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Army says troops being sent to Saudi Arabia

https://www.dawn.com/news/1389722/army-says-troops-being-sent-to-saudi-arabia

With this move pakis will hav strong saudi support for them.
Saudis may pressurise India to reduce LoC fighting.
A master isn't bound by any obligence towards the slave specially when the slave is a Paki
Arabs will buttfuck Paki and let us do it as well.
Most of Paksis foreign remittance is form SA, Paki general won't utter a single word even if Arab were to take a stinky load of shit in his mouth.
 

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If terrorism is the only issue then it's working fine. But if Kashmir is the issue then it's a big failure. Because Pakistan has managed to lure Kashmiris with the help of Hurriyat. And other chunk is lying into Pakistani hand which Blocks your strategic way to central Asia!!
You say Pakistan has managed to lure Kashmiris with the help of Hurriyat? Nope! Not by a long shot!

Check it out below, an extract of the answer I wrote in the Quora Digest. The question was........

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Why are Kashmiri people against the Indian army? Don't they want to live in India?

I’ve answered part of your question in another similar thread. However, I’ll reproduce portions as well as add some so you know the truth, as well as the hype and politics being played out at the behest of Pak and its agents in Kashmir. Here are the facts:

Separatism: Hype vs the Truth

1. Separatist are present in only 5 districts out of 22 which is 15% of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh and they are all Sunni Muslims.

2. The Shias, Sufis, Hindus, Buddhists and Christians are not separatists.

3. Two of the three regions of J&K are not Muslim majority areas. 85,000 square kilometers are not. When you talk of separatism, there haven’t been any protests against India in these 17 districts out of the 22 in J&K.

4. There’s only one section of community—Kashmiri-speaking Sunni Muslims who have a separatist agenda. When you see a TV debate on Kashmir, who do you see? Omar Abdullah, Mehbooba Mufti, Yasin Malik, Shabbir Shah, Gilani, Asiya Andrabi, Lone etc. All Sunni Muslims only from these 5 districts out of 22!!

5. J&K has around 12 per cent Shia Muslims, around 12-14 per cent Gujjar Muslims and around eight per cent Pahadi Rajput Muslims, Sufis Christians, Buddhists and Hindus. None of these communities have any separatist leaders.

6. When Afzal Guru was hanged, the media made it appear as if the entire state was out on the streets. The reality was that out of 22 districts, there was not a single demonstration in 17 districts and only these five districts in the Valley faced mild demonstrations.

7. Poonch has 90 per cent Muslims but this district is dominated by powerful Sikhs. Kargil has 90 per cent Muslims, Kargil city has more than 99 per cent Muslims but there was not a single protest in those areas.

8. Our perception about J&K is that a battle between nationalism and separatism is going on for past 68 years. Nationalism has neither been lost nor will it, because in most areas of the state, majority of the people are nationalists.

9. There is no dispute over J&K and the only issue relating to the state is how to get back areas that are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan and China.

10. 'Separatism', 'dispute' and 'autonomy' are three myths associated with the state. The common perception is that J&K is a separatist state. This is because J&K is perceived first as just Kashmir - a Kashmir which is a Sunni Muslim Kashmir, a Muslim Kashmir which is a separatist Kashmir - basically a Kashmir where the Indian tricolor is burnt down and Pakistan’s flag is unfurled but only in five districts.

The State should be considered as one entity like Jammu (with maximum of the ground area), Ladakh and only thereafter Kashmir.

Here is a map of the Kashmir Valley marked in orange, consisting of areas where the separatists have an anti India agenda prodded on by the Pakistani Establishment which has been trying to infiltrate terrorists since the past three decades to create mayhem and also provide massive funds to the Hurriyat gang and their cohorts for anti India protests and stone throwing.

As can be seen in the map below, the Kashmir Valley is but a small area of J&K.



Here’s the other side of J&K

Hundreds of Kashmiri youth (below) join the Indian Army after training at the Jammu & Kashmir Light Infantry Regimental Centre in the state’s summer capital, Srinagar.






A proud sister congratulates her brother after the passing out parade




Recruitment test for the J&K Women's Police Wing in Srinagar, Kashmir




A section of youth being selected for recruitment in the Indian Army from the Kashmir Valley



Here’s a video you should see on one of the Indian Army’s Goodwill Schools in kashmir. While some misguided youth in the Valley pelt stones at the security forces at the behest of their Pakistani sponsors for monetary considerations, these Kashmiri children seen in the video below are the future of Kashmir.


And the Pak media and their so called analysts and commentators keep belting out that familiar garbage that there’s a ‘genocide’ going on in J&K!! The propaganda and lies dished out by their ISPR and the Mullah brigade to brainwash the sheeple, is breathtaking in scope and intensity. But now you know!

Mike
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So do you really think that Kashmir is a lost cause? Far from it. The Hurriyat and their yahoo 'army' are in a small minority. What the media shows are just scenes of stone pelting and Paki flag waving which is just one miniscule portion of J&K. The media never highlights the other side.
 
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A master isn't bound by any obligence towards the slave specially when the slave is a Paki
Arabs will buttfuck Paki and let us do it as well.
Most of Paksis foreign remittance is form SA, Paki general won't utter a single word even if Arab were to take a stinky load of shit in his mouth.
Saudi Arabia is a significant player in global affairs. Saudis hav influence in both India and US as well. Saudis in urgent need mercenaries to save their ass from houthis. Pakis wil provide manpower. In return they might get money and reduction in LoC skirmishes
 

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Army says troops being sent to Saudi Arabia

https://www.dawn.com/news/1389722/army-says-troops-being-sent-to-saudi-arabia

With this move pakis will hav strong saudi support for them.
Saudis may pressurise India to reduce LoC fighting.
Porkies have announced their decision to send troops to Saudi Arabia when Iranian President is visiting india.This will further widen the gap between Iran And Pakistan and Iran will be pushed closer to India.....Height of Chutiyapa by Pakistan.
 

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Porkies have announced their decision to send troops to Saudi Arabia when Iranian President is visiting india.This will further widen the gap between Iran And Pakistan and Iran will be pushed closer to India.....Height of Chutiyapa by Pakistan.
Pakis hav no other choice. Saudis r demanding for mercenaries since Yemen war started
 

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Porkies have announced their decision to send troops to Saudi Arabia when Iranian President is visiting india.This will further widen the gap between Iran And Pakistan and Iran will be pushed closer to India.....Height of Chutiyapa by Pakistan.
Look at Pakistan after the Uri attack they have been in a basic free fall be it their economy the politics every tom dick and harry is screwing Pakistan whether she likes it or not the Arabs are pissed as hell with Pakistan and the Iranians are now going to be even pissed now the Afghans are literally jumping with Joy that the Phastoons are revolting and who can forget the brave Baluch who have given the FC and the PA the time of their lives
last but not the least
Muslims who went from India is now demanding that Karachi or Mai kolachi be free even the so-called AJK and GB and Chitral are now having sporadic protest now and then, all in all, I am happy and more pigs are getting halaled per day their media is now seeing Indian hand in all that is happening
 

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You say Pakistan has managed to lure Kashmiris with the help of Hurriyat? Nope! Not by a long shot!

Check it out below, an extract of the answer I wrote in the Quora Digest. The question was........

_____________________________________________________________________________

Why are Kashmiri people against the Indian army? Don't they want to live in India?

I’ve answered part of your question in another similar thread. However, I’ll reproduce portions as well as add some so you know the truth, as well as the hype and politics being played out at the behest of Pak and its agents in Kashmir. Here are the facts:

Separatism: Hype vs the Truth

1. Separatist are present in only 5 districts out of 22 which is 15% of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh and they are all Sunni Muslims.

2. The Shias, Sufis, Hindus, Buddhists and Christians are not separatists.

3. Two of the three regions of J&K are not Muslim majority areas. 85,000 square kilometers are not. When you talk of separatism, there haven’t been any protests against India in these 17 districts out of the 22 in J&K.

4. There’s only one section of community—Kashmiri-speaking Sunni Muslims who have a separatist agenda. When you see a TV debate on Kashmir, who do you see? Omar Abdullah, Mehbooba Mufti, Yasin Malik, Shabbir Shah, Gilani, Asiya Andrabi, Lone etc. All Sunni Muslims only from these 5 districts out of 22!!

5. J&K has around 12 per cent Shia Muslims, around 12-14 per cent Gujjar Muslims and around eight per cent Pahadi Rajput Muslims, Sufis Christians, Buddhists and Hindus. None of these communities have any separatist leaders.

6. When Afzal Guru was hanged, the media made it appear as if the entire state was out on the streets. The reality was that out of 22 districts, there was not a single demonstration in 17 districts and only these five districts in the Valley faced mild demonstrations.

7. Poonch has 90 per cent Muslims but this district is dominated by powerful Sikhs. Kargil has 90 per cent Muslims, Kargil city has more than 99 per cent Muslims but there was not a single protest in those areas.

8. Our perception about J&K is that a battle between nationalism and separatism is going on for past 68 years. Nationalism has neither been lost nor will it, because in most areas of the state, majority of the people are nationalists.

9. There is no dispute over J&K and the only issue relating to the state is how to get back areas that are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan and China.

10. 'Separatism', 'dispute' and 'autonomy' are three myths associated with the state. The common perception is that J&K is a separatist state. This is because J&K is perceived first as just Kashmir - a Kashmir which is a Sunni Muslim Kashmir, a Muslim Kashmir which is a separatist Kashmir - basically a Kashmir where the Indian tricolor is burnt down and Pakistan’s flag is unfurled but only in five districts.

The State should be considered as one entity like Jammu (with maximum of the ground area), Ladakh and only thereafter Kashmir.

Here is a map of the Kashmir Valley marked in orange, consisting of areas where the separatists have an anti India agenda prodded on by the Pakistani Establishment which has been trying to infiltrate terrorists since the past three decades to create mayhem and also provide massive funds to the Hurriyat gang and their cohorts for anti India protests and stone throwing.

As can be seen in the map below, the Kashmir Valley is but a small area of J&K.



Here’s the other side of J&K

Hundreds of Kashmiri youth (below) join the Indian Army after training at the Jammu & Kashmir Light Infantry Regimental Centre in the state’s summer capital, Srinagar.






A proud sister congratulates her brother after the passing out parade




Recruitment test for the J&K Women's Police Wing in Srinagar, Kashmir




A section of youth being selected for recruitment in the Indian Army from the Kashmir Valley



Here’s a video you should see on one of the Indian Army’s Goodwill Schools in kashmir. While some misguided youth in the Valley pelt stones at the security forces at the behest of their Pakistani sponsors for monetary considerations, these Kashmiri children seen in the video below are the future of Kashmir.


And the Pak media and their so called analysts and commentators keep belting out that familiar garbage that there’s a ‘genocide’ going on in J&K!! The propaganda and lies dished out by their ISPR and the Mullah brigade to brainwash the sheeple, is breathtaking in scope and intensity. But now you know!

Mike
___________________________________________________________________


So do you really think that Kashmir is a lost cause? Far from it. The Hurriyat and their yahoo 'army' are in a small minority. What the media shows are just scenes of stone pelting and Paki flag waving which is just one miniscule portion of J&K. The media never highlights the other side.
If kashmiris are with us then why India lacks confidence in referendum? And I am not asking this question it's the porkis I am only rephrasing it because we do not have any answer. Then the GOI remains mum and says oh well this is due to terrorism. I repeat GOI does not want to talk on Kashmir be it POK!
This simply shows the rest of India does not trust Kashmiris.
And porkis know it.






Please let's move this Kashmir issue on some other thread.
 

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Army says troops being sent to Saudi Arabia

https://www.dawn.com/news/1389722/army-says-troops-being-sent-to-saudi-arabia

With this move pakis will hav strong saudi support for them.
Saudis may pressurise India to reduce LoC fighting.
Porkis make everything they do, even driving Taxi in USA as a strategic strength. The reality is always otherwise.

They are a state on rent, always short of money; at war with Hindus.

They suck the best out of their national budget, then they sell eggs and biscuits, larger chunk comes from terror enterprise, then they always have some hyper power daydreamer ready to invest billions to have this decorated presstitute with loose Geographic Zipper by his side.

If they are still short of their money they rent their army.
 

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Saudi Arabia is a significant player in global affairs. Saudis hav influence in both India and US as well. Saudis in urgent need mercenaries to save their ass from houthis. Pakis wil provide manpower. In return they might get money and reduction in LoC skirmishes
You are selvam I think ?
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Army says troops being sent to Saudi Arabia

https://www.dawn.com/news/1389722/army-says-troops-being-sent-to-saudi-arabia

With this move pakis will hav strong saudi support for them.
Saudis may pressurise India to reduce LoC fighting.
Oh my

Jaan hazir hain muslim ummah k liye!!

Apna mulk sambhala jata hain nahi chalay arab peninsula par fatah karnay.

On topic..This has been going on for quite some time now.The number of troops deployed always varied.

And i dont think it will let to anyone pressurising us on the LOC.
 

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You say Pakistan has managed to lure Kashmiris with the help of Hurriyat? Nope! Not by a long shot!

Check it out below, an extract of the answer I wrote in the Quora Digest. The question was........

_____________________________________________________________________________

Why are Kashmiri people against the Indian army? Don't they want to live in India?

I’ve answered part of your question in another similar thread. However, I’ll reproduce portions as well as add some so you know the truth, as well as the hype and politics being played out at the behest of Pak and its agents in Kashmir. Here are the facts:

Separatism: Hype vs the Truth

1. Separatist are present in only 5 districts out of 22 which is 15% of Jammu, Kashmir & Ladakh and they are all Sunni Muslims.

2. The Shias, Sufis, Hindus, Buddhists and Christians are not separatists.

3. Two of the three regions of J&K are not Muslim majority areas. 85,000 square kilometers are not. When you talk of separatism, there haven’t been any protests against India in these 17 districts out of the 22 in J&K.

4. There’s only one section of community—Kashmiri-speaking Sunni Muslims who have a separatist agenda. When you see a TV debate on Kashmir, who do you see? Omar Abdullah, Mehbooba Mufti, Yasin Malik, Shabbir Shah, Gilani, Asiya Andrabi, Lone etc. All Sunni Muslims only from these 5 districts out of 22!!

5. J&K has around 12 per cent Shia Muslims, around 12-14 per cent Gujjar Muslims and around eight per cent Pahadi Rajput Muslims, Sufis Christians, Buddhists and Hindus. None of these communities have any separatist leaders.

6. When Afzal Guru was hanged, the media made it appear as if the entire state was out on the streets. The reality was that out of 22 districts, there was not a single demonstration in 17 districts and only these five districts in the Valley faced mild demonstrations.

7. Poonch has 90 per cent Muslims but this district is dominated by powerful Sikhs. Kargil has 90 per cent Muslims, Kargil city has more than 99 per cent Muslims but there was not a single protest in those areas.

8. Our perception about J&K is that a battle between nationalism and separatism is going on for past 68 years. Nationalism has neither been lost nor will it, because in most areas of the state, majority of the people are nationalists.

9. There is no dispute over J&K and the only issue relating to the state is how to get back areas that are under the illegal occupation of Pakistan and China.

10. 'Separatism', 'dispute' and 'autonomy' are three myths associated with the state. The common perception is that J&K is a separatist state. This is because J&K is perceived first as just Kashmir - a Kashmir which is a Sunni Muslim Kashmir, a Muslim Kashmir which is a separatist Kashmir - basically a Kashmir where the Indian tricolor is burnt down and Pakistan’s flag is unfurled but only in five districts.

The State should be considered as one entity like Jammu (with maximum of the ground area), Ladakh and only thereafter Kashmir.

Here is a map of the Kashmir Valley marked in orange, consisting of areas where the separatists have an anti India agenda prodded on by the Pakistani Establishment which has been trying to infiltrate terrorists since the past three decades to create mayhem and also provide massive funds to the Hurriyat gang and their cohorts for anti India protests and stone throwing.

As can be seen in the map below, the Kashmir Valley is but a small area of J&K.



Here’s the other side of J&K

Hundreds of Kashmiri youth (below) join the Indian Army after training at the Jammu & Kashmir Light Infantry Regimental Centre in the state’s summer capital, Srinagar.






A proud sister congratulates her brother after the passing out parade




Recruitment test for the J&K Women's Police Wing in Srinagar, Kashmir




A section of youth being selected for recruitment in the Indian Army from the Kashmir Valley



Here’s a video you should see on one of the Indian Army’s Goodwill Schools in kashmir. While some misguided youth in the Valley pelt stones at the security forces at the behest of their Pakistani sponsors for monetary considerations, these Kashmiri children seen in the video below are the future of Kashmir.


And the Pak media and their so called analysts and commentators keep belting out that familiar garbage that there’s a ‘genocide’ going on in J&K!! The propaganda and lies dished out by their ISPR and the Mullah brigade to brainwash the sheeple, is breathtaking in scope and intensity. But now you know!

Mike
___________________________________________________________________


So do you really think that Kashmir is a lost cause? Far from it. The Hurriyat and their yahoo 'army' are in a small minority. What the media shows are just scenes of stone pelting and Paki flag waving which is just one miniscule portion of J&K. The media never highlights the other side.
This is what i have been saying since 10 years.

Look at the broader picture.

But Delhi wants to butt lick these traitors and put crores in their ass.

Media shows only stone pelters.Where does this JAKLI,JAKRIF,DOGRA and LADAKH SCOUTS unit gets its troops from,,there might be more than a lac troops in the Indian Army from this state alone so where does this come from...what about JKP and JKAP and SOG..
 

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Lately I have come to the conclusion that long term objective of surgical strike was to do what IA is doing precisely doing now.

Objective being to hunt pakis from our own backyard. One of the objectives of Surgical strikes being to stir the hornets nest.

Numbers indicate that more paki soldiers have been taken out (average per year)post-surgical strikes than before. Paki posts are being targeted because paki launch pads are moved closer to paki posts. Paki launch pads have moved closer to paki posts because surgical strikes targeted tango launch pads farther from paki posts. Now paki soldiers are also taken out along with launchpads when ever concentration of tangos increase near their posts. IA is taking them out from our territory, aaram se like shooting fish in a barrel.

Am I making sense?
Making statistical inferences with just two data points doesn't help. Atleast five years data is required post SS to make any meaningful inferences.
 

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Making statistical inferences with just two data points doesn't help. Atleast five years data is required post SS to make any meaningful inferences.
Ideally yes!!!

But

Things are changing so fast now a days in geo politics, five years is too long to make an initial assessment.

many external factors have also changed for Pakistan . Ex: trump won, modi making friends in West Asia, CPEC is not turning out to be as expected, balochis and Pashtuns are taking paki military with rejuvenated vigour and so on, IA blasting the hell out of paki posts.

More importantly my post is in line a comment I made during SS, whether it was a inflection point in our pak policy we would have to wait and see. For me it looks like a inflection point.
 
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