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Joint exercise. Must have begged to Russian to let them use it for one time!!
No, those aren't comtacs. They cover only one ear. Even we have a few of those. See ADGPI's Para promo on YT. But they are just about the same as what Para use in the field, the only advantage being that they can be attached to the helmet. And they are bigger and more cumbersome. Useless, that is why Para don't use them much IMO.

On a side note, those guys don't even hold the M4 the proper way. They're using magwell grip. Even IA infantry doesn't do that. Speaks volumes about their training levels.
 

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Any more updates on the Toll plaza op? The PM was briefed about it, doesn’t seem like a standard encounter

SF involvement seems to have been pre-planned. This was an ambush it seems like
 

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Any more updates on the Toll plaza op? The PM was briefed about it, doesn’t seem like a standard encounter

SF involvement seems to have been pre-planned. This was an ambush it seems like
Large amount of IED was recovered, it is serious as it happened after huge air activity by porkistan.
 

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Any more updates on the Toll plaza op? The PM was briefed about it, doesn’t seem like a standard encounter

SF involvement seems to have been pre-planned. This was an ambush it seems like
JKP SOG plays the major role in this operation
 

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Any more updates on the Toll plaza op? The PM was briefed about it, doesn’t seem like a standard encounter

SF involvement seems to have been pre-planned. This was an ambush it seems like
Thought so...
My guess would be intel based op. The forces knew that there was going to be an attack, and were dealing with trained terrorists, and hence called in Para SF in case of worst case scenario. And they were nearby. Nagrota is where 15 Corps HQ is, if I'm not mistaken. Was definitely going to be an Uri style attack..
 

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On a side note, those guys don't even hold the M4 the proper way. They're using magwell grip. Even IA infantry doesn't do that. Speaks volumes about their training levels.
Nothing wrong with a magwell grip per se. Sure it's not the best, especially in CQC - but if you've been clearing rooms or rucking it across terrain for hours, holding it by the magwell is pretty much the only way you can keep your support arm from giving out due to fatigue.

IA infantry doesn't do it because our infantry rifles (INSAS, AKs) don't have magwells outside the receiver. They just have the mag itself. Holding it improperly there might actually unseat a worn-out mag. Still have seen some of our guys do it. A MARCOS member was holding MP-5 by the mag (terrible move).

Btw, the guy in red square is actually Russian.
 

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Nothing wrong with a magwell grip per se. Sure it's not the best, especially in CQC - but if you've been clearing rooms or rucking it across terrain for hours, holding it by the magwell is pretty much the only way you can keep your support arm from giving out due to fatigue.

IA infantry doesn't do it because our infantry rifles (INSAS, AKs) don't have magwells outside the receiver. They just have the mag itself. Holding it improperly there might actually unseat a worn-out mag. Still have seen some of our guys do it. A MARCOS member was holding MP-5 by the mag (terrible move).

Btw, the guy in red square is actually Russian.

Oh, makes sense then. AKs tend to get really hot near the gas block, which prompts them to hold the magazine or use the old soviet manual of arms stance. I think the magazine grip what is taught in the current Russian manual of arms. I don't think holding the magazine is a problem with AKs per se as the locking system is pretty solid, *if done properly*.
 

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Most likely cause it happened in Jammu and not Kashmir, and the terrorists were Paki Jaish who infiltrated from across, so stakes are slightly higher compared to your average local militant. SF were also called in Nagrota last year in almost identical encounter, although CRPF QRT had already eliminated the terrorists by then. Not sure if that was the case today as well.
My guess would be intel based op. The forces knew that there was going to be an attack, and were dealing with trained terrorists, and hence called in Para SF in case of worst case scenario. And they were nearby. Nagrota is where 15 Corps HQ is, if I'm not mistaken. Was definitely going to be an Uri style attack..


What additional capability did sf bring other than they that would be more accurate ? Honestly any IA soldier who has experience in COIN in Kashmir could have done it.

But on the other hand if you think about it. With the intell before hand there is no way SF wouldn't be put in alert to take care of any unknowns.

And honestly once on alert, if those boys even hear about the potential for a firefight there is no way they wouldn't wiggle there way and lead the damn thing.
 
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