India-China Border conflict

[Jimih]

@mist_consecutive @mokoman @The Shrike

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

@mist_consecutive @mokoman @The Shrike

So locals crossed the border, recorded and came back?

 

[Jimih]

So locals crossed the border, recorded and came back?

Standing near the gate of Attari border I can see Pakistan.

 

[mist_consecutive]

So locals crossed the border, recorded and came back?

Standing near the gate of Attari border I can see Pakistan.

I love it to break the news to you, but IA + ITBP crossed the border went patrolling our rightful territory, and captured the video from the opposite bank of the lake.


See of 0:45

 

[Jimih]

I love it to break the news to you, but IA + ITBP crossed the border went patrolling our rightful territory, and captured the video from the opposite bank of the lake.


See of 0:45

Wow nice, but were they able to stop it?

 

[mist_consecutive]

Wow nice, but were they able to stop it?

It is free real estate, jiski laathi uski bhains.

To your question, we don't have enough laathis in Arunachal Pradesh, unfortunately. We are building them at a pretty fast pace, though.

 

[mist_consecutive]

Honestly, I will be happy if we can consolidate our current boundaries and focus on becoming a developed nation with a strong military. Maybe make a dash for PoK thereafter, but brewing daily quarrels over small snippets of land like these is counter-productive.

 

[Kumaoni]

Honestly, I will be happy if we can consolidate our current boundaries and focus on becoming a developed nation with a strong military. Maybe make a dash for PoK thereafter, but brewing daily quarrels over small snippets of land like these is counter-productive.

+1.

 

[mokoman]

Wow nice, but were they able to stop it?

problem is borderline != watershed (actual geographical border) != LAC

incase u need more proof , Here is another location - outside our borderline but is inside LAC.

its a banner drill , check out what is written on the indian banner .

we already lost 1 lake here , will probably lose large portion of valley here .

 

[Cheran]

@mist_consecutive @mokoman @The Shrike

Isn't this the "Fish tail 2" area?

The pinned location is just on/outside the "Fish tail 2".

I read somewhere that both fish tails are under our control but not shown on map.

GOI should being a "white paper" on the actual status all across.

 

[fooLIam]

Honestly, I will be happy if we can consolidate our current boundaries and focus on becoming a developed nation with a strong military. Maybe make a dash for PoK thereafter, but brewing daily quarrels over small snippets of land like these is counter-productive.

Not possible, our Geography is fucked up. Enemy and hostile nations all around us. They won’t let progress us economically. Ideally our leaders should have been more competent and added buffer zones after buffer zones so heartland should have been “less chaotic”.
our leaders should take Chinese threat very seriously And stop believing anything Chinese says.

 

[Jimih]

Honestly, I will be happy if we can consolidate our current boundaries and focus on becoming a developed nation with a strong military. Maybe make a dash for PoK thereafter, but brewing daily quarrels over small snippets of land like these is counter-productive.

I believe China has a definite plan in their minds w.r.t to AP and Ladakh.

We should not let our guard down, they are constructing 'artificial border villages' near these two places with a definite design in their minds.

"Possession is nine-tenths of the law", as they say.

IA and GoI must simply not be happily contained with patrolling rights only.

 

[Jimih]

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Isn't this the "Fish tail 2" area?

The pinned location is just on/outside the "Fish tail 2".

I read somewhere that both fish tails are under our control but not shown on map.

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GOI should being a "white paper" on the actual status all across.

Will have to check again.

Meanwhile India has refrained from any constructions inside the Fishtail.

 

[scatterStorm]

Study up on QRF tactics and doctrine and you will see that ITBP being tasked to patrol may be a good idea. You can always upgrade ITBPs with new rifles, new vehciles, and radios.

The point is not that we can upgrade them, but by the time we wake up from our slumber, PLAGF would've gained momentum and will have leverage. We then arrive to find out, oh-shit "who moved my fucking cheese" . That's not how you prepare to fight with an agile force.

There agenda is simple, a short skirmish, a very fast one (just like they did with Vietnam, albeit failed) so that they can scoot quickly and call victory. On the world stage, we Indians will gain nothing and looked upon as a weak nation, not capable of defending nor overtaking.

That's what 75 years of war-fighting has taught us, we wake-up when somebody fucks our maidens.

 

[rockdog]

problem is borderline != watershed (actual geographical border) != LAC

incase u need more proof , Here is another location - outside our borderline but is inside LAC.

its a banner drill , check out what is written on the indian banner .

we already lost 1 lake here , will probably lose large portion of valley here .

Chinese fans now also relasese news today about two fish tails:

The Red Star is the Indian patrol's final point, it says this is 25KM inside China's LAC.

The weibo poster analysis:

The Doklam type Indian army cross-border incident occurred again in the Big Fish Tail area in southern Tibet. On August 11, a number of Indian troops, carrying guns, crossed the China India LAC for 25 kilometers and invaded the big fish tail area in southern Tibet via the kelongnongpu River Valley, reconnoitering and harassing the infrastructure construction personnel on the border (Fig. 1-4).

According to the comparative satellite map in Fig. 5, it can be seen that the invasion event occurred at chulucuo in luolazhi mountain pass. Even the map drawn by India itself shows that the large and small fish tail areas (in the red circle of Fig. 7) belong to China. The Indian map also shows that the Indian Army crossed the McMahon line advocated by India for 25 kilometers and reached the lolarachi pass deep in China (red star in Fig. 8).

In 2017, the Indian army in Doklam crossed the line 200 meters, in 2020, the Indian army in Galwan crossed the line 3 kilometers, and in 2022, the Indian army dared to cross the line 25 kilometers without being beaten by our side. Lolalazhi mountain pass is an important passage for our side to the big fish tail area. If a confrontation is formeId here, we may lose control of the big fish tail area. The McMahon line has been illegally imposed on us. Indian is not satisfied with this. They are trying to cross the McMahon line and continue to invade our fish tail areas. The total area is about 1500 square kilometers, which is 25 times the area of the disputed area of Bangong Lake (60 square kilometers)!

 

[jai jaganath]

Chinese fans now also relasese news today about two fish tails:

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The Red Star is the Indian patrol's final point, it says this is 25KM inside China's LAC.

The weibo poster analysis:

The Doklam type Indian army cross-border incident occurred again in the Big Fish Tail area in southern Tibet. On August 11, a number of Indian troops, carrying guns, crossed the China India LAC for 25 kilometers and invaded the big fish tail area in southern Tibet via the kelongnongpu River Valley, reconnoitering and harassing the infrastructure construction personnel on the border (Fig. 1-4).

According to the comparative satellite map in Fig. 5, it can be seen that the invasion event occurred at chulucuo in luolazhi mountain pass. Even the map drawn by India itself shows that the large and small fish tail areas (in the red circle of Fig. 7) belong to China. The Indian map also shows that the Indian Army crossed the McMahon line advocated by India for 25 kilometers and reached the lolarachi pass deep in China (red star in Fig. 8).

In 2017, the Indian army in Doklam crossed the line 200 meters, in 2020, the Indian army in Galwan crossed the line 3 kilometers, and in 2022, the Indian army dared to cross the line 25 kilometers without being beaten by our side. Lolalazhi mountain pass is an important passage for our side to the big fish tail area. If a confrontation is formeId here, we may lose control of the big fish tail area. The McMahon line has been illegally imposed on us. Indian is not satisfied with this. They are trying to cross the McMahon line and continue to invade our fish tail areas. The total area is about 1500 square kilometers, which is 25 times the area of the disputed area of Bangong Lake (60 square kilometers)!

So now PLA is strengthening its position to block our patrol basically in your land

 

[skunk works]

not big deal but interesting development

chinese building feeder roads to valleys we have little easy access. we have no roads/posts nearby . what could go wrong ?

>Valley
>in India
>still 4 days foot March
>in 2022
>mfw

 

[mokoman]

Chinese fans now also relasese news today about two fish tails:

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The Red Star is the Indian patrol's final point, it says this is 25KM inside China's LAC.

The weibo poster analysis:

The Doklam type Indian army cross-border incident occurred again in the Big Fish Tail area in southern Tibet. On August 11, a number of Indian troops, carrying guns, crossed the China India LAC for 25 kilometers and invaded the big fish tail area in southern Tibet via the kelongnongpu River Valley, reconnoitering and harassing the infrastructure construction personnel on the border (Fig. 1-4).

According to the comparative satellite map in Fig. 5, it can be seen that the invasion event occurred at chulucuo in luolazhi mountain pass. Even the map drawn by India itself shows that the large and small fish tail areas (in the red circle of Fig. 7) belong to China. The Indian map also shows that the Indian Army crossed the McMahon line advocated by India for 25 kilometers and reached the lolarachi pass deep in China (red star in Fig. 8).

In 2017, the Indian army in Doklam crossed the line 200 meters, in 2020, the Indian army in Galwan crossed the line 3 kilometers, and in 2022, the Indian army dared to cross the line 25 kilometers without being beaten by our side. Lolalazhi mountain pass is an important passage for our side to the big fish tail area. If a confrontation is formeId here, we may lose control of the big fish tail area. The McMahon line has been illegally imposed on us. Indian is not satisfied with this. They are trying to cross the McMahon line and continue to invade our fish tail areas. The total area is about 1500 square kilometers, which is 25 times the area of the disputed area of Bangong Lake (60 square kilometers)!

" invaded the big fish tail area in southern Tibet via the kelongnongpu River Valley, reconnoitering and harassing the infrastructure construction personnel on the border (Fig. 1-4)."

i doubt we even approched ur guys , this is on other side ridge anyway .

why does it matter to the chinese where the mcmahon line is. chinese claim entire arunachal pradesh . there is no basis for that .

things like mcmahon line or chinese claim lines dont matter , what matters is the LAC . Chinese havent crossed the LAC 'yet' , they will . indian side have sanctioned about ~30 border outposts along these places.
most likely we will be seeing pangong tso/galwan style clashes along LAC here soon.

 

[Abdus Salem killed]

" invaded the big fish tail area in southern Tibet via the kelongnongpu River Valley, reconnoitering and harassing the infrastructure construction personnel on the border (Fig. 1-4)."

i doubt we even approched ur guys , this is on other side ridge anyway .

why does it matter to the chinese where the mcmahon line is. chinese claim entire arunachal pradesh . there is no basis for that .

things like mcmahon line or chinese claim lines dont matter , what matters is the LAC . Chinese havent crossed the LAC 'yet' , they will . indian side have sanctioned about ~30 border outposts along these places.
most likely we will be seeing pangong tso/galwan style clashes along LAC here soon.

Again ? These fks will never stop GOI should stop everything and make these "border villages"
Dummy places for stationing army all over that's the only way we can stop them otherwise nada we will loose

 

[jai jaganath]

Again ? These fks will never stop GOI should stop everything and make these "border villages"
Dummy places for stationing army all over that's the only way we can stop them otherwise nada we will loose

But fishtail doesn't belong to us right