India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

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If we buyed irom dome. Natiion will be bankrupted.
These mbrl rocket and artillery are cheap as compared to iron dome missiles.
Best tactics against these artillery and mbrl fire are.
Use your air force to neutralize these threats and iaf is capable in these types of work.
Use counter artillery fire Indian army must order large number of atags in order to counter these threats
We already will have VEM Ajita SAM for that role.
 

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What is the quality of ASTRA (mod 1, because mod 2 is for the future)? what about the seeker? what about the data link?
I think JF17 is able to fire chinese BVR. But same question : wjhat about the quality of the differents components of these unknown missiles (and unknown don't ever means bull shit).
Seeing capacity and talent of boys in IT sector data link capability of astra missile will be far better than Chinese.
For seeker i am not so sure about it. If we build aam seaker with Israeli collaboration it would be definitely superior to chinese
Just don't give example of ins hanit this incident is 15 year old
 
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What is the quality of ASTRA (mod 1, because mod 2 is for the future)? what about the seeker? what about the data link?
I think JF17 is able to fire chinese BVR. But same question : wjhat about the quality of the differents components of these unknown missiles (and unknown don't ever means bull shit).
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Well jf blunder have some inbuilt problem , whenever it have pulled high g loads it requires much high maintenance time , it can't support bvr on all it's pylon it can at best support a pl 12 , 100 km range , astra is same class , also we have developed tvc in vlsrsam , sam version of astra , can be adopted in it
 

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Aman Ka Tanashah 2.0......🤪🤪
Only difference from Vajpayee's effort is we have reversed the order of events. Vajpayee Ji extended a hand of friendship, got Kargil in return. Now we have beaten them black and blue on LoC first, assimilated J & K completely next & only then agreed to ceasefire. Very much like a seasoned deal maker who will ask for 20 and settle for 15. Rather than conquering Red Fort in Delhi, Pakis now want to save PoJ & GB- it is an epic climb down. Aman on our terms- no one is talking about Musharraf's 4 point formula:

  1. Demilitarization or phased withdrawal of troops
  2. There will be no change of borders of Kashmir. However, people of Jammu & Kashmir will be allowed to move freely across the Line of Control.
  3. Self-governance without independence
  4. A joint supervision mechanism in Jammu and Kashmir involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir.

1, 3 & 4 is not happening- 2 may or may not happen. Pakistan has failed miserably in beating the dead horse of Kashmir in foreign capitals, besides its own financial situation is pretty precarious.
 

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Only difference from Vajpayee's effort is we have reversed the order of events. Vajpayee Ji extended a hand of friendship, got Kargil in return. Now we have beaten them black and blue on LoC first, assimilated J & K completely next & only then agreed to ceasefire. Aman on our terms- no one is talking about Musharraf's 4 point formula:

  1. Demilitarization or phased withdrawal of troops
  2. There will be no change of borders of Kashmir. However, people of Jammu & Kashmir will be allowed to move freely across the Line of Control.
  3. Self-governance without independence
  4. A joint supervision mechanism in Jammu and Kashmir involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir.

1, 3 & 4 is not happening- 2 may or may not happen. Pakistan has failed miserably in beating the dead horse of Kashmir in foreign capitals, besides its own financial situation is pretty precarious.
This is true, but i want to ask:-

1. Why give Pakis any breathing space?
2. Why join the anti-terror SCO drill with Pak/CCP

I understand that the "ceasefire" can potentially save precious life's of our people on the LOC
 

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Only difference from Vajpayee's effort is we have reversed the order of events. Vajpayee Ji extended a hand of friendship, got Kargil in return. Now we have beaten them black and blue on LoC first, assimilated J & K completely next & only then agreed to ceasefire. Very much like a seasoned deal maker who will ask for 20 and settle for 15. Rather than conquering Red Fort in Delhi, Pakis now want to save PoJ & GB- it is an epic climb down. Aman on our terms- no one is talking about Musharraf's 4 point formula:

  1. Demilitarization or phased withdrawal of troops
  2. There will be no change of borders of Kashmir. However, people of Jammu & Kashmir will be allowed to move freely across the Line of Control.
  3. Self-governance without independence
  4. A joint supervision mechanism in Jammu and Kashmir involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir.

1, 3 & 4 is not happening- 2 may or may not happen. Pakistan has failed miserably in beating the dead horse of Kashmir in foreign capitals, besides its own financial situation is pretty precarious.
Pakistan has lost Kashmir, permanently.
 

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This is true, but i want to ask:-

1. Why give Pakis any breathing space?
2. Why join the anti-terror SCO drill with Pak/CCP

I understand that the "ceasefire" can potentially save precious life's of our people on the LOC
Exactly , why we giving space ? Hold the neck until die . Suddenly why so much love for pak from GOI !

Lagta hai kuch hone wala hai becoz pak will never leave its evilness.
 

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Exactly , why we giving space ? Hold the neck until die . Suddenly why so much love for pak from GOI !

Lagta hai kuch hone wala hai becoz pak will never leave its evilness.
I want a sudden attack on our country from their army ,not terrorist , enacted by raw with zero army casualty and a few stone pelter should be used as cannon fodder , giving us a reason that to protect our people and economic interest and human rights of our country , we are forced to penetrate Pakistan , and do a strike , this time naval , sabko mauka milna chaiye , sink some warship as the attack was from government , and then ask bajwa that if he want peace than get his men under control and come back at table , they will be forced to spend much more on navy , another expense .

Just raise the cost as much as possible.
 

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Only difference from Vajpayee's effort is we have reversed the order of events. Vajpayee Ji extended a hand of friendship, got Kargil in return. Now we have beaten them black and blue on LoC first, assimilated J & K completely next & only then agreed to ceasefire. Very much like a seasoned deal maker who will ask for 20 and settle for 15. Rather than conquering Red Fort in Delhi, Pakis now want to save PoJ & GB- it is an epic climb down. Aman on our terms- no one is talking about Musharraf's 4 point formula:

  1. Demilitarization or phased withdrawal of troops
  2. There will be no change of borders of Kashmir. However, people of Jammu & Kashmir will be allowed to move freely across the Line of Control.
  3. Self-governance without independence
  4. A joint supervision mechanism in Jammu and Kashmir involving India, Pakistan and Kashmir.

1, 3 & 4 is not happening- 2 may or may not happen. Pakistan has failed miserably in beating the dead horse of Kashmir in foreign capitals, besides its own financial situation is pretty precarious.
Porkis are bit confused about their defeat in abrogation of article 370 and integration of j &k.
Porkis used to make their policy by considering j &k as an independent state .
But for now porkis besides asking for Kashmir are more focused upon article 370 and saving pok.
Integration of pok and baltistan with Pakistan state proves this. Both of these states have lost their autonomy and officially declared part of Pakistan
 

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I want a sudden attack on our country from their army ,not terrorist , enacted by raw with zero army casualty and a few stone pelter should be used as cannon fodder , giving us a reason that to protect our people and economic interest and human rights of our country , we are forced to penetrate Pakistan , and do a strike , this time naval , sabko mauka milna chaiye , sink some warship as the attack was from government , and then ask bajwa that if he want peace than get his men under control and come back at table , they will be forced to spend much more on navy , another expense .

Just raise the cost as much as possible.
Department of navy of Pakistan has got lowest budget.
Its is considered to be most useless arm of pakistani armed forces.
Due to it's fearful experience in 1971 . Their armed force still remember 1971 naval war and consider navy as useless. So they have very less hope from navy
But due to advent of China in Indian Ocean their naval hope is reviving. So they are gaining some strength.
 

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Department of navy of Pakistan has got lowest budget.
Its is considered to be most useless arm of pakistani armed forces.
Due to it's fearful experience in 1971 . Their armed force still remember 1971 naval war and consider navy as useless. So they have very less hope from navy
But due to advent of China in Indian Ocean their naval hope is reviving. So they are gaining some strength.
What if we break it again ,they will be forced to form a formidable force , which will cripple economy more , but delivery will commence after years but money will go now only , thus more economical pressure .
 

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1. Why give Pakis any breathing space?
For a nation already on ventilator- LoC ceasefire is like applying band-aid for heart attack. Besides peace on LoC ensures Paki terrorists are easy to pick off unaided by cover fire from PA. Once cross border infiltration stops even temporarily then we only have to drain the South Kashmir swamp.

Over last few years we have lost many many precious lives on our side of LoC- we have pretty much been at war stopping short of invading that nuclear cesspool. Time now to reinforce our vulnerable LoC posts with more armor or set up new posts, build more concrete shelters for LoC residents- prepare for the next round of hostilities.

2. Why join the anti-terror SCO drill with Pak/CCP
PA is a white elephant for that country- any effort by Pakis to keep it well fed must be encouraged. Have money for military parades/SCO drills but wants Corona vaccines as alms? Carry on Pakistan Bhikaristan!
 
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