India Pakistan conflict along LoC and counter terrorist operations

[Maharaj samudragupt]

Pakis were claiming that pns gazi has destroyed ins bramhputra during 1965 war.
Pakis even credited ins bramhputra destruction to pns gazi.
Large number of officers were awarded for fake destruction of ins bramhputra..
This propaganda is usual work of pakis

Dead officers?

 

[Ayushraj]

Dead officers?

Its a incident of 1965 war

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

I'll head over to padosi forum to see how they're coping with the T129 thingie

Don't they have the option to go for chinese heli or the south african one which is the copy of european tiger heli.

 

[sorcerer]

F—-(edited by mod) SCO mate.
Literally.
They are killing our soldiers. And we are doing Exercises with them.

Its nation to nation behavior which is totally different.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Iaf never feared f16 but their is tension over AMRAM missile in iaf over paf hand's.
For paf strategy to neutralize rafale is use to use large number of jf17 in 20-25 in number so few rafale would waste their aam misile in this wolfpack attack.
Then paf f16 would do job of taking down rafale

JF17 bunder will shit in pants before standing in front of Rafale. Rafale Spectra suit is no joke. JF bunder will not even know what hit them because it's Rafale who will see the first and shoot the first. Even F16 will fear to pitch itself against lAF Rafale. No matter what package number of aircrafts they come with they can't outclass rafale range and if 1-2 gets hit rest will run back for cover saving their arse . Remember they can detect Rafale but they can't lock the Rafale easily ( that's the biggest advantage of Rafales) also from Feb 27 incident it's clear they do shit scared of su 30's and F16 released AMRAAM from dmax and turned cold finally getting caught by Mig21
The concern IAF shows with AMRAAM is legit to corner PAF diplomatically so they don't have weapons parity and we chug the technology gap. If we get successful in thwarting enemies getting modern weapons that's a war won without going to war.

 

[Ayushraj]

JF17 bunder will shit in pants before standing in front of Rafale. Rafale Spectra suit is no joke. JF bunder will not even know what hit them because it's Rafale who will see the first and shoot the first. Even F16 will fear to pitch itself against lAF Rafale. No matter what package number of aircrafts they come with they can't outclass rafale range and if 1-2 gets hit rest will run back for cover saving their arse . Remember they can detect Rafale but they can't lock the Rafale easily ( that's the biggest advantage of Rafales) also from Feb 27 incident it's clear they do shit scared of su 30's and F16 released AMRAAM from dmax and turned cold finally getting caught by Mig21
The concern IAF shows with AMRAAM is legit to corner PAF diplomatically so they don't have weapons parity and we chug the technology gap. If we get successful in thwarting enemies getting modern weapons that's a war won without going to war.

That why they are fielding currently 150+ jf 17.
They are using it in large number and paf is ready to bear losses of few jf17 for an single rafale.
This is their current strategy.
Somewhat similar to 27 feb airstrikes

 

[Lonewolf]

That why they are fielding currently 150+ jf 17.
They are using it in large number and paf is ready to bear losses of few jf17 for an single rafale.
This is their current strategy.
Somewhat similar to 27 feb airstrikes

And then mighty tejas mk 1a and mk 2 joins in .

This strategy will fail in current time also as rafale won't head alone , it will have su 30 mki with it , armed with atleast astra , who will bring down jf 17 and let rafale enjoy f 16 , and this is the most raw planned scenario , iaf have muchuch better battle tactics , it can kill jf17 with tejas foc

 

[sorcerer]

That why they are fielding currently 150+ jf 17.
They are using it in large number and paf is ready to bear losses of few jf17 for an single rafale.
This is their current strategy.
Somewhat similar to 27 feb airstrikes

Same "strategy" china has..
overwhelm the equation, offensive and defensive infrastructure and plans using excessive numbers.
First wave from chinapak will always be these flying monkeys..second wave from chinapak will have the monkeys with skillset and objectives.
oh well!

 

[Gandaberunda]

That why they are fielding currently 150+ jf 17.
They are using it in large number and paf is ready to bear losses of few jf17 for an single rafale.
This is their current strategy.
Somewhat similar to 27 feb airstrikes

You do remember they can't buy any aircrafts other than failed design tailored bunder for poor PAF. Beggers ain't choosers Also IAF won't fly entire squadrons of Rafale in skirmish or battle. It's not street fight to surrender Rafale with numbers to get kill. It's package consisting of Rafale Tejas Su 30's some odd MIG 21s and ground SAM's
Rafale will be very much happy whacking these bunders ass at will with lying deep in it's package playing hide and seek with its spectra suite
Also in skirmish if one gets hit first the rest package will be dismantled automatically fearing they can also be mercilessly toasted and immediate orders will be to go cold save the ass.
Same when AMRAAM was fired on su30's IAF ordered all aircrafts to go cold but Mig21 was jammed didn't receive order chased F16 and got a kill. Rafale + Meteor = barbeque of PAF

 

[Lost user]

That why they are fielding currently 150+ jf 17.
They are using it in large number and paf is ready to bear losses of few jf17 for an single rafale.
This is their current strategy.
Somewhat similar to 27 feb airstrikes

Bro Chill.. With S-400 and XR-SAM we will declare no fly zone over whole of Pakistan..
RGV ki nayi movie: PAF - UDNA MANA HAIN..

 

[Gandaberunda]

Same "strategy" china has..
overwhelm the equation, offensive and defensive infrastructure and plans using excessive numbers.
First wave from chinapak will always be these flying monkeys..second wave from chinapak will have the monkeys with skillset and objectives.
oh well!

Chinese strategy doesn't work over Himalaya

 

[Ayushraj]

You do remember they can't buy any aircrafts other than failed design tailored bunder for poor PAF. Beggers ain't choosers Also IAF won't fly entire squadrons of Rafale in skirmish or battle. It's not street fight to surrender Rafale with numbers to get kill. It's package consisting of Rafale Tejas Su 30's some odd MIG 21s and ground SAM's
Rafale will be very much happy whacking these bunders ass at will with lying deep in it's package playing hide and seek with its spectra suite
Also in skirmish if one gets hit first the rest package will be dismantled automatically fearing they can also be mercilessly toasted and immediate orders will be to go cold save the ass.
Same when AMRAAM was fired on su30's IAF ordered all aircrafts to go cold but Mig21 was jammed didn't receive order chased F16 and got a kill. Rafale + Meteor = barbeque of PAF

Jf 17 is a cheap plane but it's maintaince cost is high.
Our planes like sukhoi 30,rafale, mig 29,mirage 2000 are hevy price fighter. Maintaince cost is also high.
So need field large number of cost effective tejas is order to counter this cheap jf 17 attacks

 

[prasadr14]

Chinese strategy doesn't work over Himalaya

few months back both porkies and chinkies were very confident that China can sustain a campaign against India across Himalayas.

Few months in the mountains, they seemed to have learnt their lesson.

Chinkies are not winning any war attacking us by crossing Himalayas.
It would literally be an Himalayan blunder.

 

[Rassil Krishnan]

And then mighty tejas mk 1a and mk 2 joins in .

This strategy will fail in current time also as rafale won't head alone , it will have su 30 mki with it , armed with atleast astra , who will bring down jf 17 and let rafale enjoy f 16 , and this is the most raw planned scenario , iaf have muchuch better battle tactics , it can kill jf17 with tejas foc

Actually if that strategy has to work,they have to strike sooner not later, because of paki budget and conditions,there will be a limit to how much fighters they can buy and maintain even if it is the most cheapest variant they can get a hold of in the market.in a decade the iaf will come of its sleep and our progress in the air will reflect our budget and gdp size,as in their overwhelm strategy will not work.this also assumes that all these j17s are fighting fit at the time of the operation.in a decade time there will be enough Tejas to deal with jf 17s leaving their best aircraft to be soloed by our best.tactical local no superiority gone.if they want to do something,they have to do it now because iaf is finally going to get its act together same as in army artillery division.

 

[sorcerer]

Secret India-Pakistan peace roadmap brokered by top UAE royals


Yet behind closed doors, the India-Pakistan cease-fire marked a milestone in secret talks brokered by the UAE that began months earlier, according to officials aware of the situation who asked not to be identified. The cease-fire, one said, is only the beginning of a larger roadmap to forge a lasting peace between the neighbours, both of which have nuclear weapons and spar regularly over a decades-old territory dispute.


The next step in the process, the official said, involves both sides reinstating envoys in New Delhi and Islamabad, who were pulled in 2019 after Pakistan protested India’s move to revoke seven decades of autonomy of Jammu and Kashmir. Then comes the hard part: Talks on resuming trade and a lasting resolution on Kashmir, the subject of three wars since India and Pakistan became independent from Britain in 1947.

Over the years, India and Pakistan have routinely made peace overtures only to have them quickly fall through, particularly as both sides frequently use the issue to stir up emotions around election time. Officials said expectations were low that the current detente would achieve much beyond the return of envoys and a resumption of trade through their Punjab land border.

But this process appears to be the most concerted effort in years, and comes as the Joe Biden administration is seeking wider peace talks on Afghanistan -- a place both countries for years have battled for influence. Prime Minister Narendra Modi wants to shore up growth and focus military resources on the border with China, while Pakistan’s leaders are also facing economic woes and looking to make a good impression with the U.S. and other powers.

Secret India-Pakistan peace roadmap brokered by top UAE royals | India News - Times of India

India News: About 24 hours after military chiefs from India and Pakistan surprised the world last month with a rare joint commitment to respect a 2003 ceasefire a

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Well!! The arabs should stop the jihadi funding for Kashmir to have peace in the interim for a lasting peace once India takes over the poK

 

[asaffronladoftherisingsun]

Lmao shanghai stock exchange full speed ahead...

 

[destructodisc]

When enemy overwhelms you with numbers can't we use the N011Ms and RBE2s to lock multiple targets at once and fire, this way one bird can take care of multiple? not sure how practical that it, this way astra and meteors will take care of that cheap shit "Ladaka taiyyara". Astra mk1 and mk2 will be more deadly on Tejas if we manage to have good data links.

 

[Gandaberunda]

Jf 17 is a cheap plane but it's maintaince cost is high.
Our planes like sukhoi 30,rafale, mig 29,mirage 2000 are hevy price fighter. Maintaince cost is also high.
So need field large number of cost effective tejas is order to counter this cheap jf 17 attacks

JF17 is not a threat even to Tejas (armed with Astra and derby) PAF still rely on F16 only and if murican show carrot of old F16 or block 70 porks will jump to acquire them in no time. They're serviving on last legs of F16 and building JF17 out of choice to maintain PAF inventory and numbers.
You do realise IAF yearning for single engine jets for Pak front /caps/ training missions since 250 Mig21s past their legacy. Our Tejas program got delayed beyond decades but we're finally started churning out in numbers ( albeit - orders placed production pending). Whatever Rafales we have now it's enough to bully porks till Tejas are built in numbers taking over.. Tejas is not only cost effective point defence fighter but it has qualitative edge over JF17 bunder. IAF will chug the technology gap more further with AMCA and MK2 in future. Also the import hungry IAF still dreaming of 114 Single engine MMRCA

 

[sorcerer]

Lmao shanghai stock exchange full speed ahead...

leasing jinnah to china..
well it rhymes though!

 

[sorcerer]

Security forces in Jammu and Kashmir strengthen bullet-proofing as steel bullets emerge again

Alarmed over recovery of steel piercing bullets at the Shopian encounter site where Jaish-e-Mohammed’s top commander Sajjad Afghani was killed, the security forces in Jammu & Kashmir have strengthened the bullet-proofing shield of their vehicles and bunkers with an extra layer of protection for blunting such penetrative fire.


Officials in the security establishment said the forces had recovered 36 rounds of armed steel-core bullets, which have the capacity to pierce the normal protective gears used by the troops, particularly in south Kashmir area.

Sensing the danger posed by such ammunition used by terrorists, the officials said now the vehicles, especially deployed in south Kashmir, and personnel moving for anti-terror operations are equipped with shields which have “an extra layer of protection for blunting such penetrative bullets”.

Armed forces strengthen security shield as steel bullets emerge again

Alarmed over recovery of steel piercing bullets at the Shopian encounter site where Jaish-e-Mohammed’s top commander Sajjad Afghani was killed, the security forces in Jammu & Kashmir have strengthened the bullet-proofing shield of their vehicles and bunkers with an extra layer of protectio

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well!! they need to do everything to stop the funding of paki terror training madrassas