India-China Border conflict

[thebakofbakchod]

Lmao if we actually believe them then it truly is the definition of asking for it. But then again thanks to our fked up genrils and MOD, peace for now would be the better option unless they shoot first looking at the horrific state of IAF

 

[Optimus]

Not much informative posted wrong thread

 

[Optimus]

This one is important

 

[prasadr14]

So, India just delivered a slap to the chinkies.

Let us see how they respond.
At least the message is pretty clear from Indian side.

 

[Optimus]

So, India just delivered a slap to the chinkies.

Let us see how they respond.
At least the message is pretty clear from Indian side.

“Woh Ishq hi kya, jisme jhakam na ho. Woh Pyar hi kya, Jisme dard na ho. Woh Begum hi kya, jisko BDSM pasand na ho....”
bhai mast hain

 

[Crazywithmath]

Sri Lanka: I can repay you because the Indians just lent me some money

No, they can't. India attached stringet conditions to prevent that from happening. Don't talk about something you have no idea about. They can purchase some oil, food and can barely stay afloat using that loan; nothing more.

They are actually seeking IMF packages to repay foreign debt.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

So, India just delivered a slap to the chinkies.

Let us see how they respond.
At least the message is pretty clear from Indian side.

Not sure what slap you are talking about. This is the same tape recorder playing on repeated tape. Slap would have been raising Tibet, Taiwan and Xinjiang.

 

[prasadr14]

Not sure what slap you are talking about. This is the same tape recorder playing on repeated tape. Slap would have been raising Tibet, Taiwan and Xinjiang.

While I agree with your sentiments, I would say what you proposed is a punch in the nuts.

 

[Covfefe]

Why accept higher loan rates when there are lower ones

Umm, corruption, for starters? Chinese bribe the top leaders and mafias to accept the offers,and don't even allow the terms to be made public. What was the point of keeping CPEC terms secret if there was nothing to hide and it was just a good old development project?Why had the Pakistani authorities to be forced to submit the terms of the debt to IMF when they were stuck with this elephant's foot in their mouth? Why to ask for a separate CPEC authority that doesn't report to the courts within the country? And how did the CPEC authority heading military general of Pakistan end up with millions of dollars so as to open Pizza Chain in the West?
Buy out the corrupt leaders and claim innocent business interests, isn't a logic that flies high

 

[mist_consecutive]

Seems like China wants to buy India on its axis. Disengagement might take place now.

 

[BabaKhalbali]

While I agree with your sentiments, I would say what you proposed is a punch in the nuts.

Siding with Pakistan on Kashmir on record was what?

 

[BabaKhalbali]

Seems like China wants to buy India on its axis. Disengagement might take place now.

You can't have India on your side when you provoke her by siding it with Pakistan.

 

[prasadr14]

Siding with Pakistan on Kashmir on record was what?

it is a punch in the nuts,
their support to Pakistan by arming them and actively supporting them against India is a bullet shot in the gut.

 

[ym888]

Umm, corruption, for starters? Chinese bribe the top leaders and mafias to accept the offers,and don't even allow the terms to be made public. What was the point of keeping CPEC terms secret if there was nothing to hide and it was just a good old development project?Why had the Pakistani authorities to be forced to submit the terms of the debt to IMF when they were stuck with this elephant's foot in their mouth? Why to ask for a separate CPEC authority that doesn't report to the courts within the country? And how did the CPEC authority heading military general of Pakistan end up with millions of dollars so as to open Pizza Chain in the West?
Buy out the corrupt leaders and claim innocent business interests, isn't a logic that flies high

India is no less corrupt than Pakistan



It has nothing to do with government loans



China is not responsible for solving foreign corruption problems, maybe India can?

 

[ym888]

You show it as your gift but when the time comes it becomes debt .pakis are now running to saudi arabia and IMF to pay your loans back

Billions of dollars worth of gifts,



I wish I had one too

 

[Covfefe]

India is no less corrupt than Pakistan

Who told you that? Your CCP handler? And you're gonna post news articles with the search tag Indian corruption next?

It has nothing to do with government loans

On the contrary, it has everything to do with the Chinese predatory loans. Why else would you hide and cover a development project like some defence secret, ask for waiver from the local constitutional norms?

China is not responsible for solving foreign corruption problems, maybe India can?

China is not responsible for solving foreign corruption, but it's definitely responsible for aiding foreign corruption and exploiting the host country locals

 

[ym888]

Who told you that? Your CCP handler? And you're gonna post news articles with the search tag Indian corruption next?

On the contrary, it has everything to do with the Chinese predatory loans. Why else would you hide and cover a development project like some defence secret, ask for waiver from the local constitutional norms?

China is not responsible for solving foreign corruption, but it's definitely responsible for aiding foreign corruption and exploiting the host country locals

The most important thing for developing countries is economic development



Don't throw around first-world nouns. What's that going to do



Developing countries will never get rid of corruption, but they can develop their economies

 

[Covfefe]

The most important thing for developing countries is economic development



Don't throw around first-world nouns. What's that going to do



Developing countries will never get rid of corruption, but they can develop their economies

True, development is necessary. But who is getting developed when money comes at a higher cost, material and labor comes from China, and assets that get developed are out of reach for the locals? What did Pakistanis themselves do in CPEC, except maybe flip some burgers for Chinese engineers? The crux of any infra project is the multiplier effect and a low cost of capital- both of which are taken away by BRI projects- Pakistan's loan portfolio was at more than 4% in dollar terms,(which is higher than a sovereign debt rate if "iron brother" considerations are in place, ADB itself has lent at lesser) and the immense preferential treatment given to Chinese firms, and all the multiplier effect which could've occurred by flowing the money downstream in terms of subcontracting, semi skilled and high skilled labour wages, capability development- all gone for a toss. Infra created didn't follow a desirable process, didn't create a desirable result either (lane traffic in Pakistan is piss poor, cargo handling of Gwadar is nil)

 

[ym888]

True, development is necessary. But who is getting developed when money comes at a higher cost, material and labor comes from China, and assets that get developed are out of reach for the locals? What did Pakistanis themselves do in CPEC, except maybe flip some burgers for Chinese engineers? The crux of any infra project is the multiplier effect and a low cost of capital- both of which are taken away by BRI projects- Pakistan's loan portfolio was at more than 4% in dollar terms,(which is higher than a sovereign debt rate if "iron brother" considerations are in place, ADB itself has lent at lesser) and the immense preferential treatment given to Chinese firms, and all the multiplier effect which could've occurred by flowing the money downstream in terms of subcontracting, semi skilled and high skilled labour wages, capability development- all gone for a toss. Infra created didn't follow a desirable process, didn't create a desirable result either (lane traffic in Pakistan is piss poor, cargo handling of Gwadar is nil)

There is no perfect model. If there were, these countries would already be rich.



China is not the savior and cannot solve all problems.



But China can help you build power stations, railways, ports, highways,


This infrastructure can't be removed and forever serving your country

 

[Butter Chicken]

This is same statement China gives for India