India-China Border conflict

[InfinityWarrior Thanos]

No, I respect Pakistan army, I did not say Pakistan fought for China.

I mean India and Pakistan are more combustible and prone to war.

I don't think there will be a war between China and India

I think China is very secure militarily,

I too respect Pakistani Army for losing to India in the Wars we have fought.
It shows they have a big heart.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

the last time India and Pakistan fought an air war was three years ago

"Air war" is an interesting way to put it.

India entered pak proper and hit terror camps, pak launched bombs from within pak and turned around. One plane each downed. Its barely a skirmish, not a war by any stretch.

 

[InfinityWarrior Thanos]

"Air war" is an interesting way to put it.

Then Galwan Valley clash was a Ground war….

 

[Marliii]

First, the Diplomat Magazine article indicates that 2015 was primarily a performance issue with the J11A, and the Chinese pilots had such good technology that they were victorious in the WVR
Second, in the 2008 Red Flag military exercise, the Indian pilots performed poorly and did not perform as expected of the su30MKI, while the Indian media carried out crazy PR, boasting a defeat as a victory

I think your understanding is poor

What's such a good technology ? Your whole damn air force has never fought a war .ours had action 3 times against an enemy with technological edge and still won

 

[Marliii]

First, the Diplomat Magazine article indicates that 2015 was primarily a performance issue with the J11A, and the Chinese pilots had such good technology that they were victorious in the WVR
Second, in the 2008 Red Flag military exercise, the Indian pilots performed poorly and did not perform as expected of the su30MKI, while the Indian media carried out crazy PR, boasting a defeat as a victory

I think your understanding is poor

My understanding is reverse gripen gave your pilots a run for money and you did your propanda trying to save face .the red flag exercise even led to an congressional discussion if I am not wrong

 

[Marliii]

Look
You start to panic when I say India is not doing well
start cursing
don't even look at the facts

I never cussed at you.I merely stated the facts.its you get defensive .and we aren't gonna get a shooting squad if we dont parrot our government so

 

[Marliii]

I wish you happy,
If you can't say something useful

You wishing me happiness i usefull huh ? You sure seems sus

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

First, the Diplomat Magazine article indicates that 2015 was primarily a performance issue with the J11A, and the Chinese pilots had such good technology that they were victorious in the WVR
Second, in the 2008 Red Flag military exercise, the Indian pilots performed poorly and did not perform as expected of the su30MKI, while the Indian media carried out crazy PR, boasting a defeat as a victory

I think your understanding is poor

Lol. Chinese did well in WVR because flankers are built for the merge. They did bad in BVR cause chinese sensors are crap.

As for the other article, the claims you are making are the exact opposite of what the article says. Do try to read what you post.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

兄弟，折鞋任易经封了，衣裙闹残

"Brother, the folding shoes are sealed by the Book of Changes, and the clothes are messed up"

What the hell does this even mean.

 

[ym888]

"Brother, the folding shoes are sealed by the Book of Changes, and the clothes are messed up"

What the hell does this even mean.

Chinese military code

Quantum computers can't crack it

 

[Flying Dagger]

First of all, I am Chinese
The first question is that there are fewer airports in China than in India.
In terms of two parts, first of all, the eastern front Aksai Chin, India's airport actually undertakes the combat readiness task for northern Pakistan and the combat readiness task for China, which means that India faces pressure from two directions during the war, Secondly, on the west line to the south of Tibet, what India needs to consider is not only the airport in Tibet, but also a large number of airports in Sichuan and Yunnan.
That is to say, the advantage of more airports in India is not obvious. Of course, after 2020, China is also building a large number of airports.

Tracking China's Sudden Airpower Expansion On Its Western Border

Satellite images raise concerns over Beijing's incredible pace of expansion of its airpower infrastructure along its western flank.

www.thedrive.com

The second question is relatively simple. The problem of the Chinese Air Force. Anyone who knows a little about PLAAF knows the military reform of the Chinese Air Force after 2012.
PLAAF is no longer a weakened version of the Soviet Air Force
Of course, I think the use of Soviet long-range aviation still has a high learning value
If you don't believe it, you can go to the annual US State Department China military assessment report

There is no such thing as Aksai Chin... and there will never be Unless you were making racist jokes on yourself.

It is Aksai Hind and the territory beyond is Tibet occupied by CCP.


And You tiny punks wont survive against us in actual war. You saw what happened in Galwan when those lady boys met real men they shivered and were shitting in their pants.

The Tibetan Force is also along the border and they are well trained and want revenge for their persecution and are motivated unlike Ping pong army soldiers.




then there will be other parties which will involve themselves too.

Taiwan Japan USA Australia Vietnam etc are waiting for the right moment to cut your head off.

And same pakistan you are funding will bite you back for freedom of Xinxiang .

 

[mokoman]

new road overlooking chinese demchok dharna location

chinese are doing dharna somewhere around the circle ,

area is called CNN , y junction , cause valleys make y

havent seen anyone mention it .

 

[vidhwanshak]

And? I dont think India will have much trouble in a war with pak.

10 dinn ki ladaai hai uske baad breach ho jaaenge unke borders.

 

[India Super Power]

I think you should look at authoritative reports, not some obscure tabloids

Flankers vs Gripens: What Happened at the Falcon Strike 2015 Exercise?

A Chinese test pilot’s lecture in December 2019 about the exercise sparked renewed discussion over the details.

thediplomat.com

Due to its non-alignment policy, India has gained a lot of foreign exchange opportunities, but this does not mean that IAF is stronger than PLAAF

Dissecting a dogfight: Sukhoi vs USAF at Red Flag 2008

Contrary to the USAF view of how Exercise Red Flag 2008 panned out, the Su-30MKI made a stellar debut in American airspace.

www.rbth.com

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[Super Flanker]

First of all, su27 can suppress JS39 in WVR. This setting itself is wrong. JAS39 is a very nimble fighter like JF17, with excellent instantaneous angular velocity and excellent rolling performance.
Secondly, the J11A is a su27 and uses an inverted Casseron antenna, the same as the F4's radar
However, it is also confirmed that the PL12 has reached the level of AIM120C5, which is better than the R77 in the hands of India.

What is your proof that "SD-10" has reached the level of AIM-120C5? SD-10 has range of 70-100 kms whereas AIM-120C5 has range of more than 105-110 kms, i agree that SD-10 is a decent BVR but I don't think so that it can match the level of AIM-120C5.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

First of all, su27 can suppress JS39 in WVR. This setting itself is wrong. JAS39 is a very nimble fighter like JF17, with excellent instantaneous angular velocity and excellent rolling performance.
Secondly, the J11A is a su27 and uses an inverted Casseron antenna, the same as the F4's radar
However, it is also confirmed that the PL12 has reached the level of AIM120C5, which is better than the R77 in the hands of India.

"In the hands of India" is also Meteor, Astra, and a host of other missiles. We are not limited to 1-2 .

Also, no. Flankers out-turn the euro-canards (gripen, rafale, typhoon) by a good margin. In case of India, MKIs out-turn by a ridiculous margin, due to added canards.

 

[SwordOfDarkness]

Aksai Chin is a part of Tibet. Since 1271, Tibet has been under the jurisdiction of the Chinese central government. During the civil war in China in the late Qing Dynasty, Britain unilaterally changed its borders and occupied Aksai Chin.Aksai Chin is a Chinese transliteration of Tibetan
According to the borders of the Qing Dynasty, the entire Dalak should be Chinese
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"According to the borders of the Qing Dynasty, the entire Dalak should be Chinese"

Alright, according to his highness "SwordOfDarkness" and his noble councillors, West Taiwan comes under the jurisdiction of the sovereign nation of Taiwan. Now go and tell your government to vacate its lands, k?

 

[India Super Power]

First of all, su27 can suppress JS39 in WVR. This setting itself is wrong. JAS39 is a very nimble fighter like JF17, with excellent instantaneous angular velocity and excellent rolling performance.
Secondly, the J11A is a su27 and uses an inverted Casseron antenna, the same as the F4's radar
However, it is also confirmed that the PL12 has reached the level of AIM120C5, which is better than the R77 in the hands of India.

We have astra mk1 and in near future we will order it in bulk and according to our scientists it's better than r 77
We have our claim also like it has hit something 7 msq rcs in the range of 70-80 km
It's max range is 110km

 

[India Super Power]

These are all tests you are talking about, if there is going to be a war tomorrow, what are the missiles in India's hands? R77
In fact, the mobility of su30MKI is not as good as that of su27, he is too heavy, and the thrust has not increased

Who said you that astra mk1 is in trails it's with iaf in 200 nos
After few months when it will be tested with tejas large orders will be given immediately even we want to phase out r 77
Production won't take much time if order is large and they are also manufacturing 250 nos
Prob is pl-15 equivalent that is astra mk2 it take 2 years
Don't know why astra mk2 is being delayed as it has been manufactured and only trails remaining I think iaf is not in hurry for pl-15 equivalent

 

[Super Flanker]

The standard is different. The data of 105-110KM is tested at a height of 2000m and a speed of Mach 2.
The Chinese standard is 1000m height, Mach 1.2
Similarly, R77 is 80KM under Russian conditions, and 50KM under Chinese standards
Including the 145KM PL15E, the same

Where did you get this information from? Could you please share your sources?

Maybe what you said with regards to range and Speed might be true but you have to agree that the Electronics on the SD-10 is inferior as compared to the AIM-120C.