no more than 200km away from the Chinese coast and Chinese attention is all diverted towards it, hence now is as good a time to work to recover Akas-chin. Over two millennium Chinese military theoretician has taught them to strike when least expected, since the Chinese leaders attention is on the American Aircraft carriers, it is time to strike and recover Akas-Chin.
 
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