India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Suryavanshi]

We need at least 5 parallel production line

Tejas Line that can manufacture MK1 than MWF line.
Su 30 line.
AMCA line
ORCA line.

Trusting All the IAF with HAL would be disaster.

 

[IndiaRising]

It seems more likely we have ordered Barak ER from Israel.

 

[ARVION]

wowww

very detailed information.. - a big texas sized like

how many new 29's and mki's we ordered recently? is that included in count?

No I heard now we are considering order 70 more MKI's aircrafts and may be 21nto 45 MIG's 29 Aircrafts

 

[utubekhiladi]

Ideal case by 2030.

SU 30 330
MIG 29 100
Jaguars 100
lCA MK1a 110
MWF 100
Dasault Mirage 40
Rafale 72

Total 840 aircraft.

i think jags and mirages will be EOL by then.. and may i know why you think 29's may goto 100 in count?

 

[utubekhiladi]

Bhutan

i think they will sold out just like nepal

 

[Knowitall]

huh.. U seriously need to focus on cost analysis my friend. Proxy warfare is much cheaper method. Our Govt. has also pumped enormous resources in keeping Kashmir stable. U need to see how much we spend on J&K out of our GDP. Look we are now going the same to Pakis they are now losing soldiers almost everyday in Baluchistan & Sindh. I'll take that as a win everyday.

As I said it is not an ideal situation but we are still moving forward right now look at pakistan they spend so much to destabilize us while their own people die of hunger is that true in our case no.

It might be costly for us too but for now this is the only thing we can do.

 

[Suryavanshi]

i think jags and mirages will be EOL by then.. and may i know why you think 29's may goto 100 in count?

67 operational with us and talks going on to procure 24 more form russia.
There are 700+ of these aircraft active in the current time we can buy from any of them.

 

[revenge002]

Porkis delusions and finding new father's it's a fucking radicalised nation I can't understand how our agencies can't create havoc in there societies.They applied every single card on India since independence doesn't have anything new I can tell with full confidence division among porkis is massive it's easy to fuck them just for once applied massive fake news on there societies they going to fall apart.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

Lt Gen Narsimhan advisor MEA & Member NSAB has given a interview, which in my mind is most disappointing. He seems to be articulating that Govt policy is of surrender.

Interview :-

Ladakh Standoff: 'If our troops had fired, anything could have happened' - Rediff.com

'It could have moved from the use of small arms to artillery fire.' 'Anything could have happened like what happens on the LoC.'

m.rediff.com

Interpretation:-

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

realistically, is it even possible to produce 16-18 tejas with existing mk1 configuration in a year? how many tejas we are producing currently?

i agree with your point on mk2/mwf.. it needs to go LSP by 2023/mid 24. any delay will be too late and will have the same fate as tejas mk1

Currently, Tejas mk1 is being made at the rate of 8 aircraft/year from 2 production lines which are not operating at full capacity due to order of only 40 jets.
A new production line will become operational come November for making 18 trainer aircraft(8 Mk1+ 10 Mk1A) which is capable of making 8 aircraft/year.
With all three production lines at full capacity, 20 aircraft/year is possible, but that needs confirmed orders of 83 Mk1A.

 

[Sanglamorre]

do we take military action or something

Arrey no.

It's the same boiler plate response "befitting reply" written in every statement about LoC. Modi trying to make it seem like he already did something after people are angry he didn't do anything.

 

[utubekhiladi]

We need at least 5 parallel production line

Tejas Line that can manufacture MK1 than MWF line.
Su 30 line.
AMCA line
ORCA line.

Trusting All the IAF with HAL would be disaster.

agree, we need to produce tejas mk1 today then thinking about t-mk2 or amca producing tomorrow..

tejas mk2 need to go lsp by mid 2024 latest and other 2 need to lsp by 2026 latest.. any further delay will be pointless

 

[ARVION]

IAF's by 2026 will have
MKI's 360 Going for 76 Plus order according to recent rumour's
MIG 29's 140 45 ex ussr airframes 19 RMAF
2000's 60 plus EX UAE's ana QAF'S
Raffale's 90 Plus
LCA's 123 Plus
Jaguars 80
Total Strength's 853

 

[utubekhiladi]

IAF's by 2026 will have
MKI's 360
MIG 29's 140 45 ex ussr airframes 19 RMAF
2000's 60 plus EX UAE's ana QAF'S
Raffale's 90 Plus
LCA's BY 123 Plus
Jaguars 80
Total Strength's 853

bhai tera 29 ka count badta hi jaraha hai

 

[ARVION]

bhai tera 29 ka count badta hi jaraha hai

Yes because Russia has 45 plus unused airframes and 19 aircraft are been offered by RMAF

 

[IndiaRising]

Most important thing for us, do we have any A2A missiles right now that can counter aim 120c5?

 

[ARVION]

Most important thing for us, do we have any A2A missiles right now that can counter aim 120c5?

Astra with 110 km range

 

[IndiaRising]

Astra with 110 km range

pakis have roughly 500 though, do we have enough numbers?

 

[Synergy]

please note last line : now it is the time for the world to come together and tell China that enough is enough.

 

[ARVION]

pakis have roughly 500 though, do we have enough numbers?

Barely upto 250 plus but we also ar getting R 77 ME with range of 100 KM around 250 Plus in one month or two I think it will be one month