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India should but advance
India should take mig29 and su30 even if old airframes.

Increasing numbers is critical as war is near.

yes right but all things will be like a scrap unless until we dont have capability to hit J20,J31, SU35 .

yes for su30 We should buy new fast engine & new advance missile .

keep mind china and prepare for that
 

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India should but advance



yes right but all things will be like a scrap unless until we dont have capability to hit J20,J31, SU35 .

yes for su30 We should buy new fast engine & new advance missile .

keep mind china and prepare for that
If su30 can't hit Chinese birds than Chinese jets also can't hit any indian fighter. Chinese missile are far shitty than even Russian older ones.

J20 is useless otherwise they wouldn't buy su35.

Su35 missiles rvv sd, bd are being trialled on su30 MKI right now .

Rafale with meteor is coming and derby ER will come with lca mk1a. Meteor will also go for mirage.

We have huge advantage over china as China has no western weaponry.

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If su30 can't hit Chinese birds than Chinese jets also can't hit any indian fighter. Chinese missile are far shitty than even Russian older ones.

J20 is useless otherwise they wouldn't buy su35.

Su35 missiles rvv sd, bd are being trialled on su30 MKI right now .

Rafale with meteor is coming and derby ER will come with lca mk1a. Meteor will also go for mirage.

We have huge advantage over china as China has no western weaponry.

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Meteor cant be uses in mirage 2000 I believe......
If yes then iaf should integrate meteor in mirage 2000

I have never heard meteor operational with mirage 2000
Its mica ir with 80km range which is used in mirage 2000
 

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If su30 can't hit Chinese birds than Chinese jets also can't hit any indian fighter. Chinese missile are far shitty than even Russian older ones.

J20 is useless otherwise they wouldn't buy su35.

Su35 missiles rvv sd, bd are being trialled on su30 MKI right now .

Rafale with meteor is coming and derby ER will come with lca mk1a. Meteor will also go for mirage.

We have huge advantage over china as China has no western weaponry.

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You forget the no
Chinese has j10..j16...j15....j20....
In large no...
But we have 200 odd su30s....
And Chinese now has s400...........
 

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The best weapons in the world are of no use if they remain sitting in storage. One must have the conviction to use the means at ones disposal at the right time and place.

For the PLA, they have large numbers of everything but their weapons and tactics remain both untested and of suspect / dubious capability. Everything "known" about their systems comes from their own boasting rather than any proven or verified neutral source. Whenever any of their systems have actually been used, the deficiency has been rapidly exposed. They are good at propaganda thats all
 

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YES , FUCKING YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS A VERY WISE DECISION!
Very true, 63 + 34 would mean 2 additional sqds on top of the 3. I think during next overhauls these should be upgraded with AESA if possible and all aspect TVC.
 

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You forget the no
Chinese has j10..j16...j15....j20....
In large no...
But we have 200 odd su30s....
And Chinese now has s400...........
Chinese also have to face US forces surrounding it. And Japanese airforce and also Taiwan which can declare independence in any crisis.

Chisese are facing atleast 1000 advanced fighter jets on eastern front with USA Japan and Taiwan.

Than there is Vietnam and India. Also Russian frontier can't be left empty.

Against all these threats Chinese have 300+ su30 clones ( j11-15-16) and 300 j10. Rest are all 3rd gen garbage pieces.

Moreover against India on Tibet Chinse jets can't carry any meaningful payload due to rarefied air.
While Indian jets can carry full load from planes .

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Meteor cant be uses in mirage 2000 I believe......
If yes then iaf should integrate meteor in mirage 2000

I have never heard meteor operational with mirage 2000
Its mica ir with 80km range which is used in mirage 2000
Since meteor can mate with gripen E it should be able to mate with mirage. Mirage has an all European radar after all. The only problem could be lack of aesa on mirage which could limit meteors range. Half the French airforce is still consist of mirages.

Anyway more rafale are coming.

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Very true, 63 + 34 would mean 2 additional sqds on top of the 3. I think during next overhauls these should be upgraded with AESA if possible and all aspect TVC.
Our old mig29 (63-66) just finished upgrading and are due to be retired by 2030. So not much chance of aesa for them.

What we are getting from Russia can be given aesa but that will raise cost and then probably buying new mig35 with aesa would be more feasible.

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Also add the new RVV-BD and other new A2A missiles and these can run circles around the Chinks and Pukis.
Rvv BD is AWACS killer. Against fighters we need rvv_sd with 110 km range .

Although chines AWACS don't work. Paki had them but uses Swedish AWAC against india .

We'll be wasting missile on Chinese junk AWACS which anyway is useless. Lol.

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We are using R-73E wvraam with our fleet of non upgraded Mirage 2000I TI.

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Six of the Mirage 2000 among the twelve had a load out of

1 Spice 2000
2 RPL-541 2000 ltr subsonic drop tanks
2 R-73E

The other six carried the Crystal Maze standoff PGM.

And some Mirage in the formation would have carried ecn pods. Remora or Pajfa.
 

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We are using R-73E wvraam with our fleet of non upgraded Mirage 2000I TI.

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Six of the Mirage 2000 among the twelve had a load out of

1 Spice 2000
2 RPL-541 2000 ltr subsonic drop tanks
2 R-73E

The other six carried the Crystal Maze standoff PGM.

And some Mirage in the formation would have carried ecn pods. Remora or Pajfa.
This g@yW@d actually posted from Aero India?
 

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Apparently IAF had carried out another strike way back in 2002 in POK using Mirages.
 

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#ExGaruda2019 : The sixth edition of Indo-French air exercise 'Garuda' at France will consist of IAF's 04 Su-30 MKI frontline multi-role fighter jets & 01 IL-78 tanker. IAF's 02 C-17 Globe Master will provide transport support for induction/de-induction for the exercise.
 

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https://www.eastmojo.com/arunachal-...nachal-everester-who-helped-iaf-in-rescue-ops

AN-32 crash: Meet Arunachal Everester who helped IAF in rescue ops


Taka Tamut, 27, who himself made headlines by scaling Mt Everest last year, was one of the 15 members that undertook the 18-day mission to retrieve bodies of 13 air warriors from mishap site in Siang



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01 Jul, 2019 at 17:06 PM



Taka Tamut with other members of the search and rescue team in Arunachal Pradesh
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Itanagar : A missing aircraft, lives of 13 air warriors on board and several media reports of the ill-fated aircraft going missing were what prompted Taka Tamut, an Everester from Arunachal Pradesh in Northeast India, to voluntarily participate in the search and rescue operation initiated by the Indian Air Force (IAF) and the local administrations of Siang, Lower Siang, West Siang and Shi-Yomi districts.

In a telephonic conversation with EastMojo, 27-year-old Tamut, who himself made headlines by climbing Mt Everest in May last year, narrated his memorable experience of the 18-day-long operation, which finally ended on June 29, to locate and retrieve the bodies of the 13 air warriors from the crash site.


Taka Tamut after scaling Mt Everest in May last year
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Tamut was one among the 15-member rescue team which was left stranded following bad weather at the site where the aircraft had crashed on June 3.

“I was thoroughly following local media reports on the missing aircraft as it was untraceable for almost two days despite the IAF putting all its efforts. I tried to find out ways to contact the authorities concerned to let them know about the ways I could be a part of the search and rescue operation,” said Tamut.

“On June 5, two days after the aircraft had gone missing, I, along with one of my mountaineer friends, left for Pasighat, the headquarters of East Siang district, from Itanagar. Before that, I bought all the equipment required for trekking including shoes, rain coats, ropes, tents, etc,” said Tamut.

Immediately after reaching Pasighat, Tamut contacted Siang deputy commissioner Rajiv Takuk over the phone and told him about his plan to voluntarily participate in the search and rescue operation.

“Thankfully, the DC allowed me and my friend to join the operation and also provided us with five low-altitude porters as we had to carry food, equipment and many other materials required for the trek. By the time we started the journey, we were accompanied by three more high-altitude porters,” Tamut said.


Taka Tamut (sitting, centre) before the commencement of his journey to locate the ill-fated aircraft in Arunachal Pradesh
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The team then moved towards Bele-Molo village through Kaying circle on June 8 from where their actual journey on foot for Payum started.

Tamut said that there was a lot of confusion in the beginning of their journey as the IAF personnel asked them not to leave for Payum and according to them the crash site was in Tato, a circle in Shi-Yomi district.

But after a series of discussions and working on the inputs provided to us by the people concerned, we decided to head towards Payum on June 9.

“On reaching Payum, we had a meeting with the locals and the extra assistant commissioner and we were told that some of the villagers had actually seen a plane fly over the village. Working on all the inputs provided, we decided to move towards Gasheng village,” said Tamut.

Tamut told EastMojo that the trek from Payum to Gasheng was one of the most difficult ones as they had to go through a dense forest and it took almost 10 hours on foot to finally reach Gasheng on June 10.


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The downpour was continuous but still we did not stop our journey because it had been already more than a week that the aircraft was missing. During this course of journey, the only thing that kept us going was the thought of the family members of the crew who were on board, Tamuk said.

“On reaching Gasheng, a woman told us that she saw a plane fly over the hamlet and most importantly it was not flying in a steady position. She also told us that when the plane was flying through the passage between Gasheng and Gate village it was totally out of control, however, it somehow managed to cross the pass,” said Tamut.


Taka Tamut along with other members of the search and rescue team camping for the night
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Adding to this, Tamut said they also met a local from Gate village who told them that a local hunter of his village had heard a sound like that of bomb blast near Gate but was not sure from which direction the sound had come from.

Every bit of information they had received till then was being relayed to the district administration.

“We then started to work on all the collected information and eventually came to an understanding that the crash site could possibly be at a pass between Pari Adi and Pahu Dino which is covered with dense forests and is located at a very high altitude. This is when we asked the low-altitude porters to go back and also sent a message to EAC Kaying, who then managed to send us an IAF chopper to carry out a recce,” said Tamut.

On June 11, Tamut boarded an MI-17 helicopter which also had IAF officers and personnel on board from Gasheng and that is when they came across the site where the plane had crashed. By then it was already dark.


On June 11, Taka Tamut boarded an MI-17 helicopter which also had IAF officers and personnel on board from Gasheng
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The search and rescue team after being airdropped near the crash site in Arunachal Prdesh on June 12
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The search and rescue team first landed near this lake near the crash site on June 12
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Another view of the lake near the crash site in Arunachal Pradesh
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Taka Tamut and other members of the search and rescue team at the camp near the crash site in Arunachal Pradesh
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“On June 12, we flew towards the crash site and landed near a lake which was quite far from the crash site. The first rescue team, including me, landed around 9 in the morning. After reaching the camp, I, along with a jawan from the Indian Army, started our trek towards the crash site and by the time we reached, it was already 3:50 pm,” said Tamut.

Tamut said the scene that they came across on reaching the crash site was devastating, as along with the parts of the aircraft, even the bodies of the crew members were lying around everywhere.

“The scene was heartbreaking, that is all I have to say,” said Tamut.


Somewhere near the crash site of the ill-fated AN-32 aircraft in Arunachal Pradesh
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Another view of the mountain near the crash site in Arunachal Pradesh
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An intermediate campsite was then formed at a distance of around 1.5 hours from the crash site in which the rescuers planned their strategies to move the bodies out of the site.

“From June 13, we started to collect the bodies and mortal remains of the air warriors. This was a Herculean task and the route was not at all a smooth one. Going up and down those hills would make one give up, but then we were there for a mission. To be honest, we and the Army were the only ones carrying most of the load as for some reasons the personnel sent by the IAF were sadly on the older side,” Tamut said.


The search and rescue team camping near the crash site of the AN-32 aircraft in Arunachal Pradesh
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Taka Tamut (left) along with another member of the search and rescue team in Arunachal Pradesh
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I guess my participation in the operation was worth it, said Taka Tamut after the rescue operation ended on June 29
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“The process of recovering the bodies concluded by June 14 and the same was reported to the IAF and local administration but the weather did not help us. It actually started to get worse by the 15,” he said.

Finally, on June 18, a sortie was made by the IAF in which they dropped some ration and also took some of the rescuers from the site. These people had to be taken because there was no place in the tents.

Finally on June 19 -- after 17 days of the crash -- the IAF chopper took away six bodies from the camp site. The next day, they took the mortal remains of seven others.

Tamut said the days between June 12 and 17 were the worst that they had to face as there was very less food and the weather was at its worst.

“There were days when we had to survive on water and biscuits, had a hard time sleeping on the tents which was not sufficient for all the members,” he said, adding: “Though the bodies of the air warriors were airlifted, we were left behind and that is from when our waiting period started.”

Weather conditions got worse and heavy rainfall continued to batter them for several days. “Not complaining but neither I nor were the IAF personnel prepared for this. But having said that and after going through all such days of hardship, I guess my participation in the operation was worth it,” Tamut added.


One of the members of the search and rescue team waiting to be airlifted near the crash site of the ill-fated AN-32 aircraft in Arunachal Pradesh
 

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Breaking: External Fuel tank of the LCA Tejas aircraft of the Indian Air Force fell down in farm near Sulur air base in Tamil Nadu during a flight today. First such incident involving a #Tejas
 

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https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ht-to-india-next-may/articleshow/70033753.cms
AF to get Rafale fighter jets in September, flight to India next May
The fighters will be flown by Indian pilots in France for 1,500 hours as part of the testing process.
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New Delhi: India will get its first Rafale fighter jets in September this year with a ceremony being planned in France to officially hand over the cutting edge combat jets to the air force. The modern fighters — to be armed with the SCALP ground attack missiles that have a range well over 300 km — will be flown by Indian pilots in France for at least 1,500 hours as part of the testing and acceptance process.

The first batch of four combat jets is expected to be ferried to India by May n ..

Read more at:
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Breaking: External Fuel tank of the LCA Tejas aircraft of the Indian Air Force fell down in farm near Sulur air base in Tamil Nadu during a flight today. First such incident involving a #Tejas

Nothing new in the news & no one care because we india lost our pilot life in peace time more then in war , we lost more fighter planes . i dont want to give numbers and names .

What else you except when you have large numbers of outdated junk planes & you will not include new planes ,. IAF & GOVT should be thank to god it didnot fall on public
 

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