Russia Ukraine War 2022

[LETHALFORCE]

That good for nothing nehru also hired britfags backlet who adviced him hillarious shiet as do not make nukes police will take care of borders and defence expenditure must be kept low otherwise army would deports his inefficient arse in random coup.

Giving up Tibet without a fight was also a major mistake. Don't think anyone in
history ever gave up a territory like that for free. Yes Tibet was part of India IMO.

 

[Akim]

You think the west cares about Ukraine? they light the fire in your country to burn Russia and they wouldn't allow peace either. Your dumb/corrupt leadership willingly became a US tool/cannon fodder in the fight

Who cares what the West wants. The Russians attacked.

 

[JBH22]

In a way, I look forward to the sanctions. It would force the lazies in MoD to speed up the make in India defence projects and come closer to the achievement of Aatmanirbhar Bharat Abhiyan.

Well yes could be a blessing in disguise at least they will stop with Mars and Pluto requirements for gun trials etc since import will be curtailed.

We have to get the Kaveri program back on track. Get our own flying testbed and start the heck out of R&D the Kaveri engine to the point where it meets the needs of the LCA program.

It may but it is a niche technology which is withheld by most states. Even China spent money like crazy but could not get a decent engine.
Russian have steadily improved with feedback from India and change in strategy, but still long way to catch up.

 

[Akim]

I admire your courage & Ukrainians have put up hell of a fight ; but it doesn't cover up for the fact that only nuclear weapons could have saved Ukraine . After the war , instead of joining NATO make your own nukes & Russia won't attack you again.

The use of nuclear weapons will start a chain of destruction of the planet.

 

[indiatester]

Who cares what the West wants. The Russians attacked.

How is the situation now in Odessa?
Previously, Russia was concentrating forces around it. Now have they moved back towards Donbas, or is it still in the Russians interest to take Odessa making Ukraine a land locked country?

 

[couchPotato]

Who cares what the West wants. The Russians attacked.

Your leadership should care because the west put ya all in this situation where Russia was forced to attack. It helps further their agenda and your corrupt leaders were just happy to oblige.

 

[SARTHAK]

WTF.. Ukranians taking down a Russian Ka-52 attack helicopter with Stugna ATGM..

any atgm can hit stationary helo( source sameer sir(ex iaf pilot and main contributor in CATS project)

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Giving up Tibet without a fight was also a major mistake. Don't think anyone in
history ever gave up a territory like that for free. Yes Tibet was part of India IMO.

Yes.

Tibetan script derives a lot of material from Bharat's script including Brahmi viz Sambhota in 700 ad Indian Buddhist Monk. Bon texts state very clearly that the holy mountain Mount Kailash was in the center of the Kingdom of Zhang Zhung which was the closest neighboring kingdom to Tibet.

In case you want to check out.

https://defenceforumindia.com/threads/the-blunderboy-nehru.82772/

 

[Akim]

And we do not wish to side the imperialist british on matters of war in a 3rd country.
We speak english out of convenience since it is international language of business and because some of our people did not want to be dominated by hindi .. so it is a compromise. Something your country could have learnt.

When India was at war with Pakistan, she did not refuse to buy British weapons. What matters is the end result.

 

[mokoman]

Giving up Tibet without a fight was also a major mistake. Don't think anyone in
history ever gave up a territory like that for free. Yes Tibet was part of India IMO.

Tibet was independent . during british india and after our independence.

IMHO we wouldnt be able to fight the Chinese over the himalayas in Tibet even if we wanted to.

Nehru was still a failure , op to take over Tawang was supposedly done without his knowledge , he wouldnt have approved it .

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Tibet was independent . during british india and after our independence.

IMHO we wouldnt be able to fight the Chinese over the himalayas in Tibet even if we wanted to.

Culturally the Tibet has been always into the sphere of Bharat.

 

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[Flying Dagger]

The planes crashed due to lack of spares due to the collapse of USSR. IAF tried to find a solution for it but it fell short. When USSR was in power, the crash rate was substantially less. Anyway, I look forward the LCA replacing the 21s en masse.

More importantly we loaded them up with modern avionics for which they hardly had enough space. The modern missiles like R-73 etc . The engines are working overtime and they had the most no. Of sorties too in the history of IAF.


The Spares are usually stripped from old jets.. they were supposed to retire in 90s but due to Mirage Deal failure we kept the production run a longer and then had surplus of them.

The 2012 deadline was also extended till 24-25. And they are still not duds atleast.

 

[Akim]

If you still don't understand who set you on this collision path, then good for you. Once you enter NATO and EU rivers of milk and honey will flow in Ukraine. No need to work, address governance issues and structural economic problems, society flaws. Automatic you become hero from zero.
It is the secret sauce for success, because let's face it west has an altruistic motive in seeing prosperous Ukraine.

You are talking nonsense. An example is Bulgaria. It lives no better than Ukraine, but develops according to normal rules.

 

[JBH22]

No

When India was at war with Pakistan, she did not refuse to buy British weapons. What matters is the end result.

No when India fought Pakistan, the west lavishly funded their army and gave all weapons, till 2010s they were getting fat package for afghan operation.

We were and are a poor country, with 2 nuclear enemy. Back it the days with limited resources and barter USSR gave us decent weaponry and training and we smashed most of our opponents.

MIG 21 shredded their F 86 sabres, F 104 etc
Missile boats destroyed their ports in karachi.

So for India it is only post 2000s that we started having some interesting deal from the west . But we all know it is temporary because even if we are not anti west they are already seeing us as an existential threat. Even though we say that we want to remain neutral.

 

[Cheran]

The United Nations’ General Assembly voted on Thursday to suspend Russia from the UN Human Rights Council. The US-proposed resolution received 93 votes, with 24 countries opposed and 58 abstaining.

China, a fellow permanent Security Council member, was a prominent “no” vote. Among the abstentions, the most prominent were India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and South Africa.

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The United States has unilaterally closed communication channels with Russia regarding cybersecurity, Russian Security Council Deputy Secretary Oleg Khramov has said.

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[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

When India was at war with Pakistan, she did not refuse to buy British weapons. What matters is the end result.

No.

 

[JBH22]

You are talking nonsense. An example is Bulgaria. It lives no better than Ukraine, but develops according to normal rules.

For fuxk sake, Bulgaria is a dwarf 6mio people what is it nothing. It can only bend and take it up. You think it is an independent state, EU told them to fvk off pipeline poor guys lost sweet trransit money which ss we speak victim Ukraine is still getting paid.

 

[Akim]

And we are still fighting against the remnants of that British Empire...

It's a shame you chose to work with those colonizers like Britishers Americans French Spain etc Not just that your constant support to Pakistani Defence establishment which is behind Taliban is a shameful chapter in the recent existence of Ukraine.

Your Karma never leaves you ...

What goes around comes around... May be that's the payback for what Uzov did to ethnic Russians.

I don't think there is an imperial mentality left in Britain.

 

[mokoman]

Culturally Tibet has been always into the sphere of Bharat.

yea , but even then independent Tibet only existed about 40 years .

frankly sucks that mount Kailash is in China , if it was closer to our border , could have been possible to annex to India under some pretext .

indians needing atheist CCPs permission to visit kailash is an insult.