Their are many speculation abt engines which can be polish or Russian..
Then we have to wait for this information.
Forget the 2000 trilas the Arjun induction and being a fav machine in IA is because of recent ones..
T-90S was meant to be Army replacement for T-72 but as gradually Russian Raw material costs raised and by then army already ordered some 600+ tanks, it was impossible to go back so T-90 is still meant to replace all T-72 and more Arjun will be induced after Avadi finished with T-90s..
Avadi will take 10 more years to finish with the T-90. If major Arjun inductions happen after that, then I am all for it. Right now, it only serves to distract the army from other troubling events like failing grenades and getting better weapons and equipment for the infantry. There is also the question of Helicopter Gunships. Why force the Army to waste funds on tanks when there are more lucrative equipment to induct.
Preparation are done in Army HQs, future of IA is all abt T-90 & Arjuns..
Regarding Transportation i have mentioned in my earlier post..
Yes. If the Arjun inductions happen after the 2015 period when we have already kicked out the obsolete T-72s, then I am game.
It is silly to ask the army to induct a second set of tanks when they already have a 1000 extra tanks in the pipeline until 2020.
U dont know much abt Army do you?
Its nothing to do with 'extra personnel and extra pay' that extra solider was doing his general duties when the regt was operation T-tanks now he will be act as a loader, Its a good news!!
I will take your word for it.
6 regt is huge!!
If u know how thing work..
I asked u before where the most T-55s are stationed now, and why they are still in business?
If u find out, u will understand the purchase of Light tanks..
Definitely not in Kashmir and the NE. That's where most of our new light tanks will be headed.
As of today India has 400+ operational, modified T-55s. Once they are gone, they will be replaced with modified T-72s and T-90s and not the light tanks that we are inducting.
It does not matter where the T-55s are active as of now. The question is where the light tanks will be active and definitely not where the T-55s are. Not to mention 400 Vijayantas fall in the same category. So, a total of 1000 tanks will be replaced with 300 tanks. See the point, the numbers don't match up. The light tanks are for a different need compared to the existing need for the T-55s and the Vijayantas. Also, the initial requirement is 100 tanks and not 300.
The T-55s are being replaced with T-72M1s while the older T-72s are being replaced by T-90s.
These ERAs are non-detachable!
All ERA is detachable. T-90s have been tested for multiple hits and the ERA has been replaced after each hit every time. ERA is meant to be detachable because their shelf life is the same as ammunition. ERA is a type of ammunition too.
1KW is a joke. The radar of LCA takes 10 times more power than that, much less the rest of her avionics. Western tanks have APUs generating in the 20KW range. There is a reason for it. There are several scopes, sensors, transmit/receive antennas, radios, monitors, warning receivers, AC, navigation, battle management, and any equipment you might need charged. Least of all not forgetting to keep enough power to charge a 230kg power pack.
Joke of the century. LCA radars will not go above 1KW and with average power at 500W.
The Su-30MKK that China uses has a radar that has a peak power of only 3.5KW.
Western tanks have powerful APU in order to move the turret and shoot.
A superior APU means a superior tank 99% of the time as it isn't running. The APU is used not only in a defencive posture, but makes maintenance far easier as you do not have to hook the batteries up to recharge the power pack. If your tank breaks down that only requires a few hours fix, you do not have to have a recovery vehicle tow your ass back to the nearest jack as you can recharge your own batteries. A cavalry charge deep into the heart of Pakistan still requires an APU. You will not defeat them in one day. Tanks will still be sitting idle and you will receive PA counter attacks. IA cannot transport enough fuel to keep 1000 tanks running 24/7 with the addition of all other vehicles. There will be supply lines whose job it is for tanks to guard, they will sit idle.
Advantages are many. But requirement does not exist as of now.
You can't even get all jawans with night vision goggles and you talking about completely networked forces.
The sole reason why I want the IA to pursue better things in life rather than go for a second tank. Tanks wins battles, Infantry wins wars. Better guns, better equipment and trying to increase an infantry man's survivability are better goals than a second tank that does not give a capability boost.
India's network isn't for offensive but defensive. Once the troops cross into Pakistan they will be out of reach of India's secure communications network and have to rely on low bandwidth LOS microwave transmitters. It is only enough for secure digital communications between leadership and maybe some compressed photo sets or small video streams from UAVs. To network 300,000 troops operating in enemy territory you will need a dozen of the latest SATCOMs and much higher bandwidth for mobile M/W transmit/recieve stations. Unless of course you plan on going so slow you have enough time to lay fibre optic cables. lol
Sorry. You got that wrong. Our C3I systems are easily among the best in the world. Our CP moves with the Corps. Even NATO does not compare to us in that field. We have a lot of equipment that gives round the clock information security. Satellites are a tiny part of the system and even other militaries are working to get them. We will get them soon too.
It would be silly if a Pak SAM shot down a $10m SAR UAV. Pak Army is not the Taliban with nothing but HMGs or AKMs to shoot them down. In fact, Pakistan's crap air defence is ideal for shooting down any UAV India has. What will you do when UAVs are shot down faster than you recover them? So don't cling to UAV's as the force equaliser as it is like shooting your own foot.
Look at the entire picture. Our air force is superior. We will soon get multiple squadrons of Gunships and maybe UCAVS in the future. UAVs and ICAVs will only be a small part of the entire system.
Russia hasn't provided ToT for modifications. You really are naive about what license production of a tank entails. Russia does not give enough ToT for you to copy or modify the electronics, you just make the hull and some mechanisation parts. The AC is not even Russian, it is Israeli. Of course you will not have the slightest idea how to replace or modify a Catherine FC. If you modify anything you void the maintenance contract. Of course your T-90s do not have APUs, you would need to consult with Russia to add one. That is why it is nice to have an indigenous tank like Arjun that you can let DRDO test their equipment with. You can't do that with the T-90s without consulting Russia, then if you screw with the 3rd party equipment Russia then has to consult with them.
The conditions Arjun faced were worse in 2000 when the whole world was against us. We had sanctions remember. Do you thing the Arjun was such a viable investment when everything it was made with came from either Germany or Israel. FCS, Engines, Transmissions, Brakes, Tracks and a million other parts. The Arjun was the worst choice in the world. The T-90 was nearly sanction proof in comparison.
It didn't take 12 years, MTU didn't start tropicalising them until 2007 after the Arjun broke down during trials. India had to order it first. You can blame your own penny pinching bureaucracy for that.
It started in 2003-04, not 2007. Earler it was DRDO trying to fix the existing engines which were procured before 1998. Arjun had no future. Atleast ADA came out with their own technology for the LCA as a replacement. Without foreign assistance any of our current projects were a failure. The Army always looks at the big picture, who wouldn't when nearly everything in the tank was bought and assembled from outside.
The point IA made was the same thing we are saying for our MRCA when we say the US fighter will be sanctioned. All of electronics in the Arjun was sanctioned. Even the engines and tracks were sanctioned. The project got a breath of life only in 2003 after many of the sanctions were lifted. Only France provided electronics and that brought about the Russian-French cooperation for the Catherine. India benefited from this even though sanctions were in place. Everything else in T-90 was Russian or from Eastern Europe(Sanction proof).
Blame that on defective engines.
Right! When there are nearly 40000 tanks running around the world based on Russian engines. You have no clue as to what is good or what is bad. There are more Russian tanks in the world than there are Western combined. Funny how nobody is complaining.
The Matis Pakistan is getting is the standard version with detection at 13km and recognition at 6km.
http://www.sagem-ds.com/pdf/en/D1232.pdf
The Matis LR detects at 18km and recognises at 10km.
http://www.sagem-ds.com/pdf/en/D1235.pdf
They are usually commander sights used for spotting, while the Catherine series is generally used as a gunner's sight. Although, the Matis can be used for fire control. I am not sure which Pakistan is using it for. If it is for a gunnery sight, the T-90 would have a serious problem.
Well, then we will discuss them once the contract is signed.
How can you replace it when you do not make it? You going to replace it with an empty brick when Russia can't deliver on time?
You are basing this on speculation that Russia will not provide any kind of license manufacturing rights. I can say that Russia already has. That will not take us anywhere.
Which is why India has the OFB... no ERA there.
DRDO makes ERA. ERA have been added to T-72s.
http://www.drdo.org/explosive.html
The ERA technology has met all the requirements of the user and was accepted for introduction into the Indian Army. The production of ERA panels has commenced in the Ordnance factories.
Time already told, they did not transfer ERA ToT.
We don't need ToT for license manufacture.
Phalcon only tracks 100 targets, it has less processing power than JSTARS. Phalcons flying 100km inside Indian territory will not be able to pick up anything on the ground of the Pak side. It can't even pick up a terrain hugging cruise missile at 100km. It is an L-Band radar, not an X-band which means lower power output. India's is a passive AEW platform, nothing more.
The 100 figure on Phalcon is for airborne targets while 600 on J-Stars is for ground targets. The processing on the Phalcon far outweighs the J-Stars. You can figure it out by just calculating the amount of thrust the 2 aircraft give out. There is a reason why the 4 engines on the Phalcon has twice the thrust than what the J-Stars gives out when both are more or less the same loaded weight.
Funny how you came up with the word "passive." LOL.
What is that supposed to mean? Does the US have "active" AWACS then. I am sure this has nothing to do with the antennas.
Mobile SAM uses a radar, which is far easier to detect than its RCS backed against immediate ground clutter.
Huh! Phalcons are the best operational radars flying to date in an airforce. It is capable of picking up a person walking on the ground. If you find it hard to believe go ask the Israelis. The SAR capability on the Phalcon is nearly 1m, both men and tanks are a bit taller than 1m. It means anything above a metre above the ground is detectable by the Phalcon. Go read up on SAR.
