India-China Border conflict

[Abdus Salem killed]

Russia losing Ukraine is good for India. It will show to the Chinese that their plan is unviable. A country like India is no Ukraine. The power parity between India and China is equal.

Russia won they got what territory they wanted from Ukraine the news of retreat now is mostly hype

 

[Kumaoni]

Russia losing Ukraine is good for India. It will show to the Chinese that their plan is unviable. A country like India is no Ukraine. The power parity between India and China is equal.

This makes no sense at all. You brown coolies should read a bit more of the India/China border conflict instead of embarrassing yourselves on every online platform.

Like S Jaishankar said- this conflict has existed long before Russia and Ukraine. China doesn’t need a template from Russia on how to deal with India.

 

[srevster]

This makes no sense at all. You brown coolies should read a bit more of the India/China border conflict instead of embarrassing yourselves on every online platform.

Like S Jaishankar said- this conflict has existed long before Russia and Ukraine. China doesn’t need a template from Russia on how to deal with India.

O rly, why did they disengage now vs the last two years? Why did they back down on Taiwan?

 

[Kumaoni]

O rly, why did they disengage now vs the last two years? Why did they back down on Taiwan?

What does this have to do with my point? Your point that that the Russia Ukraine conflict is connected to the India China conflict is factually incorrect.

 

[flanker99]

Russia won they got what territory they wanted from Ukraine the news of retreat now is mostly hype

Not true the russians are panicked AF ..they have lost large swaths of lands they they had gained in the last few months in days...they are literally fleeing without fighting...hope nukes dont fly

 

[omaebakabaka]

Not true the russians are panicked AF ..they have lost large swaths of lands they they had gained in the last few months in days...they are literally fleeing without fighting...hope nukes dont fly

Lol, wait till it becomes a bit clear. We have dozen opinions just between you and me, me thinks its the Russians playing intentional game to draw out and thin the herd and probably focus on southern sector and Donbass, kharkov can wait. I think they are experimenting because they can.

 

[srevster]

What does this have to do with my point? Your point that that the Russia Ukraine conflict is connected to the India China conflict is factually incorrect.

Peace, Let’s agree to disagree. Not need for gray hairs trying to convince each other.

 

[mist_consecutive]

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

Maybe the same incident

 

[indiatester]

Maybe the same incident

There are 2 parachutes aren't right?
Both failing 2 times points to issues with training for packing as well as QA.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Maybe the same incident

Fucking hell, we should immediately cease all airdrop operations and evaluate our parachutes.

There are 2 parachutes aren't right?
Both failing 2 times points to issues with training for packing as well as QA.

Paratroopers pack their own parachutes. This is a WW2 technology, mighty OFB fucking up in making a simple parachute again.

 

[mokoman]

Fucking hell, we should immediately cease all airdrop operations and evaluate our parachutes.



Paratroopers pack their own parachutes. This is a WW2 technology, mighty OFB fucking up in making a simple parachute again.

dont these guys carry a backup parachute .

fucked up if both failed , 4 failed parachutes for both people.

wonder what actual failure rate is with only 1 failing and backup working.

 

[ezsasa]

dont these guys carry a backup parachute .

fucked up if both failed , 4 failed parachutes for both people.

wonder what actual failure rate is with only 1 failing and backup working.

at such high altitudes like ladakh, do backup parachutes even come into play?

 

[Jimih]

Named after

 

[Love Charger]

You guys ought to pay me more

Here , I guess you are the Chinese agent .so we pay to thee

 

[Tridev123]

What's the point, ? The new road construction by PLA is close to LAC (don't know how much it has progressed). PLA gets what it wants, achieves its objective, and pushes India far away from its own position.

There are no easy answers to the question. India has followed an predominantly defensive approach towards China for decades. No difference between the BJP and the Congress Governments regarding the strategy.

Not making it political but if tomorrow an Congress Government comes to power in New Delhi certainly don't expect that India will launch an offensive against the Chinese and recapture all our land usurped by the Chinese.

Not going to happen. Because the Indian approach to China is the product of an consensus(almost) among the strategic community cutting across party lines.

Maybe we are biding our time and waiting for our country to gain enough economic and military strength. Now whether this is an good strategy or not can be debated.

Our history of non violence and ahimsa probably played an part in us seeking to avoid conflict. We were not born an Vietnam which defeated both an Superpower(US) and an large regional bully(China).

One valid reason could be that there is a large power differential between the two countries. China had and presently has an much greater industrial base than India.

Probably the biggest advantage that China gained was that it opened up its economy to the international business community(mainly the West) an couple of decades before India. As an result it gained enormously from Foreign Direct Investment and exposure to the latest technologies. For all of their sometimes manipulative policies the West did possess an edge over the rest of the world in innovation and competitiveness. There is quite a lot to be learnt from them.

And to the credit of the Chinese they managed to grow fast without mortgaging their country to the West. Not becoming an vassal of the West. They have managed to retain strategic autonomy and an independent foreign policy.

Something that India can emulate.

But India is catching up. An 10% plus economic growth rate (hope this happens) should see us grow much faster than China and help us close the GDP gap. We need the economy to grow substantially. And our Defence R & D and military industrial complex to balloon in capability. No war can be won only on imported weapons. We should create our own weapons and be in a position to add both quality and quantity to our defense matrix.

There should be no need to desperately seek imported weapons to match any new Chinese weapons system. Our military industrial complex should provide the answers to respond to any existing or future Chinese weapon system.

It might take some amount of time to reach that level of indigenous capability. The question is - can we afford to wait.

If public opinion doesn't want to wait and seeks an immediate answer to Chinese provocations then there is no other solution than to bring the nuclear weapons option on the table. History tells us that such an strategy may work. The NATO alliance countries were outnumbered by the Warsaw Pact countries by an ratio of at least 1:2 as far as number of conventional weapons were concerned. Instead of trying to match the Warsaw Pact in terms of numbers of conventional weapons they implemented an strategy of using tactical nuclear weapons to act as trip wires.

Any major conventional attack would be first responded to by the use of tactical nuclear weapons and which could possibly escalate to the use of strategic nuclear weapons.

It was an risky strategy but it worked. The idea was that an adversary who thinks that the costs of offence will be tolerable will realise that the actual costs could become unbearable. China will not like to risk Beijing or Shanghai for Arunachal Pradesh.

It might well stop the Chinese from taking India for granted and seriously deter their salami slicing strategy. But for it to work we would need to clearly define our red lines. And inform Beijing about what would trigger India into using tactical nuclear weapons on the border.

Ultimately it is Mutually Assured Destruction.

Do we have the guts to go for this strategy wherein nuclear weapons will become the bedrock of our defence strategy.

 

[pankaj nema]

There are no easy answers to the question. India has followed an predominantly defensive approach towards China for decades. No difference between the BJP and the Congress Governments regarding the strategy.

Not making it political but if tomorrow an Congress Government comes to power in New Delhi certainly don't expect that India will launch an offensive against the Chinese and recapture all our land usurped by the Chinese.

Not going to happen. Because the Indian approach to China is the product of an consensus(almost) among the strategic community cutting across party lines.

Maybe we are biding our time and waiting for our country to gain enough economic and military strength. Now whether this is an good strategy or not can be debated.

Our history of non violence and ahimsa probably played an part in us seeking to avoid conflict. We were not born an Vietnam which defeated both an Superpower(US) and an large regional bully(China).

One valid reason could be that there is a large power differential between the two countries. China had and presently has an much greater industrial base than India.

Probably the biggest advantage that China gained was that it opened up its economy to the international business community(mainly the West) an couple of decades before India. As an result it gained enormously from Foreign Direct Investment and exposure to the latest technologies. For all of their sometimes manipulative policies the West did possess an edge over the rest of the world in innovation and competitiveness. There is quite a lot to be learnt from them.

And to the credit of the Chinese they managed to grow fast without mortgaging their country to the West. Not becoming an vassal of the West. They have managed to retain strategic autonomy and an independent foreign policy.

Something that India can emulate.

But India is catching up. An 10% plus economic growth rate (hope this happens) should see us grow much faster than China and help us close the GDP gap. We need the economy to grow substantially. And our Defence R & D and military industrial complex to balloon in capability. No war can be won only on imported weapons. We should create our own weapons and be in a position to add both quality and quantity to our defense matrix.

There should be no need to desperately seek imported weapons to match any new Chinese weapons system. Our military industrial complex should provide the answers to respond to any existing or future Chinese weapon system.

It might take some amount of time to reach that level of indigenous capability. The question is - can we afford to wait.

If public opinion doesn't want to wait and seeks an immediate answer to Chinese provocations then there is no other solution than to bring the nuclear weapons option on the table. History tells us that such an strategy may work. The NATO alliance countries were outnumbered by the Warsaw Pact countries by an ratio of at least 1:2 as far as number of conventional weapons were concerned. Instead of trying to match the Warsaw Pact in terms of numbers of conventional weapons they implemented an strategy of using tactical nuclear weapons to act as trip wires.

Any major conventional attack would be first responded to by the use of tactical nuclear weapons and which could possibly escalate to the use of strategic nuclear weapons.

It was an risky strategy but it worked. The idea was that an adversary who thinks that the costs of offence will be tolerable will realise that the actual costs could become unbearable. China will not like to risk Beijing or Shanghai for Arunachal Pradesh.

It might well stop the Chinese from taking India for granted and seriously deter their salami slicing strategy. But for it to work we would need to clearly define our red lines. And inform Beijing about what would trigger India into using tactical nuclear weapons on the border.

Ultimately it is Mutually Assured Destruction.

Do we have the guts to go for this strategy wherein nuclear weapons will become the bedrock of our defence strategy.

Our Problem is PAKISTAN

We don't want China to Arm Pakistan Beyond a Certain Point

IF you have seen Ukraine war , then the lesson is that A weak country can defeat its Enemy IF it gets a very large number of weapons

So Just as US is arming Ukraine ,China can do the same with Pakistan

Because China's Manufacturing Capabilities are better than USA

So we will have to be very tactful in dealing with China As long as we are NOT prepared for a Full Fledged Two Front War

 

[pankaj nema]

Army 'reorienting' forces to boost combat readiness along LAC in Arunachal Pradesh sector; disengaged troops from counter-insurgency operations

Dinjan (Assam), Sep 7 (PTI) The Indian Army is effecting a major “reorientation” and “rebalancing” of its troops in the strategically sensitive areas along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) in Arunachal Pradesh with a top General saying its overall combat readiness in the region is of a “very...

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[Haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars The 1962, Little Girl Donating Money to National Defence Fund During India China War. And and today its impossible. Because we are not mentally ready to increase Defence Budgets.

The Indian History Photographs.

 

[rockdog]

China tests a rocket near LAC that can hit critical Indian Army bases

China tests a rocket near LAC that can hit critical Indian Army bases

China's army tested an advanced Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) at an altitude of more than 5,300 metres in the Xinjiang Region that could hit critical Indian military bases

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