India-China Border conflict

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& bullies don't stop just by imagining "civilizational" mumbo jumbo

 

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60,000 troops across ladakh-ut

90,000 troops opposite AP/sikkim

90,000 one is a surprise , Russian invasion of ukraine started with 100,000 troops across the ukranian border

shit will hit fan once frontier lac road begins construction .

If we can deploy 3 lakh IA jawans plus an equal number of auxiliaries in the form of para military forces + reservists , maybe more , even if we ignore the traditional 5-7:1 ratio in favour of defenders on the mountains as per conventional wisdom & given the advances in modern warfare we consider a 3:1 ratio for the invading party aka PLA , that's still a million men of the PLA & their auxiliaries tied up for war across the LAC.

What does that do for their plans across the Taiwan Straits not that the units would be the same as mountain warfare is highly specialised with dedicated units for such duty . But this should give us an idea of the stakes on both sides

But we had to bugger up all this by introducing the Agniveer program who by 2030 will completely replace the jawans inducted under the previous arrangements.

For every 1 step forward we take one step in lateral movement & 2 steps backwards. That should sum up our strategy on the LAC .
 
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If we can deploy 3 lakh IA jawans plus an equal number of auxiliaries in the form of para military forces , even if we ignore the traditional 5-7:1 ratio in favour of defenders on the mountains given the advances in modern warfare & consider a 3:1 ratio for the invading party aka PLA that's still a million men tied up for war across the LAC.

But we had to bugger up all this by introducing the Agniveer program who by 2030 will completely replace the jawans inducted under the previous arrangements.

For every 1 step forward we take one step in lateral movement & 2 steps backwards. That should sum up our strategy on the LAC .
we are deploying equal number . @mist_consecutive probably knows more

point is , there is no reason for 90,000 troops across LAC in AP/sikkim , situation there is stable .

they have some plan . stand off frankly makes little practical sense - unless they are planning to grab land before we can match their infra there.
 

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Only 90 tanks? That's just 2 regiments of tanks
Numbers are all wrong. Don't worry.

But we had to bugger up all this by introducing the Agniveer program who by 2030 will completely replace the jawans inducted under the previous arrangements.

For every 1 step forward we take one step in lateral movement & 2 steps backwards. That should sum up our strategy on the LAC .
Induction of Agniveers will improve our high-altitute endurance. After 30 years a soldier's fitness naturally goes down, and such soldiers just opt out of high-altitude postings due to health or fitness issues. Also younger population has lesser risk of AMS which is the biggest issue on high-altitude deployments.

60,000 troops across ladakh-ut

90,000 troops opposite AP/sikkim

90,000 one is a surprise , Russian invasion of ukraine started with 100,000 troops across the ukranian border

shit will hit fan once frontier lac road begins construction .

Troop numbers mentioned are only officially stated peace-time deployments for border defence. For e.g., Fire & Fury Corps takes care of entire North Kashmir (Dras, Kargil) to South Ladakh (Chumar).

But in reality this keeps fluctuating & they are supported by offensive & defensive formations regularly.
 

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Numbers are all wrong. Don't worry.



Induction of Agniveers will improve our high-altitute endurance. After 30 years a soldier's fitness naturally goes down, and such soldiers just opt out of high-altitude postings due to health or fitness issues. Also younger population has lesser risk of AMS which is the biggest issue on high-altitude deployments.



Troop numbers mentioned are only officially stated peace-time deployments for border defence. For e.g., Fire & Fury Corps takes care of entire North Kashmir (Dras, Kargil) to South Ladakh (Chumar).

But in reality this keeps fluctuating & they are supported by offensive & defensive formations regularly.
not IA but forward deployed PLA , 60k in western sector , 90k in eastern .

150k PLA , first time hearing :dude:
 

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Induction of Agniveers will improve our high-altitute endurance. After 30 years a soldier's fitness naturally goes down, and such soldiers just opt out of high-altitude postings due to health or fitness issues. Also younger population has lesser risk of AMS which is the biggest issue on high-altitude deployments.
And here I was under the mistaken impression prompted by ruminations of ex servicemen , no doubt , especially those who've served on the LAC , that experience is related to maturity which one starts gaining post 30 which assuming a jawan joining at age 18 will have 12 years of , unlike the Agniveers who'd be out by the time he's 22.

Besides isn't the maximum age of active service by the jawans still 35 on the LAC or has there been a reduction considering by 30 they suffer from significant deterioration in health after serving at those heights ?
 

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Is this some kind of deflection for that leaked chink company caught spying on half the planet last week
How is this surprising that a country creating largest number of CSE graduates & Software Engineers, having access to cheap internet, reknown for scam call centers & fraudsters, have good cyber warfare capabilites ?
 

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And here I was under the mistaken impression prompted by ruminations of ex servicemen , no doubt , especially those who've served on the LAC , that experience is related to maturity which one starts gaining post 30 which assuming a jawan joining at age 18 will have 12 years of , unlike the Agniveers who'd be out by the time he's 22.

Besides isn't the maximum age of active service by the jawans still 35 on the LAC or has there been a reduction considering by 30 they suffer from significant deterioration in health after serving at those heights ?
A platoon is always led by a experienced NCO (Havildar & above) with actual field experience who will guide the newcomers. Experience part is not an issue.

Even during Galwan the most gallantry awards went to fierce young bloods < 25 in age, infact there was a study in Army which concluded that most gallantry awards for bravery goes to soldiers age 25 years or below throughout multiple wars.

After 30, a man gets a family, and become risk averse & put less effort in general.

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IMO I see Agniveers getting out at 22 a win-win. Its like a demo of short-term military service akin to what China & Israel does. Jobless & aimless youths of our society taking tiktok reels, its better to spend 4 years in military, learn discipline and earn some hard cash.
 

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