Indian Special Forces

[NoobWannaLearn]

Pak was also their? I dont think we'd show them our tactics or stuff. Teaching tomorrow's enemies today.

Hopefully not

 

[ALBY]

The Nukes minimise the chances of war not get rid of it, Operation Parakram is something right? . Army is supposed to fight conventional war and not be a source of funding for the SF. Let the SF have their own structure and funding something like the Poles where they are treated as different branch of armed forces because we dont have 700-800 billion USD as budget. Also CIT X and J were used against Pakistan and Khalistani Terrorist and they were effective in their job heck they were formed specially for that.

LET ARMY be ARMY and SF be SF.

Any source of writeup on workings of CITx and J? Had asked manytimes in this thread but no success till now

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Can hal convert luh into little birds for sf if needed?

 

[SGOperative]

Can hal convert luh into little birds for sf if needed?

Pressing X to doubt

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Pressing X to doubt

Why they have proved themself that they can make good choppers maybe sf dosent want it or something else

 

[SGOperative]

Why they have proved themself that they can make good choppers maybe sf dosent want it or something else

Arre you asked if LUH can be converted into Little Birds, that might require many structural changes which might not be economical since SF aint gonna be inducting 100s of em.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Arre you asked if LUH can be converted into Little Birds, that might require many structural changes which might not be economical since SF aint gonna be inducting 100s of em.

Aacha sorry so if needed after the apparent theaterization and a sf command they will probably need to work on new project for it?

 

[SGOperative]

Aacha sorry so if needed after the apparent theaterization and a sf command they will probably need to work on new project for it?

idk bout that but, LUH should be able to take majority ops required. SOCOM used the birds to land in very compact urban areas

 

[Jedi Operator]

Any source of writeup on workings of CITx and J? Had asked manytimes in this thread but no success till now

I think one,

 

[Floydian]

I wonder if the Porkis actually attended this event! Didn't see their men in any of the pics...

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

idk bout that but, LUH should be able to take majority ops required. SOCOM used the birds to land in very compact urban areas

I see tnx

 

[Spadex]

I wonder if the Porkis actually attended this event! Didn't see their men in any of the pics...

Ceremonially they'll join

 

[ManhattanProject]

Can hal convert luh into little birds for sf if needed?

Yes, there are already plans for a armed version.

 

[Aditya Ballal]

US Jugaad, effective though.

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Yes, there are already plans for a armed version.

Oh that's amazing news do we have any renders or something?

 

[abingdonboy]

US Jugaad, effective though.

That’s smart, I’ve never seen that before. Induce a failure so you have to do the stoppage drills live

 

[Aditya Ballal]

MARCOS with an IWI X-95 and Mepro-MOR (covered). As well as a TASL Helmet with an Armasen Tactical Helmet cover and SF RIG, at Sabarmati Waterfront rehearsing for Defexpo-22 related displays.

 

[binayak95]

How is that thinking wrong in conventional war? SF have an important role but their missions will be to support the advance of the conventional forces, or perform niche roles in a overall spectrum.
IF Para SF have to be utilised at their max potential their administrative command has to be taken away from a conventional force. Hence the idea of a separate command exists at all, and it wont be coming from inside the army ever until a SF officer becomes a general or something and the MOD will have to push here.

Yeah which is why we saw Spetsnaz and VDV troops get massacred tackling worthless objectives.

SF units are supposed to be used as precision instruments at the enemy's key assets. C2 nodes, Artillery units, undertake sabotage, deep recce - things that enable and empower your conventional units to increase their efficacy manifold times.

And its not as if IA is blind to this, just the last 40 years of CI/CT have blunted the blade.

 

[SGOperative]

Yeah which is why we saw Spetsnaz and VDV troops get massacred tackling worthless objectives.

SF units are supposed to be used as precision instruments at the enemy's key assets. C2 nodes, Artillery units, undertake sabotage, deep recce - things that enable and empower your conventional units to increase their efficacy manifold times.

And its not as if IA is blind to this, just the last 40 years of CI/CT have blunted the blade.

It was VDV which was taking the heat because of how they were used. Spetsnaz from both the nations were taking on Ambush missions much more often and were quite successful in it and if you are not blind i asked to seperate the Army from SF, so SF can focus on Unconventional and Convention together.

Pretty sure the rest of the world is then who are rushing to separate the Administrative command tho.

 

[rkhanna]

SFs wont be doing the counter offensive, it would be regular Army units who would strike and hold the captured ground.

You didnt quiet understand what i was saying.

Commando Units imbedded with Regular army will lead a counter offensive and break dead locks

True SOF in the 21st centuary sense are untethered by Tactical gain losses on the battlefield. they are tasked with making a strategic impact elswhere from Tactical Theaters - forcing the enemy to move to YOUR battle plan.

Exampls

1. In a war with Pak - SOF should mobilze the balouchy resistance and in FID mode hit pak strat infra - Ports, Water, Comms etc forcing Pak to divert resources and time away from their eastern front and areas of concentration.
- Embedded actions in conjunction with offensive Intel operations against softer targets - Mil Command, SSG HQ, ISI HQ, Civilian leadership etc

2. Against China - same inside tibet - the Chinese Logistics chain will be long - hit those airfields / disrupt their supply chain using a combination of force and EW/Cyber Warfare - disrupt their ability to manouver inside their OWN country.

Commando units will always be at the front and 'behind enemy lines' for them will always be shallow incursions from the front only