India China LAC & International Border Discussions

[Gautam Sarkar]

Global Times has views on Indian media to India foriegn policy but was silent on Tiananmen Square protests anniversary on 4th June


Germany’s Kiel Institute puts #Chinese lending to developing countries at $520 billion. All told, its outstanding #debt claims amount to $5.5 trillion .
Money that could never return as the global economy cracks under pressure from #COVIDー19 .

 

[akhil mehta]

 

[IndianHawk]

the chinese are relying on the t34 doctrine or sherman doctrine of producing a lot of ok equipment to win.
i cant say this is the best or worst strategy but it is definetly suited to tehm and that seems to be good enough for them.

they are counting on most of their equipment to work fine while some of them face issues due to mechanical reasons or crew ineptitude.

one thing i know they cant overwhelm india is on the subject of troops on the ground.

That strategy works in plaines where you can deploy massive equivalent for face to face battle. Like Soviets did against Germany .

It doesn't work in Himalayan frontier where it's even difficult to field a few tanks.

 

[IndianHawk]

Global Times has views on Indian media to India foriegn policy but was silent on Tiananmen Square protests anniversary on 4th June


Germany’s Kiel Institute puts #Chinese lending to developing countries at $520 billion. All told, its outstanding #debt claims amount to $5.5 trillion .
Money that could never return as the global economy cracks under pressure from #COVIDー19 .

This is just beginning. As USA starts sanctions on BRI projects soon there will be mass default on chinese program.

China is losing out in a big way. It's already out of 5g programs of Canada and UK .
Romania has cancelled plan for chinese nuke reactor.
India has launched electric mission to reduce imports.

These things will multiply in coming years.

There is also an inter parliamentary panel of multiple democratic countries taking shape to fight against china.

 

[IndianHawk]

These Chinese can't even fight a trade war with USA and are already rolling over. People expect those cowards to fight a real war . Lol.

China backs down on US flight restrictions after Trump retaliates - Times of India

US News: China has backed down on a ban on flights by US airlines after President Donald Trump's administration retaliated by threatening to block carriers fro

m.timesofindia.com

 

[Waanar]

How many of you believe that
After tomorrow meeting.... situation will be normal

Don't know what will happen if tomorrow's meeting goes well but it is bound to get more heated and chaotic if it breaks down. No matter how much we question our own Generals, they're usually cool and calm as ice but the Chinese officers.... Well... For a lack of better word, they irk me. It maybe the videos or maybe the history of authoritarian states but these guys seem to be used to having everything in control and when it gets out of hand, I've a feeling they'll flinch or freak out. They're volatile.

Most of their high rankers are there by nepotism as well, so it's just hard to judge owing to the fact that China hasn't fought any wars for a long time.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

Don't know what will happen if tomorrow's meeting goes well but it is bound to get more heated and chaotic if it breaks down. No matter how much we question our own Generals, they're usually cool and calm as ice but the Chinese officers.... Well... For a lack of better word, they irk me. It maybe the videos or maybe the history of authoritarian states but these guys seem to be used to having everything in control and when it gets out of hand, I've a feeling they'll flinch or freak out. They're volatile.

Most of their high rankers are there by nepotism as well, so it's just hard to judge owing to the fact that China hasn't fought any wars for a long time.

I believe nothing will come out of the meeting.. and there will be extended deployment of the armies of both countries along lac...Lets see

 

[IndianHawk]

Don't know what will happen if tomorrow's meeting goes well but it is bound to get more heated and chaotic if it breaks down. No matter how much we question our own Generals, they're usually cool and calm as ice but the Chinese officers.... Well... For a lack of better word, they irk me. It maybe the videos or maybe the history of authoritarian states but these guys seem to be used to having everything in control and when it gets out of hand, I've a feeling they'll flinch or freak out. They're volatile.

Most of their high rankers are there by nepotism as well, so it's just hard to judge owing to the fact that China hasn't fought any wars for a long time.

They have already changed their western Commander. They are rattled and have been caught unprepared. Now see them doing all kinds of excuses to get out of it.

 

[Shashank Nayak]

They have already changed their western Commander. They are rattled and have been caught unprepared. Now see them doing all kinds of excuses to get out of it.

Yes.. If China was serious about fighting they would not have changed the commander. Even if the new commander served in the same theater, he would still have to build a mental picture of the forces he commands, the capabilities of his subordinates and develop rapport. That takes time...

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Yes.. If China was serious about fighting they would not have changed the commander. Even if the new commander served in the same theater, he would still have to build a mental picture of the forces he commands, the capabilities of his subordinates and develop rapport. That takes time...

You guys are giving way too much respect by saying Commander!!!!

Its their party leaders and what not's. If you guys can go and check then you will probably see they do not have any military experience at all. Just giving speeches and singing songs of communism doesn't make one a good military CO.

 

[IndianHawk]

 

[IndianHawk]

Yes.. If China was serious about fighting they would not have changed the commander. Even if the new commander served in the same theater, he would still have to build a mental picture of the forces he commands, the capabilities of his subordinates and develop rapport. That takes time...

Changing commander in a tense situation is a sign of weakness.

For that commander it's a punishment and an insult.

Now the question is what are the Chinese punishing their commander for.

 

[Blue Water Navy]

Changing commander in a tense situation is a sign of weakness.

For that commander it's a punishment and an insult.

Now the question is what are the Chinese punishing their commander for.

Probably due to party and/or politics.

And I think PLA wasn't supposed make this big fuzz.

One thing is for sure they clearly didn't think that India will respond so harshly.

 

[AMCA]

14 Corps Commander Lieutenant Gen Harinder Singh will hold discussions with Maj Gen Liu Lin, who is the commander of South Xinjiang Military Region of Chinese People’s Liberation Army to address ongoing dispute along Line of Actual Control in Eastern Ladakh: Indian Army Sources


China is sending a division commander to hold talks with our corps commander.

 

[WARREN SS]

How There Is No Mountain Strikes Corps in there Western theater command But 2 Brigade

How Many Mountain Strikes corps PLA actually have To be battle ready
That are Actually Gone through acclimatization

 

[ezsasa]

On the bright side...

India’s diplomacy & strategic thinking has come a long way forward, signing a security agreement with another country on a matter that has implications on China while there is a border Standoff with China is a leap forward.

It means Indian establishment has finally shed its inhibitions of running parallel tracks of strategic diplomacy at the same time.

Keep in mind Dr.Jai Shankar has already indicated this in some of his speeches, and now it has been demonstrated.

Let’s just hope people are smart enough to elect future govts who can continue with this policy.

 

[Gshvar]

There are two thing

1) Bring Modi on table to talk to Xi, amid all the Covid19 fuzz so that India supports China and doesn't become more aggressive to Chinese economy.

2) To secure Chinese stand and secure water resources, these things China tried to do quietly but every one discovered it's action.

a) India can forget economy, because in India economy is measured in terms of property and PPP not GDP and standard of living. Indians can walk 1000km on foot for food and shelter, worse can't happen.

b) Most importantly, secure resources and rivers and all water bodies which has got Chinese bad eyes.

 

[mokoman]

On the bright side...

India’s diplomacy & strategic thinking has come a long way forward, signing a security agreement with another country on a matter that has implications on China while there is a border Standoff with China is a leap forward.

It means Indian establishment has finally shed its inhibitions of running parallel tracks of strategic diplomacy at the same time.

Keep in mind Dr.Jai Shankar has already indicated this in some of his speeches, and now it has been demonstrated.

Let’s just hope people are smart enough to elect future govts who can continue with this policy.

Jan 22 : 'Not time yet for Australia’s inclusion in Malabar naval games'

‘Not time yet for Australia’s inclusion in Malabar naval games’

Sources, however, say there has been no pressure from China to keep the country out

www.thehindu.com

Yesterday: 'India open to including Australia in Malabar naval exercise'

India open to including Australia in Malabar naval exercise

www.thehindu.com

Probably just a ploy on our part,but it will definitely rattle the Chinese.

 

[ezsasa]

Jan 22 : 'Not time yet for Australia’s inclusion in Malabar naval games'

‘Not time yet for Australia’s inclusion in Malabar naval games’

Sources, however, say there has been no pressure from China to keep the country out

www.thehindu.com

Yesterday: 'India open to including Australia in Malabar naval exercise'

India open to including Australia in Malabar naval exercise

www.thehindu.com

Probably just a ploy on our part,but it will definitely rattle the Chinese.

Malabar naval exercise is not a bench mark, on this issue. Could simply be a procedural at operational level. i am sure we will know about it at a later stage.

 

[Mikesingh]

I have been repeating these points here again and again about our number and short supply chain. Etc.

Now it's being repeated by American analysts.

Try convincing morons and self styled analysts like Lt Gen Panag and Ajai Shukla who are spokesmen of the Paki media. They claim that most of Ladakh has been lost to China and that the IA has been again caught unawares! Lol!

And needless to say, after reading the silly tweets, articles and TV debates of these whackos, the Paki media is going berserk popping champagne bottles at our 'predicament' and loss to their Chinese masters!! One is a Congi agent and the other is AAP. So you know why they are doing what they are doing! In their enthusiasm to vilify Modi, they're making a laughing stock of the IA and India by spreading false propaganda that the Pakis and Chinese want to hear. And they think it's the truth seeing that it's coming from ex Indian army officers, one retiring in the exalted rank of Lt General!