Russia Ukraine War 2022

Who will win this war?.


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Master Chief

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Again talking about hindsight. They had hopes for manuevering back then. Takes a while to make some changes to the tactics and strategy.
It doesn't matter if you have only 2 dozen of bestest Armata.. 2000 T-72B3 are preferable anyway.. and that has been the Russian Army philosophy.. And Russia has already lost a lot of T-72B3s..
 

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It doesn't matter if you have only 2 dozen of bestest Armata.. 2000 T-72B3 are preferable anyway.. and that has been the Russian Army philosophy.. And Russia has already lost a lot of T-72B3s..
Your point being? Russia still has the upper hand in tank production.
 

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Your point being? Russia still has the upper hand in tank production.
Point being Russia does not have a 1000 Armata or a 1000 T-90M waiting for NATO.. Russian Army chose to go for good enough T-72B3 in their thousands, rather than investing in a few hundred T-14s..
 

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Couldn't find any article that talks about Russia using 3BM32 vant DU round in Ukraine.
Snivets-1 is tungsten penetrator.. Snivets-2 or Vaccum is depleted uranium. Anyway Snivets 2 is overkill..

Depleted uranium rounds are known to have caused increased incidence of cancer in Iraq and Serbia..
We have captured the ZNPP. a radioactive mine was flooded, hundreds of other environmental problems and worrying about the level of oncology because of hundreds of penetrators - it's just ridiculous. Besides, there is no direct evidence. And different from others. Odessa "leaded" in the number of cancers due to Soviet equipment at the ammonia plant. Replaced it and the growth of diseases dropped significantly.
 

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Is that your greeting line towards your customers, especially those military recruiters? Is that how you stay behind not fighting on the front? :truestory:
It seems @Akim has got some sort of minority rights or women's rights that's why all his abuses has been spared on DFI.

Had it been anyone else? Must have banned at least 5 times.

I must say that we had done injustice with @Varzone
 

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We have captured the ZNPP. a radioactive mine was flooded, hundreds of other environmental problems and worrying about the level of oncology because of hundreds of penetrators - it's just ridiculous. Besides, there is no direct evidence. And different from others. Odessa "leaded" in the number of cancers due to Soviet equipment at the ammonia plant. Replaced it and the growth of diseases dropped significantly.
Blahblah blah - why is your ass hurting if Britshits are exposed for the proliferators that they are.
 

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Is that your greeting line towards your customers, especially those military recruiters? Is that how you stay behind not fighting on the front? :truestory:

You may want to check in with your gynecologist for a health check up. Those visits can have a health effect, you know?
Is there someone else here from Ukraine? Or is it unpleasant for pro-Russian trolls to admit defeat?
 

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Why is depleted uranium more dangerous than tungsten? In this war, both the Soviet Vant and the Russian Svinec-1, which have a depleted uranium penetrator, have long been used.
It catches fire when in contact with air and the particles are radioactive. Everywhere its been used has higher cancer rates. I think it should be banned worldwide.
 

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Nobody cares about you, your whole country is just canon fodder. We will see what rest of Europe thinks about getting their ass nuked.
However, only Russia is concerned about uranium penetrators. Europe doesn't care about them. and myths about ecology. Russian tanks don't give a damn about them.
 

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Europe doesn't care about them. and myths about ecology.




IRAQI CHILDREN BORN NEAR U.S. MILITARY BASE SHOW ELEVATED RATES OF “SERIOUS CONGENITAL DEFORMITIES,” STUDY FINDS
“The war has spread so much radiation here that, unless it is cleaned up, generations of Iraqis will continue to be affected.”
Study:

The available evidence suggests possible associations between exposure to depleted uranium and adverse health outcomes among the Iraqi population. More primary research and the release of missing data are needed to design meaningful health and policy interventions in Iraq.
 

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It catches fire when in contact with air and the particles are radioactive. Everywhere its been used has higher cancer rates. I think it should be banned worldwide.
Who in the UN spoke about this problem? Is there any resolution?
 

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Looks like Russia's Bakhmut offensive has stalled, and a major Ukranian offensive to free the chokehold on Bakhmut is expected soon..
 

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Then why Russia used thousands of T-72B3 and T-80BVM tanka in the war ? They could have started with T-54 IN 2022,then T-62, and preserved T-72B3 and T-90 BVM to fight against NATO..
Past 8 months has been set piece battles, why bring out T-54 now? RUSSIA could have brought out T-34 and T-54 8 months ago.. The best tanks that Russia has/had in significant numbers are T-72B3
might have missed this answer since lots of posts but....

This news site says Russia has lots of 100mm ammo. Might as well use it.

 

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Past 8 months has been set piece battles, and attrition. There has not been much manuevering. Why bring out T-54 now? RUSSIA could have brought out T-34 and T-54 8 months ago.. The best tanks that Russia has/had in significant numbers ( thousands) are T-72B3.
The notion that Russia is saving its best tanks for NATO is absurd..

It doesn't matter if you have only 2 dozen of bestest Armata.. 2000 T-72B3 are preferable anyway.. and that has been the Russian Army philosophy.. And Russia has already lost a lot of T-72B3s..
There are few reasons why Russia bring out T54 now.

1) Ukrainian army is exhausted compare to start of war, also know as Target softening

2) Why not use T54 now if they have any utility left otherwise they are no use in future.

3) Most Important one, If you know there are lots of tanks were donated by West and their vassals states. The most of donated tanks consists of T54/55 ( only few are Leopard/T72 for propaganda) so it is best suitable time for Russian to roll T54

5) In a war of attrition, only stupid will use main power horses and keep outdated machine in warehouse.

6) Ukraine situation in war is not as Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-Sickulars are pretending on Twitter. These T54 will be able to make big difference against already under supplied AFU.
 

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