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bro tag the concerned person u wanna taunt..i pointed out very valid points as per my knowledge..u are free to counter all my posts point by point.
I agree with what you are saying, I am further adding to ur point that the IA is unable to carry out ANY offensive operations- at best it can hold some land against the Pakis or these Chinese.

What kind Of army can successfullyattack a fellow nuclear state when they don’t even have standardized uniforms.
 

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I agree with what you are saying, I am further adding to ur point that the IA is unable to carry out ANY offensive operations- at best it can hold some land against the Pakis or these Chinese.

What kind Of army can successfullyattack a fellow nuclear state when they don’t even have standardized uniforms.
i dont endorse your point that indian army cannot defeat bangladesh.

Further, i said that we can attack but not hold any territory inside Pakistan for long.

Ukraine's motivation is nothing compared to islamic unity and funding that will come incase of such an assualt.
 

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i dont endorse your point that indian army cannot defeat bangladesh.

Further, i said that we can attack but not hold any territory inside Pakistan for long.

Ukraine's motivation is nothing compared to islamic unity and funding that will come incase of such an assualt.
India can hold POK, but the method will be playing their game against them (ie pure ruthlesness).
 

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India can hold POK, but the method will be playing their game against them (ie pure ruthlesness).
how? The Paki's used the brute Force method in the late 2000s (forgetting the op name)- they even used tanks, Offensive Air and heavy artillery against entire villages. They ended up loosing nearly 700 SSG personel and still couldnt put down the Insurgency.

We dont have the Monetary resources or the Mil Infrastructure to HOLD POK - look at the terrarin. Can we secure the borders of POK - from the north and west? Can we hold a supply chain from India to POK in that terrain. Can we transport Heavy Weapons in an AO where Zero Infra has taken place? The OPFOR for POK logically will be

1. Pak Army
2. Pak based Jihadi Irregulars
3. Haqqani Network
4. Taliban and Afghanistan based Support
5. Chinese Logistics train + Distraction on the China border

At best we will commit 60% of our resources with a Mix of upto date and dated Equipment - To Hold POA you will need at least 1:6 the Man Power simply for Population 'Pascification' keeping in mind the irregular OPFOR. Will we 'Hold' for 12 months? Do we have the abiltity to launch sustain Winter Ops of the kind you are talking. Even 60% is would be execssive for POK. The Paks will logically open multiple fronts across the IB.

Lastly - what is the objective of Holding POK? Obsorbing it into Indian Territory or turning it into No Mans Land or only using as a bargaining chip to negotiate with Pak? How much will that integarion cost - Will the local Population be expelled or integrated? Administration Cost to build up the infra we broke down?

What if We get sanctioned by OPEC and China backed countries? Do we have the fuel reserves for a Holding Op + a potential 2 front flairup - no way china is staying out of this. will the US back us at the risk of Joining a conflict with a Peer Power?
 

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how? The Paki's used the brute Force method in the late 2000s (forgetting the op name)- they even used tanks, Offensive Air and heavy artillery against entire villages. They ended up loosing nearly 700 SSG personel and still couldnt put down the Insurgency.

We dont have the Monetary resources or the Mil Infrastructure to HOLD POK - look at the terrarin. Can we secure the borders of POK - from the north and west? Can we hold a supply chain from India to POK in that terrain. Can we transport Heavy Weapons in an AO where Zero Infra has taken place? The OPFOR for POK logically will be

1. Pak Army
2. Pak based Jihadi Irregulars
3. Haqqani Network
4. Taliban and Afghanistan based Support
5. Chinese Logistics train + Distraction on the China border

At best we will commit 60% of our resources with a Mix of upto date and dated Equipment - To Hold POA you will need at least 1:6 the Man Power simply for Population 'Pascification' keeping in mind the irregular OPFOR. Will we 'Hold' for 12 months? Do we have the abiltity to launch sustain Winter Ops of the kind you are talking. Even 60% is would be execssive for POK. The Paks will logically open multiple fronts across the IB.

Lastly - what is the objective of Holding POK? Obsorbing it into Indian Territory or turning it into No Mans Land or only using as a bargaining chip to negotiate with Pak? How much will that integarion cost - Will the local Population be expelled or integrated? Administration Cost to build up the infra we broke down?

What if We get sanctioned by OPEC and China backed countries? Do we have the fuel reserves for a Holding Op + a potential 2 front flairup - no way china is staying out of this. will the US back us at the risk of Joining a conflict with a Peer Power?
Holding pok is impossible as u mentioned about terrain is not at all suitable for invasion and Pakistan has deep infiltrated network
I don't know how people live in fantasy of capturing pok through force
Neither presently we have capability nor in near future
Even if we get enough capability we can't due to terrain and porkies establishment
Pok is a gone case better leave it or use it to trouble porkies that's it
 

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how? The Paki's used the brute Force method in the late 2000s (forgetting the op name)- they even used tanks, Offensive Air and heavy artillery against entire villages. They ended up loosing nearly 700 SSG personel and still couldnt put down the Insurgency.

We dont have the Monetary resources or the Mil Infrastructure to HOLD POK - look at the terrarin. Can we secure the borders of POK - from the north and west? Can we hold a supply chain from India to POK in that terrain. Can we transport Heavy Weapons in an AO where Zero Infra has taken place? The OPFOR for POK logically will be

1. Pak Army
2. Pak based Jihadi Irregulars
3. Haqqani Network
4. Taliban and Afghanistan based Support
5. Chinese Logistics train + Distraction on the China border

At best we will commit 60% of our resources with a Mix of upto date and dated Equipment - To Hold POA you will need at least 1:6 the Man Power simply for Population 'Pascification' keeping in mind the irregular OPFOR. Will we 'Hold' for 12 months? Do we have the abiltity to launch sustain Winter Ops of the kind you are talking. Even 60% is would be execssive for POK. The Paks will logically open multiple fronts across the IB.

Lastly - what is the objective of Holding POK? Obsorbing it into Indian Territory or turning it into No Mans Land or only using as a bargaining chip to negotiate with Pak? How much will that integarion cost - Will the local Population be expelled or integrated? Administration Cost to build up the infra we broke down?

What if We get sanctioned by OPEC and China backed countries? Do we have the fuel reserves for a Holding Op + a potential 2 front flairup - no way china is staying out of this. will the US back us at the risk of Joining a conflict with a Peer Power?
India cant even take Lahore let alone POK. India doesnt even have the offensive capability to deal with Bangladesh, or hell, even Nepal. So you are right.
 

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India cant even take Lahore let alone POK. India doesnt even have the offensive capability to deal with Bangladesh, or hell, even Nepal. So you are right.
We can take Lahore in 24 hours. Bangladesh and Nepal in 48 hours.
 

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We can take Lahore in 24 hours. Bangladesh and Nepal in 48 hours.
Lahore i bet 2 weeks Nepal in 35 hours in a hypothetical scenario , Bangladesh is small but dense so it might take long depending on circumstances maybe 3 months if we're lucky
 

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Best way to invade a country is to destabilize it first like creating civil war. Then u pick a side to support , once tht is done, u fund them and give them arms. Then later u cry about refugees and human rights violation done by other side to the UN as excuse to invade . Last part is invasion. To hold on to the land , u place a puppet as there leader and they will help to control the population from uprising through militias who support u. THE END. The name of the invasion should be operation Pakistani freedom or Nepali freedom just in case if the U.S questions us.
 
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how? The Paki's used the brute Force method in the late 2000s (forgetting the op name)- they even used tanks, Offensive Air and heavy artillery against entire villages. They ended up loosing nearly 700 SSG personel and still couldnt put down the Insurgency.

We dont have the Monetary resources or the Mil Infrastructure to HOLD POK - look at the terrarin. Can we secure the borders of POK - from the north and west? Can we hold a supply chain from India to POK in that terrain. Can we transport Heavy Weapons in an AO where Zero Infra has taken place? The OPFOR for POK logically will be

1. Pak Army
2. Pak based Jihadi Irregulars
3. Haqqani Network
4. Taliban and Afghanistan based Support
5. Chinese Logistics train + Distraction on the China border

At best we will commit 60% of our resources with a Mix of upto date and dated Equipment - To Hold POA you will need at least 1:6 the Man Power simply for Population 'Pascification' keeping in mind the irregular OPFOR. Will we 'Hold' for 12 months? Do we have the abiltity to launch sustain Winter Ops of the kind you are talking. Even 60% is would be execssive for POK. The Paks will logically open multiple fronts across the IB.

Lastly - what is the objective of Holding POK? Obsorbing it into Indian Territory or turning it into No Mans Land or only using as a bargaining chip to negotiate with Pak? How much will that integarion cost - Will the local Population be expelled or integrated? Administration Cost to build up the infra we broke down?

What if We get sanctioned by OPEC and China backed countries? Do we have the fuel reserves for a Holding Op + a potential 2 front flairup - no way china is staying out of this. will the US back us at the risk of Joining a conflict with a Peer Power?
I am shocked that defence forum junta thinks like taking POK is like taking ice cream.

Even China didnt attack India yet because it thought about what we are trying to indicate here.
 

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how? The Paki's used the brute Force method in the late 2000s (forgetting the op name)- they even used tanks, Offensive Air and heavy artillery against entire villages. They ended up loosing nearly 700 SSG personel and still couldnt put down the Insurgency.

We dont have the Monetary resources or the Mil Infrastructure to HOLD POK - look at the terrarin. Can we secure the borders of POK - from the north and west? Can we hold a supply chain from India to POK in that terrain. Can we transport Heavy Weapons in an AO where Zero Infra has taken place? The OPFOR for POK logically will be

1. Pak Army
2. Pak based Jihadi Irregulars
3. Haqqani Network
4. Taliban and Afghanistan based Support
5. Chinese Logistics train + Distraction on the China border

At best we will commit 60% of our resources with a Mix of upto date and dated Equipment - To Hold POA you will need at least 1:6 the Man Power simply for Population 'Pascification' keeping in mind the irregular OPFOR. Will we 'Hold' for 12 months? Do we have the abiltity to launch sustain Winter Ops of the kind you are talking. Even 60% is would be execssive for POK. The Paks will logically open multiple fronts across the IB.

Lastly - what is the objective of Holding POK? Obsorbing it into Indian Territory or turning it into No Mans Land or only using as a bargaining chip to negotiate with Pak? How much will that integarion cost - Will the local Population be expelled or integrated? Administration Cost to build up the infra we broke down?

What if We get sanctioned by OPEC and China backed countries? Do we have the fuel reserves for a Holding Op + a potential 2 front flairup - no way china is staying out of this. will the US back us at the risk of Joining a conflict with a Peer Power?
Yeah. It’s not the age of war as Modi said to Putin, an unprovoked assault after the Ukrainian war will not be responded to positively by the world, forgetting the kinetic deficiencies of the Indian military.

Just let the Pak experiment play out, POK will come back to india- not tomorrow, maybe 20 years down the line maybe 100 (that’s as long as a cuck GoI doesn’t agree to making the LOC an IB which does seem to be on the cards every now and then)

the bigger priority until then has to be restoring Kashmir’s demographics- listen to the Pakis/Islamists, this is the thing they fear the most now, their perverse distortion post 1990s is a blip and should be treated as such. Forget about taking more territory, shore up the territory already in india, don’t let those thugs roam around butchering the non-Muslims/outsiders.
 

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That Elbow and knee pads make me cringe and I don't think it's necessary to have 'CAMMANDO ' on their T-shirts. Rest of it is OK comparing to Indian standards.
Yeah pretty much but at least it doesn’t say ‘special forces’ as some NSG shirts have said in the past. Would be better to have nothing on the back of their combat shirts or a logo at most but for the clout….

+ elbow pads on the range? When will they learn?
 

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