India-China Border conflict

[mist_consecutive]

"the pilot didn't see the mountain ahead - which is a common mistake in high altitude flying"

article screenshot is fake , i edited in the quote

 

[DingDong]

What happened wasn't a war but a skirmish. We might've won some skirmishes and so did our adversaries but they had the upper hand when it comes to 5th gen warfare (social engineering, misinformation, cyberattacks etc).

This isn't indifferent to Balakot where IAF might've shot down an F-16 or pakis claiming to take down our Flanker

But in the world view, we lost a Mig-21 and that's the bottom line. No one really cares about the whole F-16/Su-30 saga.

Yeah, let them win the battle on instagram, youtube and tiktok. We are winning it on ground.

There has been no major terrorist attack in India since the surgical strikes. Nobody knows whether Maulana Masood Azhar is dead or alive, in fact his whole family tree has vanished. 26/11 attackers have to deal with two choices: be free and get killed or rot in jail.

As far as the propaganda value is concerned, it is not working either. The most important people for the ruling dispensation in India are it's voters, and the Indian voters did not buy into those propaganda pieces.

International opinion doesn't matter, we have moved on.

 

[Jimih]

It ain't about gora validation...it's about how you project your narrative. Ever heard about something called "5th gen warfare"?

It's been discussed multiple times in this forum that we are still lacking the capability of proper Information Warfare.

Our military along with MoD still works in silos. Untill Civilian elements are synergised with Military elements we will lack the capability.

 

[Kumaoni]

Irrespective of fair play, they beat the crap outta our men during Galwan clashes. We might've had the upper hand in certain skirmishes but at least they won the information warfare

Sure, you were there and personally witnessed it right?

 

[Kumaoni]

Problem is that most of the Indians love to seek for 'Gora Validation'.

Oh gora ne bola hoga toh sahi bola hoga!!

Unfortunately the said member also suffers from this 'validation seeking syndrome'.

Nah, Gora validation is one thing. I just want to see pictures of Chinese beaten up. I need to know that our boys did something like this.

words are words but pictures are pictures.

 

[DingDong]

It's been discussed multiple times in this forum that we are still lacking the capability of proper Information Warfare.

Our military along with MoD still works in silos. Untill Civilian and Military elements are synergised together we will lack the capability.

Indian component of information warfare relies heavily on the volunteers. It has been effective, take the recent Maldives for an example. The prime motive behind the external "propaganda" is to discredit the government and the institutions in the eyes of the Indians and such efforts have been extremely unsuccessful despite earning support from the opposition parties.

As far as the western opinion about the Indians is concerned, we cannot change that. They need to paint us in bad picture to feel superior. You cannot fill a cup that is already full. Waste of effort.

Nah, Gora validation is one thing. I just want to see pictures of Chinese beaten up. I need to know that our boys did something like this.

words are words but pictures are pictures.

The IA released a picture of the Tricolor flying high in the Galwan Valley after the bloody skirmish. Did it change the opinions? I doubt that.

 

[Kumaoni]

This isn't indifferent to Balakot where IAF might've shot down an F-16 or pakis claiming to take down our Flanker

But in the world view, we lost a Mig-21 and that's the bottom line. No one really cares about the whole F-16/Su-30 saga.

In the “world view” an entire Paki squadron alway ran away and failed their operation

 

[Kumaoni]

Oh no, its Saturday

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Its a cultural mentality thing. China & Chinese culture has the habit of over-stating & boasting when none exists. Whereas Indic & Western (Christian) culture it is taught to be humble despite your wins.



We lost info warfare only because GoI decided to not release the images. For god's sake, release the images of Jan 2022 Arunachal Clash, I will single-handedly destroy the entire Chinese nation in info warfare.

We already know based on restricted documents (i sent it to you) that the IA was doing oeprations and intercepting chinese patrols since May of 2019.

 

[Jimih]

Indian component of information warfare relies heavily on the volunteers. It has been effective, take the recent Maldives for an example.

That's will be the issue when taken into military parlance. We want a proper technical pool of civilians fused with millitary.

Our Twitter warriors are all amateurs and emotional.

 

[Kumaoni]

Yeah underestimation is worse thing in warfare
They have credible capability and many pointing out their breathing and acclimatization issues should understand they have done parallel deployment of troops over the border
Coming to that day of clash
It was truly shit show from our side we didn't comprehend the number of pla troops near the river and at night col santosh with his limited troops went for usual proceedings that is push pull demarcations and arguments but we all know what happened the usual clash turned deadly and the Chinese mint it through photos and videos
if u read further they had advantage of 3:1 troops
But this clash doesn't show Chinese victory apart from info warfare coz ground reality is completely different

The conflict resulted in a stalemate with the PLA getting upper hand in some clashes and the IA getting the upper hand in others

 

[DingDong]

That's will be the issue when taken into military parlance. We want a proper technical pool of civilians fused into millitary.

Our Twitter warriors are all amateurs and emotional.

We are getting better at doing it. There is a space for improvement, however don't forget that we are not only fighting the propaganda, we are also fighting the hidden enemy (those who control the social media and decide what is against the community rules and what is not). This institutionalized bias is hard to counter until or unless we are rich enough to throw around some hard cash and buy people.

Take the WIKIPEDIA for an example. I have been silently witnessing the nominal GDP of India switching back-and-forth between 3.7 billion USD and 4.1 billion USD every couple of days. A silent war is going on between those who have publishing control over the platform and those who are trying to gain some control.

 

[jai jaganath]

The conflict resulted in a stalemate with the PLA getting upper hand in some clashes and the IA getting the upper hand in others

And a disadvantage for Chinese
That is India getting assertive and aggressive towards them thus creating another front for themselves

 

[Zoid Raptor]

Sure, you were there and personally witnessed it right?

Are you saying you haven't seen the pictures they released!

 

[DingDong]

Are you saying you haven't seen the pictures they released!

Kindly educate us oh the "invincible cameraman".

 

[rockdog]

 

[Master Chief]

Sure, you were there and personally witnessed it right?

No dude.. We saw pictures of dozens of captured Indian soldiers who were whacked out of shape by PLA..

 

[Master Chief]

How exactly did they beat the crap out of our men?? You are saying contradictory things?? Did they physically beat or thru media articles please explain.

Did you not see the pics of captured Indian soldiers that was released by PLA..around 30 I guess, in a valley

 

[Jimih]

Yeh lo.. Ding Dong Bhai..

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[Jimih]

@Master Chief and other Chinese members are strictly warned here.

Banning will be soughted for any propaganda material posting members here.

You all are on watch now.

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Did you not see the pics of captured Indian soldiers that was released by PLA..around 30 I guess, in a valley

A lot of those men were beaten severely and killed after been captured after the fight in which pla managed to push IA upto the Y junction