India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[SanjeevM]

Chengdu Massacre that happened in Parallel to Tiananmen Massacre

#ChengduMassacre #TiananmenMassacre #FascistChina

 

[Bhadra]

THAAD missile defence system in Ladakh? , Did Fake Pakistan’s Intel report, spooked Chinese?​

As per Pakistani defense Anaslyts, India and the United States are in process of allowing US forces access to a base in Ladakh region of India under Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Understanding (LEMOA) possibly for deployment of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defence system in the region under US command. Analyst claims China was warned about it earlier in the year in an Intel report and the current standoff between Indian and Chinese troops near LAC in Aksai Chin and Ladakh region was due to India developing the required infrastructure for THAAD deployment in the area. China gets spooked whenever THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system is deployed by US forces in the region and has been complaining of recent deployment in South Korea which shares no land border with China. The claim by the Analyst looks fake and completely made up, but Indian agencies should investigate if Pakistan did send any such fake Intel report to Chinese about the possible deployment of THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system in the area to spook Chinese.

Website http://idrw.org/thaad-missile-defen...ans-intel-report-spooked-chinese/#more-228690 .

 

[Tridev123]

The nation is watching and waiting to know the outcome of the Lt. Gen level military dialogue between India and China. There can only be two outcomes.
1)China realises that there is a limit to pushing India and any undue pressure can
prove counter productive. The informal India - US alliance can turn formal with
the US being allowed access to Tibet from the Indian side. An formal military
alliance of India, US, Japan, S. Korea, Australia and even Vietnam may take
place and cannot be brushed aside easily by China. It will be a formidable block.
Another consequence of Chinese aggression will be a sharp down turn in trade
between India and China. Exports to India generate about US 50 billion dollars
trade surplus for China. The US and Europe are no longer willing to turn a blind
eye to record trade deficits with China. India has been a valuable destination for
Chinese exports and gaining foreign exchange. The first and greatest impact will
be felt by the Chinese smartphone makers. There is no alternative to the Indian
market for companies like Xaomi, Oppo, Oneplus, Vivo, Realme etc. There will be
a major economic loss for China.
2)China underestimates India and over estimates its strength. They refuse to pull
back and place unrealistic demands which India cannot meet. The chances of
things going out of hand leading to armed conflict go up exponentially. A
military conflict will not be a cake walk for the PLA as it mistakenly believes.
India will give such a bloody nose to the PLA that the Vietnam War where they were outsmarted and humiliated will seem like a picnic. The PLA is only high on
arrogance and totally not battle tested. They have not even fought local
militias in places like Africa because they do not like to send their soldiers on
UN peace keeping missions. Let alone fighting a regular professional army.
Their last major fighting experience was decades ago. Compared to the
Indian Army which has had continuous combat experience whether against
Pakistan or the terrorists in Kashmir. The PLA is a big GAS BAG which the
Indian Army will puncture. A paper dragon. I foresee a rout of the PLA and a
face saving cease fire for the Chinese mediated by the UN as the outcome.

 

[Nietzche_Z]

If you start with pussies why be afraid of being called one..

One nationality about two languages, mighty USSR funding communism, centralized economy, one-party rule, suppression of liberty and freedom, no dissensions. a country full of resources on one side and hundreds of regions, languages, such vast diversity, democracy, political freedom, lack of strategic resources ... floundering economy...

How can you compare such vast differences.. apples and oranges are different...

All these points that you have raised for china - such as centralized economy, one party rule, suppression of liberty and freedom, no dissension , country full of resources etc....and on the other hand - India - hundreds of regions, languages, vast diversity , democracy, political freedom , floundering economy etc ..what has changed from 1962 to 2020? all of these things are more or less valid today and are just excuses for rolling over. A defeatist mentality if ever there was one.

 

[Bhadra]

The nation is watching and waiting to know the outcome of the Lt. Gen level military dialogue between India and China. There can only be two outcomes.
1)China realises that there is a limit to pushing India and any undue pressure can
prove counter productive. The informal India - US alliance can turn formal with
the US being allowed access to Tibet from the Indian side. An formal military
alliance of India, US, Japan, S. Korea, Australia and even Vietnam may take
place and cannot be brushed aside easily by China. It will be a formidable block.
Another consequence of Chinese aggression will be a sharp down turn in trade
between India and China. Exports to India generate about US 50 billion dollars
trade surplus for China. The US and Europe are no longer willing to turn a blind
eye to record trade deficits with China. India has been a valuable destination for
Chinese exports and gaining foreign exchange. The first and greatest impact will
be felt by the Chinese smartphone makers. There is no alternative to the Indian
market for companies like Xaomi, Oppo, Oneplus, Vivo, Realme etc. There will be
a major economic loss for China.
2)China underestimates India and over estimates its strength. They refuse to pull
back and place unrealistic demands which India cannot meet. The chances of
things going out of hand leading to armed conflict go up exponentially. A
military conflict will not be a cake walk for the PLA as it mistakenly believes.
India will give such a bloody nose to the PLA that the Vietnam War where they
outsmarted and humiliated will seem like a picnic. The PLA is only high on
arrogance and totally not battle tested. They have not even fought local
militias in places like Africa because they do not like to send their soldiers on
UN peace keeping missions. Let alone fighting a regular professional army.
Their last major fighting experience was decades ago. Compared to the
Indian Army which has had continuous combat experience whether against
Pakistan or the terrorists in Kashmir. The PLA is a big GAS BAG which the
Indian Army will puncture. A paper dragon. I foresee a rout of the PLA and a
face saving cease fire for the Chinese mediated by the UN as the outcome.

They are saying it has not started as yet..... Seems Chinese have not turned up...

 

[Kumata]

THAAD missile defence system in Ladakh? , Did Fake Pakistan’s Intel report, spooked Chinese?​

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As per Pakistani defense Anaslyts, India and the United States are in process of allowing US forces access to a base in Ladakh region of India under Logistic Exchange Memorandum of Understanding (LEMOA) possibly for deployment of Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) missile defence system in the region under US command. Analyst claims China was warned about it earlier in the year in an Intel report and the current standoff between Indian and Chinese troops near LAC in Aksai Chin and Ladakh region was due to India developing the required infrastructure for THAAD deployment in the area. China gets spooked whenever THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system is deployed by US forces in the region and has been complaining of recent deployment in South Korea which shares no land border with China. The claim by the Analyst looks fake and completely made up, but Indian agencies should investigate if Pakistan did send any such fake Intel report to Chinese about the possible deployment of THAAD anti-ballistic missile defense system in the area to spook Chinese.

Website http://idrw.org/thaad-missile-defen...ans-intel-report-spooked-chinese/#more-228690 .

porkis and their intelligrnce..

 

[Kumata]

They are saying it has not started as yet..... Seems Chinese have not turned up...

perhaps took a leaf out of ganguly-waugh incident and trying to play mind games. LOL

 

[Tridev123]

They are saying it has not started as yet..... Seems Chinese have not turned up...

To me it looks like they want a royal fu**g from the Indian Army. They tried to f**k with the Russians (Soviet Union) decades back and were very badly raped. I believe they lost tens of thousands of men in Soviet rocket artillery bombardment. After that experience they sucked up to the US for support. They never dared to mess with the Russians again.
India should give them an experience they should not forget for decades. Only then peace will reign on the borders.

 

[Waanar]

Talks failed?

OSINT saying talks failed.

 

[fire starter]

As expected.

 

[prasadr14]

Talks failing is good,

means India is sticking to it's position.
I want this to extend to winter, I guess the real fun would start then.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

To me it looks like they want a royal fu**g from the Indian Army. They tried to f**k with the Russians (Soviet Union) decades back and were very badly raped. I believe they lost tens of thousands of men in Soviet rocket artillery bombardment. After that experience they sucked up to the US for support. They never dared to mess with the Russians again.
India should give them an experience they should not forget for decades. Only then peace will reign on the borders.

BM-21 grad set chinese ass on fire.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

India’s Appeasement Policy Toward China Unravels | by Brahma Chellaney - Project Syndicate

Brahma Chellaney criticizes the Prime Minister Narendra Modi for his stubborn strategic naiveté.

www.project-syndicate.org

Brahma Chellaney Article. Good Read. Though he us a Hawk on China.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

porkis and their intelligrnce..

They also say in live TV that India has been contained by China in Indian Ocean just by building three ports around India.

And they also say in live TV that India was born by cutting out Pakistan.

Pakistani public is illiterate and radicalized. So, you can say or make demand of anything.


Lol!!! I have also seen a discussion about India overtaking Britain's economy & India becoming largest economy by 2050, they say that "when Pak will become the largest economy?"

Bhai kaun si ganja phook ke yeh log baith te hai TV pe keya jane.

 

[mokoman]

It's an excuse given by previous government.
Roads and Bridges can be pre detonated incase of Chinese ingress into our borders.

This is a double edged sword. Since population centres are far away it takes time to shift manpower and logistics.
If a few strategic roads and Bridges are Captured by us In Tibet then the whole Tibetan plateau will slip out of China's Hand.

Was'nt this the reason they claimed Aksia chin , only road connecting xinjiang and tibet ran through there. And we lost that , and since then always been on backfoot .

I rather we hold position and bide our time. Which is what our gov / military is doing and is the right choice.

 

[SRao]

Talks failing is good,

means India is sticking to it's position.
I want this to extend to winter, I guess the real fun would start then.

Is the weather different on the east of F4 compared to the west?

 

[Suryavanshi]

Just In case the war broke out how are we supposed to reach this point.

Spoiler

Its 200km minimum in a straight path Full of mountain and rugged terrain. Armour can't push too far inside because we won't be able to establish logistics that far inside. How are soldiers supposed to reach the Point and hold it.
Also river lakes and canyons will act as a natural obstacle for mechanized forces, on foot seems to be the most reliable option

Spoiler

 

[prasadr14]

Is the weather different on the east of F4 compared to the west?

Not weather, terrain is different,
meaning, supplying would be very difficult

 

[Kumata]

so knowledgable fellas and expert what now that talks have expectedly failed... again fists and bloody nose or modi and whinny the pooh talk and get their commanders going....

 

[mokoman]

so knowledgable fellas and expert what now that talks have expectedly failed... again fists and bloody nose or modi and whinny the pooh talk and get their commanders going....

Talks will climb up the chain of command until it reaches Modi vs Xi Jinping . Then there will be a fist fight between them at the lake . winner takes all .