India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Rohan Naik]

Nepal has launched it's biggest missile. We are doomed.

who is this chap? Any party representative or students union member from communist gang?

 

[sydsnyper]

who is this chap? Any party representative or students union member from communist gang?

He is the same chap who does not know that kuchh maoists ne uski army ke chootde jala diye the..

 

[Akula]

I don't usually pay much attention to their forum. Because today its against India tomorrow it will be against USA. And the day after it will be among themselves on how much force they should apply on uyghur muslims.

The members of their forum is far more worse than even Pak. Atleast educated Pak's are stubborn and they will not show you when they know they are wrong. But they show some restraint when they know something about their argument is wrong.

But Chinkis live in a different type of world where they worship the mass murderer Mao above all Gods. And they live in this reality which states that China has became the world manufacturer so one else can. Typical mainland Chinese mentality is different. They see our diversity in culture, colour, religion as a weakness. They undermine India and Indians in every aspect. Its like the British Colonial mentality only worse, where the Brits did undermine us but also at the same time they knew our importance. But in the case of Chinese if they see that you are an Indian or from India then by default they will assume this that you will be of zero value. And also the Chinkis see themselves as superior of all which if you guys look closely then you will understand that its more have a character of Nazi-Aryan-pure race type mentality. The reason I wrote the word Nazi because many people in this world think that they are superior above all or from any particular ethnic group or groups. But the Chinkis mentality is full of ignorance and arrogance towards other races specially Indians & Hindus.

China consider itself as a middle kingdom and other are barbarians whom they have to civilize.

 

[garg_bharat]

Well guys we cannot choose our neighbors. We can neither love China nor hate it. We have to evolve an equation of strategic balance with it.

And Indian government has to go all out to improve business and investment in India. Unless economic conditions improve, security is unlikely to.

As of now, some sort of hostilities at the border is likely. We do not know what will happen or when. All we know that effort to de-escalate have not borne results.

All out war or limited war - nobody has the answers. Again TV news will not help you. Lengthy analysis and discussion will confuse you. Best is to leave it to the people who have responsibility to manage security of the country. Trust them and respect them.

There will be a time to analyze but it is not now. This is the time of action.

 

[garg_bharat]

I want to tell you guys that land is not the prime reason for fight. It is values and culture. Bharat has already lost a lot of land. But Bharat survives. Bharat exists in a volatile area of competing cultures and civilizations. A smooth sailing is impossible.

There will be occasional wars. As long as we are able to draw the match (or do not lose much), we will stay intact.

If destiny smiles, and we achieve our limited objectives; then payoff can be huge.

 

[Bhadra]

He is the same chap who does not know that kuchh maoists ne uski army ke chootde jala diye the..

Not required..
You do not have to respond to such subverted mind...

 

[Bhadra]

Prepare for India border row to escalate, Chinese strategists warn Beijing

Prepare for India border row to escalate, Chinese strategists warn Beijing

Hawkish Chinese military strategists have called on Beijing to be better prepared for an escalation in its border dispute with India, saying the potential for armed conflict between the two nuclear powers is on the rise.Tensions between Beijing and New Delhi have grown since deadly clashes two...

sg.news.yahoo.com

“If we must fight a war, we must strike quickly and contain the scale in a small and mid-sized war aimed at causing pain to our opponents and hence gaining respect via small wars,” he said, adding that such a victory would project China’s power to the United States and pro-independence forces in Taiwan.

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[prasadr14]

Prepare for India border row to escalate, Chinese strategists warn Beijing

Prepare for India border row to escalate, Chinese strategists warn Beijing

Hawkish Chinese military strategists have called on Beijing to be better prepared for an escalation in its border dispute with India, saying the potential for armed conflict between the two nuclear powers is on the rise.Tensions between Beijing and New Delhi have grown since deadly clashes two...

sg.news.yahoo.com

“If we must fight a war, we must strike quickly and contain the scale in a small and mid-sized war aimed at causing pain to our opponents and hence gaining respect via small wars,” he said, adding that such a victory would project China’s power to the United States and pro-independence forces in Taiwan.

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Chinese are really delusional.

First, they think they can strike quickly & get away with it. There is not enough Political capital in India for BJP to not take any action after a strike from China.

Second, they think they can contain the scale. We are the largest standing military in the world. There is nothing they can do if we choose to escalate where they are weak.

Third, any "limited" war with India, they can kiss Indian markets forever goodbye.

Fourth, it could be India striking quickly and containing the scale. Wonder what the Chinese would do in that scenario?

 

[IndiaRising]

Prepare for India border row to escalate, Chinese strategists warn Beijing

Prepare for India border row to escalate, Chinese strategists warn Beijing

Hawkish Chinese military strategists have called on Beijing to be better prepared for an escalation in its border dispute with India, saying the potential for armed conflict between the two nuclear powers is on the rise.Tensions between Beijing and New Delhi have grown since deadly clashes two...

sg.news.yahoo.com

“If we must fight a war, we must strike quickly and contain the scale in a small and mid-sized war aimed at causing pain to our opponents and hence gaining respect via small wars,” he said, adding that such a victory would project China’s power to the United States and pro-independence forces in Taiwan.

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Nothing new in that article sir. The Chinese believe they are the only ones with brains to make out what is eventually going to happen

 

[Anandhu Krishna]

Nepal has launched it's biggest missile. We are doomed.

Pakis and chinese have successfully turned India -Nepal issue into a nationalistic thing there. It's hard to get it out. He is probably getting paid to do this and the Indians abusing Nepal in return is only adding more fuel to the fire and helping the 2 fronts get what they want.

 

[Bhadra]

So Physical Fight Gains some Traction in the age of Fire Power
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Attrition remained the main methods of defeating the enmy's will to fight and was known by various nomenclatures such as causing unacceptable losses. destruction of enemy;s combat potential etc. The principle method to achieve attrition remained focused on firepower after gun powder became its main agent.

However, here are two major armies of the world who have suddenly found the utility of physical strength and art of unarmed combat.

A few days back I had lightheartedly posted in the thread how Galwans may effect military leadership's mind in training the troops. never knowing this would become a search for PLA and attract their attention..

China recruits MMA fighters for Tibet border militia

China recruits MMA fighters for Tibet border militia

China has enlisted a squad of mixed martial arts fighters into its border militia ranks, according to state media.The 20 MMA fighters were from the Enbo Fight Club in Sichuan province in the country’s southwest and would form the Plateau Resistance Tibetan Mastiffs to be based in Lhasa, the...

sg.news.yahoo.com

China has enlisted a squad of mixed martial arts fighters into its border militia ranks, according to state media.

The 20 MMA fighters were from the Enbo Fight Club in Sichuan province in the country’s southwest and would form the Plateau Resistance Tibetan Mastiffs to be based in Lhasa, the capital of the Tibet autonomous region, state broadcaster CCTV reported on June 20
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[Anandhu Krishna]

It doesn't make a difference. The pahari nepalis are very anti-India for several decades now. They are as venomous as an average porki.
Let the Indian twitter warriors vent.

The solution to nepali problem is going to be a long term one. Either India should prop up a Hindutva party in nepal or thrust a pahari-vs-terai civil war.

Either way it will take decades to tame this barking dog.

That's just one community . They will alianate the whole people with this .

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

China consider itself as a middle kingdom and other are barbarians whom they have to civilize.

Ohh so thanos in making for wanting to reduce half the population vanish by spreading wuhan virus

 

[BeEverVectorMan]

Heard Bat Munchers were again beaten up, this rattled Communists / CCP / PLA, this forced Bat Munchers to increase the build-up!!

Last line of the saying is of Kautaliyas chant kya please enlight us

 

[rock127]

That’s why they’re looking for trained MMA specialists!!

China recruits MMA fighters for Tibet border militia

China has enlisted a squad of mixed martial arts fighters into its border militia ranks, according to state media.The 20 MMA fighters were from the Enbo Fight Club in Sichuan province in the country’s southwest and would form the Plateau Resistance Tibetan Mastiffs to be based in Lhasa, the...

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This time IA should use their 7.62MM for these MMA Chini fighters whose body would go down in history as some insect.

 

[A chauhan]

So Physical Fight Gains some Traction in the age of Fire Power
​

Attrition remained the main methods of defeating the enmy's will to fight and was known by various nomenclatures such as causing unacceptable losses. destruction of enemy;s combat potential etc. The principle method to achieve attrition remained focused on firepower after gun powder became its main agent.

However, here are two major armies of the world who have suddenly found the utility of physical strength and art of unarmed combat.

A few days back I had lightheartedly posted in the thread how Galwans may effect military leadership's mind in training the troops. never knowing this would become a search for PLA and attract their attention..

China recruits MMA fighters for Tibet border militia

China recruits MMA fighters for Tibet border militia

China has enlisted a squad of mixed martial arts fighters into its border militia ranks, according to state media.The 20 MMA fighters were from the Enbo Fight Club in Sichuan province in the country’s southwest and would form the Plateau Resistance Tibetan Mastiffs to be based in Lhasa, the...

sg.news.yahoo.com

China has enlisted a squad of mixed martial arts fighters into its border militia ranks, according to state media.

The 20 MMA fighters were from the Enbo Fight Club in Sichuan province in the country’s southwest and would form the Plateau Resistance Tibetan Mastiffs to be based in Lhasa, the capital of the Tibet autonomous region, state broadcaster CCTV reported on June 20
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Apparently Kung Fu failed them and is useless in personal defense. So much hype in movies

 

[rock127]

Guys... in case anyone missed this significant news.

25,000 Domicile of J&K got their certificates. So BJP is working silently on many things. Removing 370/35A was just a start.
Interesting thing is that the first is a Bihari IAS officer! I hope Biharis take over J&K soon.

IAS officer among 25,000 people granted domicile certificates in J-K

Samaan LateefTribune News ServiceSrinagar June 26

www.tribuneindia.com

Navin Kumar Choudhary, a senior J&K cadre IAS officer from Bihar, is among the nearly 25,000 people who have been granted a domicile certificate in the Union Territory.

 

[daya]

Prasar Bharti writes to PTI, to review relationship after the news agency provides a platform for China to run its propaganda

The Prasar Bharti is deeply anguished by news agency PTI’s coverage in recent times and is considering withdrawing financial support to the latter over their recent coverage. OpIndia has learnt from reliable sources that Prasar Bharti is greatly displeased with what has been described as ‘anti-national’ reporting.


Every fake news and anti national reporting should invite massive penalities and fines making it a criminal offence.

Enough of media and FOE.

Kuchh na hoga inse.. Suchna aur prasaran mantri ne aaj tak koi thos kaam kiya ho is disha me, to batayen.

 

[fire starter]

 

[Bhadra]

Prepare unconventionally : Prepare Cunningly - Use what you have
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There seems to some sort of a thaw in Ladakh as also LAC elsewhere at least for some period when the two sides like two wrestlers are testing each other in a combat posture. Both sides are gathering resources and strength.

IA would require a tremendous amount of fire power in Ladakh. I am sure they are gathering a lot of guns. shells, missiles and other fire indirect fire support ordnance to support operations there.

However. Northern command must use all resources under their command to muster up integral resources. One such resource is 81mm Mortar Pkatoon of their 65 RR battalions which remains unused in the CI grid. Northern command must immediately order forming proper Mortar Platoon led by one artillery / infantry officer consisting of Infantry boys or artillery gunners or Mechanized Infantry boys and induct them in 14 Corps zone for acclimatization, training, range firing and deployment. A temporary organisation can be created out of Corps resources to manage this process. The Infantry Mortars must move with their training and service ammunition.

There would be about 30 Infantry battalions in Ladakh plus eaight ITBP battalions and two / three Ladakh scouts making it to about 40 Mortar platoon. Add about sixty Mortar platoons of RR to that making to to about 100 Mortar platoon. Mathematically this comes to three Mortar platoon per battalion.

The nature of operations to be conduct dicates that six km range is adequate for supporting LAC operations. Mortars are ideally suited to such mountains.
This will result in;

* The entire frontage of LAC can be adequately covered.
* Upto nine mortar fire units can be concentrated to support offensive and defensive Infantry operations to provide close support in effective manner compensating for larger safety distances required for 130 and 155mm Hows.
* It would provide tremendous flexibility in fire support and fire assault operations along the LAC.
* Very less vehicles and logistics support required.
* Can be easily deployed along class 9 and class 5 roads..
* Deployment of such large numbers of fire units will frustrate enemy CB efforts.
* Rapid and sustained fire..
* Rapid dply and extraction... shoot and scoot from temporary positions.

Will not effect the CI grid in any manner. No large movements, No permission of anyone required and ammunition can be manged out of command resources including training ammunition.

Let us use Infantry innovatingly .. Let no resource remain ideal. ... I hope Harry anf YK would be amenable to this.. Imagine nine to twelve Mortars platoon pounding PP14 location or Y junction area of Depsang plains for five minutes from Nullahs and mountain slopes..