Indian Special Forces

[abingdonboy]

"He however said he was not aware of the reports about the Rafale fighter aircrafts to be based at AFS Hasimara in North Bengal. Air Vice Marshal Singh was speaking to the media during a visit to the airbase where the second hub — Raiding Raptors (87 Squadron) — of C-130J Super Hercules has become fully operational with six aircrafts, meant for transporting troops for special operations, recently."

So the Veiled Vipers and Raiding Raptors are SOF sqdrns?

From the outset they were designated as SOF airlift. I’m not sure exactly how much they actually prepare for this mission but it means that least that they are at a higher level of preparedness than most transport squadrons hence why they are often the first birds into emergency scenarios

 

[abingdonboy]

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Pretty ninja indeed.

-No integrated knee pads is a real shame for a ‘new’ uniform
-No COMTACs here at such a public high profile event shows that they are not very widespread in the unit
-The covers on the weapon sights doesn’t bother me too much but it’s weird they’ve gone for the tan finish which stands out quite a bit against the black uniforms and thus defeats the point. Similarly UCP helmet covers
- square cut plates, just why?

+ I thought MARCOs would be more OPSEC conscious than this (the guys on the boats Are wearing large name tags and none of them are hiding their face)

++ I thought MARCOs(East) were the ones that had Black as their standard uniform and who first showed the black multicam? I’d assume these guys are from MARCOs(West)?

Minor points maybe but they all add up and make the difference between good and expert

 

[STORE]

 

[Jedi Operator]

Pretty ninja indeed.

-No integrated knee pads is a real shame for a ‘new’ uniform
-No COMTACs here at such a public high profile event shows that they are not very widespread in the unit
-The covers on the weapon sights doesn’t bother me too much but it’s weird they’ve gone for the tan finish which stands out quite a bit against the black uniforms and thus defeats the point. Similarly UCP helmet covers
- square cut plates, just why?

+ I thought MARCOs would be more OPSEC conscious than this (the guys on the boats Are wearing large name tags and none of them are hiding their face)

++ I thought MARCOs(East) were the ones that had Black as their standard uniform and who first showed the black multicam? I’d assume these guys are from MARCOs(West)?

Minor points maybe but they all add up and make the difference between good and expert

First and foremost, It's not that guys from either coast have different standard uniforms, secondly having spoken to a retired MARCO, he told me that MARCOS and Army SF only do military ops and thus it is not violating opsec. I personally dont agree with him on this, so wont comment.
I agree on the tan colored rifle and UCP helmet, they dont blend with the black multicam at all.
Lastly, someone just posted here i guess that marcos tried the integrated knee pads and didnt like them. I dont see any sense in it. Their was a photo of navy clearance divers/ or maybe MARCOS wearing them. But again, as with equipment, some sense has prevailed amongst Garud and MARCOS, but still we have some way to go.

 

[Jedi Operator]

First and foremost, It's not that guys from either coast have different standard uniforms, secondly having spoken to a retired MARCO, he told me that MARCOS and Army SF only do military ops and thus it is not violating opsec. I personally dont agree with him on this, so wont comment.
I agree on the tan colored rifle and UCP helmet, they dont blend with the black multicam at all.
Lastly, someone just posted here i guess that marcos tried the integrated knee pads and didnt like them. I dont see any sense in it. Their was a photo of navy clearance divers/ or maybe MARCOS wearing them. But again, as with equipment, some sense has prevailed amongst Garud and MARCOS, but still we have some way to go.

Here it is, integrated knee pads i guess CD?

@abingdonboy dont tell me this shit is for design?

 

[abingdonboy]

First and foremost, It's not that guys from either coast have different standard uniforms, secondly having spoken to a retired MARCO, he told me that MARCOS and Army SF only do military ops and thus it is not violating opsec. I personally dont agree with him on this, so wont comment.
I agree on the tan colored rifle and UCP helmet, they dont blend with the black multicam at all.
Lastly, someone just posted here i guess that marcos tried the integrated knee pads and didnt like them. I dont see any sense in it. Their was a photo of navy clearance divers/ or maybe MARCOS wearing them. But again, as with equipment, some sense has prevailed amongst Garud and MARCOS, but still we have some way to go.

As far as OPSEC goes, there’s a reason why almost every security forces member in JK wears a face cover. In this day and age it’s even easier to identify and then track individuals using purely open source methods. These guys can never say where they’ll be serving next or what they’ll be asked to do, any sensible adversary will be keeping an active list of individuals attached to certain units and trying their best to use this information for their advantage

this is before I even get into the honey trap stuff

elite unit members should not be advertising their affiliation with such units whilst serving, it is far too readily exploited

 

[abingdonboy]

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Here it is, integrated knee pads i guess CD?

Those are wet/dry suits

 

[NoobWannaLearn]

Which comtacs did marcos buy?

 

[rkhanna]

I think most important are the launch and recovery mediums/platforms because they determine how further you operate with your SF. Take this as an example:
Delta Force's blunder in Operation Eagle Claw, made them and SEAL Team 6 being used tactically during Grenada, Panama & 1st Gulf War rather than strategically with the only exception of rescue of a CIA asset from an Panamanian prison.
Similarly, Bravo Two Zero failed it's mission to destroy scud missiles because they choose to patrol on foot rather than use a land rover which other SAS teams did and were successful
In 2003 invasion of Iraq at midnight a small white propeller aircraft descended out of the darkness about 115 miles northwest of Baghdad. The plane had been in the inventory for years but had never before been used for a clandestine infiltration. Now its two Echo Squadron pilots were a hundred miles behind enemy lines searching through their night vision goggles for a place to land. There was no airfield—not even a dirt strip—nearby. Again what would determine how far it would land, I say that if launch and recovery platforms determine how far an SF team can go, the converse is also true. Up ahead, on the only paved road for miles around, they spotted the glow of an infrared chemical light a 24th Special Tactics Squadron operator had placed where he wanted them to touch down. Aligning the aircraft with the thin black ribbon across the desert, the lead pilot lowered the plane until the wheels screeched on the tarmac and the aircraft came to a rest. That allowed Delta to insert into Iraqi territory and use vehicles to go in the 'deepest that any special forces unit was ever able to insert into another country's border'.
Now you see for yourself, what I takeover from this is:
* Logistics is the most important, no matter how tough nuts the commandos are
* Support elements in form of Special Forces or Human Intelligence should guide the Logistics platforms
- This determines how far deep behind enemy lines you can go, this ultimately determines what task you will be assigned be it

Will recommend also reading Masters of Chaos by Linda Robinson

 

[ManhattanProject]

Which comtacs did marcos buy?

Safariland Liberators.

 

[ManhattanProject]

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Where did all those Mechanix gloves go?

 

[Automatic Kalashnikov]

 

[Jedi Operator]

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By the way are those tiger stripes with MARCOS. Never seen this before man

 

[Rahul19]

Is it just me or does that helmet not fit him?

 

[Spadex]

Multicam black, what you guys think

 

[Spadex]

 

[vidhwanshak]

Can anyone tell me if marcos have suffered any casualty in ops or not?

Multicam black, what you guys think

 

[Spadex]

Marcos multicam black. The Officer leading Marcos modernization program must be living in 2047 . He is god far ahead of us human

 

[Jedi Operator]

Can anyone tell me if marcos have suffered any casualty in ops or not?

5 Till now:

I have always been trying to research on their stories. Here's what I have found, about all of them:

Lt Dharambir Singh and his buddy Petty Officer Mahavir Singh died that fatefull day. The idea was that since MARCOS were clearance diver qualified, they would help difuse mines. But I think after than MARCOS kept E.O.D guys from CD teams attached to them. Honestly, sad for both of em' but it is difficult to be jack at being a shooter and EOD guy. My condolences for their family.

Then came, Leading Seaman Umakant Panigrahi awarded Shaurya Chakra posthomously.

Then, the same year, I assume from the same team, another commando Leading Seaman BG Powar was killed in a vehicular ambush while rescuing an injured army Jawan from the burning vehicle in Kashmir. Couldn't find anything other than this:

Then in 2009, in an operational environment similar to where Major Mohit Sharma fought for the last time, we had Petty Officer Chandrashekhar who was also awarded Shaurya Chakra posthumously. Luckily his buddy survived who was shot at the neck. But I've heard Chandrashekhar's back got severed with bullets and shrapnel.

 

[vidhwanshak]

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I have always been trying to research on their stories. Here's what I have found, about all of them:

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Lt Dharambir Singh and his buddy Petty Officer Mahavir Singh died that fatefull day. The idea was that since MARCOS were clearance diver qualified, they would help difuse mines. But I think after than MARCOS kept E.O.D guys from CD teams attached to them. Honestly, sad for both of em' but it is difficult to be jack at being a shooter and EOD guy. My condolences for their family.

Then came, Leading Seaman Umakant Panigrahi awarded Shaurya Chakra posthomously.
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Then, the same year, I assume from the same team, another commando Leading Seaman BG Powar was killed in a vehicular ambush while rescuing an injured army Jawan from the burning vehicle in Kashmir. Couldn't find anything other than this:

Then in 2009, in an operational environment similar to where Major Mohit Sharma fought for the last time, we had Petty Officer Chandrashekhar who was also awarded Shaurya Chakra posthumously. Luckily his buddy survived who was shot at the neck. But I've heard Chandrashekhar's back got severed with bullets and shrapnel.
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I don't think this section has been touched till now in the thread.

Thanks for sharing valuable info.